Hillary supporters, you're sounding REALLY desperate.

[TheWraith]

The invective coming out of the Hillary backers at the moment, whether it's "He's scared to debate Hillary!" after previously having had SEVENTEEN debates, or "He's the Media Candidate!(TM)" after Clinton spent a year with the word "frontrunner" attached to her name in every newscast, is coming off as really kind of pathetic.

I realize I shouldn't give you folks advice, since this ridiculous crap is going to drive people over to Obama, but I will anyway. You'd sound a lot less delusional if you were capable of admitting that your candidate is in a bad position at the moment between the momentum and the lack of cash. You'd also do well not to argue that we should only be trying to win the states which Kerry and Gore won. That's not a winning strategy.

On the bright side, every minute that you keep throwing out smears, you're proving Obama more qualified for the general: by the time the convention rolls around, the Hillary supporters are already going to have used up all the slime campaigns that the Republicans would have brought out.

[JI7]

1. didn't Hillary agree not to debate on Fox News along with some others

a while back ?

[JTFrog]

17. Yes. But she would get free advertising and Rupert would cash in on debates. Pledge be damned. nt

[TornadoTN]

19. Shhhh...don't want to inject that little fact into this

She's desperate and running low on cash. Since Murdoch and Hillary are such good friends, he's coming to the rescue to make sure his favored candidate gets some free airtime with softball questions. After all, what better way to ensure at least 4 more years of GOP rule than to run Hillary in the general? Either way if she wins or loses, he wins.

[bvar22]

43. !

:rofl:

[niceypoo]

55. As always, dont bother doing 15 seconds worth of research...

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.asp

[rinsd]

44. They all skipped a debate earlier this year. The boycott of debates on Fox is a myth.

[billbuckhead]

2. They call this being overly concerned.

wink, wink,

[niceypoo]

3. He is running on slogans

Cant blame him

[Rockholm]

37. Obama is "All Slogan All Day."

[Bitwit1234]

4. All I have seen all day is flaming, sluring and swift boating of

Hillary Clinton. SHE GOT MORE POPULAR VOTE AND MORE DELEGATE VOTES why should SHE be desperate. I think the desperation is on the other side...the so called king is whining and pouting because they won't drop the super delegates and also give him Michigan and Florida....DESPERATION...WE KNOW WHO IS.

[loveangelc]

5. lol...

[TankLV]

6. AND she won in MASS in SPITE of the kennedys, etc.

0bama only won in the FEW SMALL states...

yet his delusional supporters are somehow conviced that he "won"...

delusional...

[Cha]

13. Sorry, but you're delusional just like

your desperate leaders, the clintons.

[rodeodance]

30. MASS was SWEET win for Hillary

[TankLV]

51. you prove my point perfectly...

[grannie4peace]

15. obama & Idaho

yesterday i got a call from the youngest of my two daughters who are living in Idaho. She had just been to her first caucus and hesitatingly asked who i wanted to vote for in november. when i said Obama she broke out in cheers and the highlights of the caucus night started to pour out of her with an energy that was infectious. she said they had only expected 400 people, but had to turn people away as over 1000 people showed up. she said they were of all sorts & overwhelmingly for Obama.I told her when i turned on the news & saw the results of the Idaho primary, I said " Thank you, my girls!" it is so wonderful to live to see your children be so filled with the ideals & dreams that you had when you were younger & still hold so dearly to even through all the crap of these last years.:hug: :grouphug: :headbang:

[Bongo Prophet]

24. That is a heartwarming story, grannie4peace! Passing the torch to younger gen.

My late dad did this for me as a kid in the 60's - he would tell me his thoughts and ask what I thought - it signaled respect, introspection and critical thinking. He also taught me to deal with those who disagree with respect, to listen and make cogent arguments. All of this contributed greatly to what I am today -like him, a humble truthseeker.

I know they will remember this all their lives.

[mwb970]

25. It's hard to imagine anyone getting that worked up over Hillary.

She has some good ideas, but Obama has all the "juice".

[rodeodance]

35. Wonder if Obama will court Sen. Craig??

[sniffa]

40. delusional

:rofl:

[Dogmudgeon]

7. Swift Boating? It's a Swift FLEET.

--p!

[Colobo]

9. We love you, Bitwit.

We really do. :)

[RaleighNCDUer]

12. Never mind that she is trending DOWN while he is trending UP.

Every state that she won, she won by less than expected. Every state the he won, he won by more than expected. To win by 5 points where two weeks ago she led by 25 points is, truely, still a win but it does not bode well for NEXT week.

She's peaked. She's broke. She's all but done.

[shadowknows69]

22. Weren't you leaving?

[sniffa]

41. Have you thought of making this its own thread?

I'd gladly recommend it. :thumbsup:

[Uncle Sinister]

8. you're right. the thoughtful, intelligent Obamaniacs here have convinced me to drink the kool-aid

TheWraith, I have yet to see an intelligent post out of you. The world waits.

[grantcart]

10. Florida and Michigan have rights

[thoughtcrime1984]

50. Their rights would be to accept Dean's proposal

to each hold a caucus. There would be legitimate campaigning, followed by legitimate voting with actual delegates awarded per the vote. If the delgates are seated according to the joke of a primary that each state had, that would be criminal.

[ruggerson]

11. Winning always does that to people I guess

[GalleryGod]

14. Hey Clintons here's a debate: Hillary Vs. Michelle !?!

She'd kick her cottage cheese,takes a village,bribe takin', 60 year old ass from one end of the stage to the other!:spank: :hurts: :spank:

[tishaLA]

26. :(

That post makes me sad.

[cali]

28. Another sexist ageist piece of crap post from you

"cottage cheese ass"? Fuck that shit.

[rodeodance]

34. yeah--how about Bill up against obama---What a lovely scene that would be. Big Dog all the way.

[bigtree]

16. I'm desperate because of Hillary's WIN on Super Tuesday???

okay

[rucky]

18. It's the same 5-10 people every time.

and there's the same number of rotten attention-getters who post the same kind of crap about Hillary.

Don't feed the animals.

[K Gardner]

20. You forgot the Obama is Hitler and Obama is a Cult posts !

[rodeodance]

29. the Sacramento Bee story was pretty revealing-of what is transpiring out there in the Obama camp.

[K Gardner]

31. I know ! All the tens of millions of us are being herded into PSYOPS CELLS nightly and having

our brain waves measured while our heads are filled with empty rhetoric !! We're now an entire nations of zombies and cultists!

Do you really believe this shit you spew on here?

[rodeodance]

32. I do see some-many-not all of the Obamacamp caught up in a "cult-like movement". The Bee story

and yes i did read it all--really was almost beyond belief. It's not like it was in the Nat. Inquirer.

[K Gardner]

39. Look, I agree the story was kinda creepy.. but don't you think if we looked hard

enough we'd find something creepy about some of the stuff Hill supporters are telling THEIR people? Obviously this was not something endorsed by Obama Camp.. it was some looney toon going off and doing her own thing. ALL CAMPAIGNS have looney toons ! But I wouldn't believe this crap, even about Hillary, based on one report like this. I'm just sayin, it takes all kinds and in a pool of millions of people.. take it with a grain, yanno?

[rodeodance]

42. Please don't look too hard-te he. yes, loonies is every campaign. And for

the most part I do not attribute the cult to the obamacamers--well, some of them yes I do.
Maybe for me the story hit a spot cause of this 'movement' that obama talks about a lot. He is not an outsider as he makes himself out to be. He brings on a lot of Savior/hero worship himself and there is sense that his followers just ride along on the wave.

best
rd

[K Gardner]

47. Best to you too, RD !! :-)

[Straight Shooter]

45. The word "cult" is the kiss of death.

Obama has been kissed by The New York Times and The Guardian. They don't want another megalomaniac in the White House who sways with rhetoric and blunders policy, another one claiming to be a "uniter." Gawd, what a red flag, claiming to be a uniter.

Howl all you want and struggle against the slipknot of the "cult" meme. It's out there.

[K Gardner]

46. LOL.. yes, its "out there" because Hillarove put it out there. People are sick of this crap and it

will backfire. All the underhanded crap she has done so far has backfired. This will be no different. People aren't as "stupid" as the Clintons think they are. Its a new age.. not 1992 and Lee Atwater anymore.

[Straight Shooter]

49. Slipknot. Keep struggling. n/t

[Mass]

21. I probably have most of those on ignore already - It is a worthy feature, believe me.

[TexasObserver]

52. Indeed, indeed. Sure cleans it up in a hurry, doesn't it?

[tishaLA]

23. That's because you're in a cult

like Jim Jones or Hitler

:sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

27. Hey get a new word--you are BORING

[rodeodance]

33. "every minute that you keep throwing out smears, you're proving {Hill}more qualified for the general

.....On the bright side, every minute that you keep throwing out smears, you're proving Obama more qualified for the general:...........


back atcha!

[Evergreen Emerald]

36. right. Of course had she refused to debate him, she would have been

vilified.

[BenDavid]

38. I guess if I were obama I would not want to debate HRC one on

one either. Reports and polling within two days after that debate showed that hrc had basically stopped obama's mo in california.

And the idea that we hrc supporters are proving obama is more qualified by smearing him, damn, if that is the case then even after his win in iowa you obama folk kept smearing hrc proving the case she was and still is the best candidate to be president...

[hill08]

48. those

seventeen debates were not ONE ON ONE debates, which makes a lot of difference. Obama will fold in one on one debate.

[HughMoran]

53. Pot

meet kettle. Utterly amazing.

[tandem5]

54. are we reading the same forum?????!?!?!?!