Proud2BAmurkin
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:21 PM
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Can Obama win Pennsylvania in a general election? |
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There's eastern Pennsylvania, always good for Democrats.
Then.......there's western Pennsylvania.
George HW Bush won it. Clinton and Gore won it. Kerry won by two points.
We need it.
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 PM
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1. Of course he can if he lays off the bullshit platitudes. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 PM
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2. No and he won't win Michigan either |
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He won't win Michigan after the Republicans attack him for not wanting their voices to be heard in the primaries. You thought shiftboat was bad? Yikes! What a political blunder.
But hey South Carolina went for him in the primary!
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 PM
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this is your 30th active thread.
Don't you ever get embarrassed?
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:26 PM
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5. Thoughts on PA in the general election? We need it. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:27 PM
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6. I'm ashamed you're supporting my candidate |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:27 PM
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:31 PM
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11. I have this crazy, naive optimism |
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that some people can change their behavior when it's repeatedly pointed out what assholes they're being.
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:33 PM
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14. depends on who's pointing it out |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:34 PM
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15. Dozens of people have pointed it out to you... |
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perhaps hundreds. Are you just waiting for the right person?
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:35 PM
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16. I've seen varied opinions publicly and privately |
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Thu Feb-07-08 12:10 AM
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it's quite obvious you don't give a shit that almost everybody here hates what you're doing.
LOOK AT ME!!! I STARTED A THREAD!!!!
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:42 PM
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21. Nice try MonkeyFunk ... |
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:pals:
Some people just live for the spotlight ... does the phrase 'attention-whore' remind you of anyone? We have more than a few that have taken up residence here.
If P2BA was serious about supporting Senator Clinton, he'd have toned it down long ago.
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:41 PM
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20. glad Hillary supporters are as fed up as everyone else with this person... |
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Wed Feb-06-08 11:50 PM
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29. most of us were fed up long ago |
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He's not doing a damned thing to help Clinton. If I wanted to HURT a candidate, I would behave the way this poster does.
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Thu Feb-07-08 12:02 AM
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:41 AM
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37. No need to be ashamed - every campaign has one |
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Just like we all have a brother or cousin that completely embarrasses us.
At least in this case, he's not actually related to you and you don't have to keep bailing him out of jail.
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:26 PM
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4. Oh Poop, when the choice is between him and an almost dead man? |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:29 PM
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When the R's have governed while the home prices tumbled, etc., the R's are srewed. get oout of the world of DU for a second, you creaton. The D nominee will win. I will support eithe. Few people have (a) an axe to grind, (b) a myopic campaign view, or (c) relationship issues like you do.
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:30 PM
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9. I just watched two terms of Bush. Don't know if I buy into "pragmatic" America |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:30 PM
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10. Well, both my parents are in central PA, near Penn State. |
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I grew up there. They will both vote Obama in the primary. They voted Bush twice (despite my lectures) and now realize they were wrong. They want someone who will make a difference.
That part of PA slants somewhat libertarian (not conservative Republican) and Obama has a very good chance in central/western PA.
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:31 PM
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12. I'm from there too and believe it slants somewhate "West Virginian" |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:35 PM
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17. So what does that mean? We can debate this if you want. n/t |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:38 PM
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18. Western PA has nothing in common with Oprah and the wealthier segments that support Obama |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:39 PM
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19. NO. Explan your West Virginia comment. |
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Because where I grew up is nothing like West Virginia.
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:52 PM
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25. conservative democrat or "reagan democrat," blue collar |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:55 PM
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27. Then I'd have to say those Reagan Democrats are coming home to Obama. |
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At least that's what I'm getting from my folks. They don't like Bill Clinton and they won't vote for Hillary.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:48 AM
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40. The blue-collar people of W PA hated and still resent reagan. He oversaw our economic holocaust |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:53 AM
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Bush is toast in Centre County, but I don't know if that means the area will go Dem. Even some of the Dems there are conservative.
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:33 PM
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:42 PM
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22. No way. That's hard-core beer country, not wine country. /nt |
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:46 PM
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23. Absolutely....Philadelphia & Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) are solid blue |
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areas, especially Philly....Walter Mondale won in Philadelphia in 1984, though he lost the state, Philly usually goes about 75-80% for the Democrat.. Here's county by county from PA. in 2004...Also, PA hasn't gone red since 1988... http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=15&ElectionID=11&OfficeID=1
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:53 PM
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26. Kerry only won by 2, Philly goes Democrat but the west is a toss up |
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Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 09:53 PM by Proud2BAmurkin
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:47 PM
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Wed Feb-06-08 09:56 PM
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28. Yes Penn. is going our way again (nt) |
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Thu Feb-07-08 12:00 AM
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30. I'm not so sure. Kerry barely won. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 12:01 AM
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31. Definetly - Hillary supporter here |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:40 AM
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It's Pennsyltucky where he'll have the problems.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:40 AM
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36. Yes, of course he can. What a silly question. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:43 AM
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38. I don't think you can reasonable expect anything but silly |
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and outrageous from merky.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:46 AM
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39. Eastern PA is the half that swings Republican |
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Philadelphia itself is reliably democratic, but those huge philly suburbs swing back and forth.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:53 AM
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42. The answer you are looking for is: YES n/t |
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