Does Michelle Obama really find it difficult to decide between Hillary Clinton and John McCain?

[comfycouch]

Let's leave aside the question of whether Obama or Clinton are the best choice for president.

Does Michelle Obama really have doubts as to whether she should back Clinton in an eventual matchup against McCain?

Does Michelle Obama genuinely believe that when it comes to the economy, Iraq, health care, Education, stem cell research, global warming, abortion rights, gay rights, etc; abstaining or voting for McCain will be the best move?

As you may have heard, when asked if she would support Hillary in a GE, Michelle said, "I have to think about that".

I'd vote for any Democrat before I cast my vote for Mr. 100-years-in-Iraq.

You, who are reading this, analyze these issues one by one and tell me what you think.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/2/4/124123/6787

[tyne]

1. Lie

How long will this lie live?

[rodeodance]

11. oh my-you can spell 3 letter words.

[MagsDem]

32. Goddamn dude, there is video of her saying it linked

... in the post.

[pnwmom]

46. YOU are the one trying to mislead. The video of Michelle is there at the link.

And I'm extremely disappointed in her answer.

I expect all of our candidates and their spouses not only to support the party's eventual nominee, but to campaign for him or her.

[DJ13]

2. In the midst of a campaign, would you ask Bill to support Obama if Hillary loses?

And if yes, do you think he would give the kind of answer you expect Michelle Obama to say?

[rodeodance]

12. Bill was asked and he responded yes

[comfycouch]

17. Obama goes negative. Blames Clinton's 8 years for Dem. loss of governors, senators and representativ

In what may be Obama's most direct and aggressive criticism of Bill Clinton's presidency yet, the Obama campaign dropped a new mailer just before Super Tuesday that blasts "the Clintons" for wreaking massive losses on the Democratic party throughout the 1990s.



http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/obama_directly_attacks_bills_p.php

[pnwmom]

45. Absolutely. I'd expect all the candidates and spouses to support the people's

chosen nominee.

And I'm shocked at Michelle's answer.

[silverweb]

3. That wasn't the question.

The question was whether she'd work to get Clinton elected -- not whether she'd support her over the reTHUG candidate.

Quit spreading lies.

[rodeodance]

6. no, you do not have it quite right yet.

[jlake]

7. it was "support" not "work" -- to me voting is support.

[Nailzberg]

4. Disingenuous post. She was asked about working to support Clinton.

Your argument assumes that by not working for Clinton, Michelle would be working for McCain.

I won't be working for Clinton, but I'll vote for the Dem nominee.

[rodeodance]

8. no no no--you did not get it quite right.

[Nailzberg]

19. Then tell me how I got it wrong.

She was asked if she would "work to support" Hillary. I could have written her a better answer, sure, but how does her answer suggest she prefers McCain?


And why should she work to support the other candidate? Is Elizabeth Edwards going to fly around the country and do rallies for Clinton? Kucinich's wife? Biden's family? She's not the politician, that's Barack's job.

[rodeodance]

22. but then talked about the tone--like she had to approve it first.

[comfycouch]

27. she's like, hmmm...let's see. 100 years in Iraq vs. Hillary's unpleasant tone

Tough choice there heh?

[CatnHat]

44. Support means just that

Support is not "working" for any candidate. I support Clinton, but I am not working for her. Politically, support means voting for a candidate. If Obama's wife has to "think about it" tells me that she either can't stand Clinton, like so many on this board, or made a great mistake politically. Why didn't this get air play, oh yeah, another pass for Obama.

I am sure Elizabeth Edwards, Kucinich's wife, Joe Biden's wife, and so on will "support" the democratic party no matter what.

[sfam]

21. Nailzberg got it perfectly right, as you all know...you just find happiness in...

furthing idiotic threads like this, as if spin here actually amounts to anything. My guess is it will not change the final outcome of anyone's vote.

Michelle NEVER said she would not vote for Hillary. The question was SPECIFICALLY about working for her, and in fact, if you had watched the interview, this came right after she said the whole thing had taken a toll on her family and that we shouldn't assume they'd ever do this again if Barack lost. She then followed this up by saying everyone would support the democratic nominee.

But feel free to create motivating fantasies like this. For the life of me though, I really don't get your satisfaction with creating false anger over something as petty as this.

[WCGreen]

29. She still should have said I will work for whoever is the Democratic

nominee is...

That shows me either she is not all that loyal to the democratic party or she is not as suave as people say she is...

Personally, I could care less, but

[rodeodance]

5. Her response was not a politically astute reponse--glad it is getting some attention!

[Uncle Sinister]

9. It's not a lie, roll the tape. she'd have to think about her "policy and tone" shame on her

[rodeodance]

13. obamababies are quick with claims and denouncements but not actual quotes

[RoadRage]

10. Yeah.. her husband has only been thrown under the bus by Bill & Hillary 100 times in

the past month.. I'd probably have to "think about it" as well. How many people would vote YES for their arch nemisis?

And, the politically correct answer to that question is of course "Yes, I'll vote for her".. so the fact that Michelle answered honestly actually makes me respect her a bit. And, she totes the Obama line of being honest instead of PC all of the time.

GOBAMA!

[mondo joe]

16. If they aren't adult enough to handle a primary campaign without storming off in a huff,

they aren't mature enough for my vote.

[VolcanoJen]

14. Welcome to your first night at DU!

You're quite the meme-spreader this evening. I admire enthusiasm, but this post completely mischaracterizes Michelle Obama's words.

There are over 300 comments at that now days-old TalkLeft post, and honestly, the OP is pretty thoroughly debunked therein.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. I'm glad we're all in agreement that we ALL should support the Democratic Nominee NO MATTER WHO

she or he is.

Cool! I'm glad everyone- Obama Supporters, Hillary supporters- are on the same page about that.

[Dogmudgeon]

18. Is Bill Clinton a racist?

Same thing -- NO.

And in each case, the quotes were deliberately edited and spun.

--p!

[comfycouch]

24. So let me see if I get it. Michelle would vote for her..but is too lazy to "work to support" her?

Define "working to support". Because I find no logic in voting for someone and being undecided regarding working "to support" her, whatever that phrase means.

[GoldieAZ49]

26. she would not campaign for her in the GE, same thing posters here have said

and I agree with Michelle

may all be a mute point if Hillary doesn't have enough money from her own supporters why would anyone supporting her competitor campaign for her?

[comfycouch]

20. Why would't she work for a candidate she would vote for?

that makes no sense. If you have the means to work for a candidate who you believe is by far the best choice, then why not work for her?

That's assuming, of course, that Michelle believes Hillary is much better than McCain.

[tyne]

25. Maybe she wants to

see her kids and work to get other dems elected, eh?

[DefenseLawyer]

23. Her comments are just spin;

what you would expect from any campaign to some degree when asked about an opponent. I won't hold it against her. However, if you think there aren't MILLIONS of average Americans who vote in the general election but aren't strongly political, who would have a hard time choosing Hillary over McCain, I've got a box of Michael Dukakis buttons I'll sell you. Cheap.

[GoldieAZ49]

28. you got that right, and McCain isn't talking about garnishing wages. add 100 mil ppl

[comfycouch]

30. He isn't talking about subsidizing health care for those who can't afford it either n/t

[GoldieAZ49]

33. not with mandates

[comfycouch]

36. Wait...are you talking about Barack or McCain?

[comfycouch]

37. Oh shit, you really ARE implying that McCain's health care plan is superior lmao

Wow. That's a first. You must be the only Democrat who believes John McCain's health care plan would work better than Hillary's.

[GoldieAZ49]

38. I don't think he has one

and I would buy an affordable health insurance plan, but I do not want a mandatory rate based on a % of my income taken out of my check. I will not vote for it. Nor will millions of other Americans, that you can take to the bank.

[comfycouch]

40. McCain has no health plan because that's exactly what he wishes to do: NOTHING

And if you think voters will prefer McCain's non-plan over Hillary's universal plan, you have issues. What Republican would beat a Democrat in the health care department?

[GoldieAZ49]

43. with Obama I don't have to concern myself about their plan or lack of one

[DefenseLawyer]

49. The people I'm talking about

are not choosing between competing health plans. They are choosing between a war hero and a woman they already think they don't like. Michael Dukakis had much better positions on nearly even issue than George Bush and he got beaten like a drum. He was great on the issues, but a terrible candidate. Democratic primary voters have a long losing history of failing to see the forest for the trees.

[GoldieAZ49]

50. Yes, and a Hillary candidacy will lead to another stunning defeat

for those that insist on repeating the same mistakes expecting different results. They don't see it or want to hear it now, and will not understand it after.

I can see McCain's ads now, show the hot spots and terrorist around the world, and Hillary's stumping with "I'm your girl" ...then cut to his record

It isn't going to be pretty, and it will not be a 49-51 loss either.

[MagsDem]

31. They care more about his political ambitions than the country

That has been clear to me for some time. Another reason I don't support him.

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. Isn't she something? This whole thing is about the Obama's, not the country.

Can you imagine how many talking heads would have exploded had Bill Clinton said that?! The MSM would STILL be talking about it. BUT, of course, the Obama's got another free ride. We wouldn't want to upset the "surge", now would we?:eyes:

[writes3000]

35. Good God, this is SO ridiculous

I do not think it is anything but HUMAN for Michelle Obama to want time to THINK before she would vote for Hillary. I would expect the same thing for Chelsea and Hillary's mother. These people do so much, give up so much, put themselves as targets for YEARS. And we expect them to automatically endorse their fiercest enemy anytime we ask.

I absolutely expect Michelle to support the Dem party whether Obama wins or he doesn't. I think she will vote for Hillary. But for her to ask for space to THINK before signing automatic allegiance to Hillary is real, honest and to be expected.

I guess it's too much to ask to allow our candidates' families to be human. Good God.

[TheDonkey]

42. You mean women aren't supposed to be mindless sheep???

and Michelle is allowed to actually THINK about who to vote for? even though I think she meant campaigning for Hillary the same applies even if she did say she had to think about voting for her.

[dkf]

39. You people are pissing me off with your SLANDER of

Michelle Obama.

Deliberately distorting her words to make her look bad...you should be ASHAMED of yourself, but instead you pat yourself on your backs happy that you are trying to make her look bad.

Damn what is wrong with you people.

[TheDonkey]

41. She's talking about campaigning "working to support" it ain't easy and she isn't obligated

by any stretch of the imagination. Hillbots give it a rest. This is really pathetic. I doubt Hillary would vote for Obama in the GE even though she'll just straight up lie about it.

[Orangepeel]

47. She did think about it. She thought about it for 2 seconds, then fixed her answer

by saying that everyone in the party (which includes her) would support the nominee. Her initial sentence wasn't graceful, but she took it back almost immediately.

[1776Forever]

48. Yes - Hell Yes - and so do I - Read on...........

What did you want to tear her down for? Being honest? Did she say anything racial? Did she say anything against Hillary's gender? No - Michelle was being honest! Shame on her right? Wrong!!!! Time for someone that says it like it is and not SPIN it for the media or their "party". I think Michelle was protecting her husband and herself by saying that she cannot be bought off! I personally think this is refreshing and I feel the same way about supporting Hillary and Bill! I used to support Bill for years and defend him but after the years went by and I saw the after effects of his policies (which Hillary says she was a part of) I don't know if I can support the NAFTA, CAFTA, Communications Bill of 1996 Act, and outsourcing to India that Bill and Hillary have supported either!!!!!!! Count me in Michelle!!!!!!!
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