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Thu Feb-07-08 01:33 AM
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Obama wins 155 delegates in CA winning Oakland, San francisco, and Sacramento |
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Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 01:33 AM by usregimechange
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:34 AM
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1. That would be my home district! |
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Me and Barbara Lee! :headbang:
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:35 AM
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2. Obama suffered a fatal loss in California |
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Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 01:36 AM by billbuckhead
It proved he can''t win the election. If he's lucky he might get to be Vice president. Harold Ford would be a better choice.
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:38 AM
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:rofl:
You are joking right? I mean, you can't seriously believe that and have the mental capacity to type.
Really.
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billbuckhead
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:43 AM
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8. You have a Republican governor, a popular with Latino's Republican candidate |
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Deady combination against Obama. And then there are Asians who voted 75% for Hillary. This puts Hillary at at the top of the ticket.
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:44 AM
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9. California is solidly blue no matter what. |
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You haven't a clue about California voters, obviously.
Where do you live?
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:39 AM
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7. California is not representative of the entire U.S. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:31 AM
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23. It's like that map of the US |
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There's the east coast, largely New York City, and the west coast, largely Los Angeles, with nothing in between, no rest of the country. That's how the Clinton camp sees it. That's how they operate. That's why we don't ever get an effective majority.
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:44 AM
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10. Yah, I'm sure McCain would win California. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:45 AM
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11. What is the point of posts like this? nt |
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:48 AM
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14. Just pointing out Hillary won the two most important states by 10% |
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and Obama did very poorly with Hispanics, Asians and older white women. All targets for John McCain.
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Thu Feb-07-08 04:11 AM
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20. Two most important states? |
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Two biggest states is the term you would be looking for. And Obama canceled out Clinton's victory by carrying many smaller states, as it seems that after yesterday, they are basically tied for delegates. Anybody who thinks either candidate is screwed after yesterday is mistaken, but Obama is definitely looking good for the rest of February.
Neither candidate had a decisive victory yesterday.
And of course Hillary won New York by more than 10, it would be a complete embarassment if she did not. It is impressive that Obama carried so many small, predominantly white states by such significant margins.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:19 AM
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22. Exit polls suggest Obama puts California in play for the Republicans |
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Thu Feb-07-08 12:10 PM
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Exit polls = the holy grail of truth and correctness.
Gimme a break.
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Thu Feb-07-08 09:18 AM
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25. That's only because of proportional delegates |
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If it were winner take all (like the general) - Obama would be going on vacation. My aunt in CA (who loves Obama) says McCain has a real shot if Obama is the candidate.
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:36 AM
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Although there are still 35 delegates unaccounted for (not including the 71 super delegates)
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:36 AM
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4. Here are the actual numbers |
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370 pledged delegates, 71 unpledged Candidate Vote % Delegates Hillary Rodham Clinton 2,107,758 51.9% 195 Barack Obama 1,717,681 42.3 155 John Edwards 168,866 4.2 0 Dennis J. Kucinich 20,051 0.5 0 Bill Richardson 16,764 0.4 0 Joseph R. Biden Jr. 15,318 0.4 0 Christopher J. Dodd 6,669 0.2 0 Mike Gravel 6,606 0.2 0 99% reporting | Updated 5:23 PM ET
Overall if you look at it honestly, they are essentially tied in the delegate race.
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Thu Feb-07-08 12:15 PM
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28. you're in need of Lasik |
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:36 AM
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5. Cool he won Sacramento too, hadn't heard that. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:46 AM
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12. Wow. That is a devastating blow. Yesterday his camp was claiming they would get only 30 delegates |
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less than Hillary. YIKES!
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:47 AM
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13. Wasn't Senator Obama supposed to win 170 delegates? |
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Thu Feb-07-08 01:49 AM
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15. perhaps more significantly... |
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... it looks like the Dem primary turnout was double that of the Republicans. 4 million to 2 million. Nice!
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Thu Feb-07-08 02:01 AM
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16. The map plays just as my husband said it would. Obama in some cities... |
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sure that's a given. But when he got out into the vast farm & ranch lands of California, he wouldn't carry them. The Redwood Counties would go, Marin, Humboldt, San Luis Obispo further south, etc. But he didn't even carry Napa, Solano, Contra Costa, Los Angeles :shrug:
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Thu Feb-07-08 02:42 AM
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17. There was a massive screw up where decline to state voters |
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tried to vote the Democratic ballot as they are allowed to do in our primary.
This year, a massive number of voters changed their reg to decline to state or independent in protest.
Those votes were suppressed.
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Thu Feb-07-08 02:58 AM
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19. Did those voters not suppress themselves? Matters as important as getting rethugs... |
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the hell out office should imo transcend 'protest' votes especially as they may, instead, become un-votes as you've mentioned. California is a vast state, it took years to get rid of Richard Pombo (Doolittle is still around as are a host of other neo-nutz) and I'm sure he's stalking about somewhere with his brand of 'democracy' by default...
Protests are noble endeavors many are unable to take the time off of work to attend in this economy. We cannot afford to not be counted protest or no
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Thu Feb-07-08 11:59 AM
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26. No exactly. Indys are allowed to choose either primary and vote |
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in it. The ballots in question are from Indys who chose to vote in the Democratic primary.
This morning I heard on the news that in Los Angeles Country, there is an attempt being made to find and count votes that may have been disallowed on those ballots. It's a mess down there.
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Thu Feb-07-08 02:50 AM
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18. He was down 30 points in California last month |
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I think its clear the half a million early votes won the state for her. I bet those early voters were pissed they didn't wait to see and hear him.
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Thu Feb-07-08 08:45 AM
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California voters typically do not get to 'see and hear' any candidate outside of TV or radio. The state is vast and the candidates don't spend much time there. So the early voters had seen all the candidates in the only form they ever would have. Los Angeles has more people than many states. No up close and personal like in Iowa or NH, ever. Big rallies, even lots of them, don't reach that many people. In California, if they have to see you live to get it, forget it. It is never going to happen.
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Thu Feb-07-08 04:14 AM
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21. Barack was behind 35 points last month - He closed the gap nicely & picked up some tasty delegates. |
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Plus he won my home town where I've been working hard - San Francisco!!!
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