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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:35 AM
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Hillary's $118 Million War Chest
http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_08+P00003392

That's the amount the FEC has recorded for her total receipts so far in this campaign, $118,301,658.00. Of that, $10 million was transferred from her Senate account, which is now $9,739,292 IN DEBT.

http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/

Does anybody remember the outrage when Howard Dean had gone through $40 million? I realize we've gone through the huge expenditure of Super Tuesday as well, but criminy that's a lot of money.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:36 AM
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1. and now she is broke?
:wtf:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:36 AM
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2. um Obama has spent just as much, if not more
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:39 AM
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4. Obama money is good. Hillary money is evil.
I think that Obama money is blessed by the Dalai Lama, the Pope, and Tom Cruise.

But I could be wrong.

--p!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:40 AM
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6. No, it's just blessed by me
It's what I do in my spare time, when I'm not kicking Hillarites in the ass.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:39 AM
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5. He spent $85 mil
and has at least $20 mil on hand. And his Senate account isn't $10 mil in debt either.

http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:41 AM
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7. it just seems incredibly contradictory to complain about Clinton's money and then have 500 posts
about how Obama is raising 5 times what she is raising.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:47 AM
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14. I'm complaining about her being BROKE
Even though she raised significantly more money than him, and has her Senate account $10 million in debt, she's still broke. I suspect you know the purpose of the complaint. Why do you play stupid? You know I know you aren't stupid.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:02 AM
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19. His money is coming from the grass roots in small amounts, he isn't
writing himself million dollar loans in contradiction to the spirit of campaign finance reform.
She may have thought she made a good investment, but it hurts her in the end.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:11 AM
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20. She's been collecting for over 2 years
She came to Oregon on a fundraiser in 2006 and people were furious because we had a Senate and Governor's election to fund. In 2004, Dean had raised the $40 million and that was considered an unbelievable amount of money, never been done before. So for her to have spent it all and be going into debt, is just outrageous. It's amazing Obama has been able to launch an effective campaign against her at all. I don't think most people truly understand what he's been up against.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:19 AM
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21. So true. I shudder the thought but tonight
Frank Luntz(pollster) was noted as saying Obama is the real deal. I knew this but was floored to here that repug say it on air.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:25 AM
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24. Seems everyone says that
I read that comment all the time. The worst most anyone says is they want him to have some more experience. My cousin has a mutual friend of the Obama's in Hyde Park and says she says the same thing, they are exactly who they present themselves to be.

Who could look at this picture and not know this is what we need in the White House!

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:38 AM
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33. they look like highschool sweethearts. I know they met later in life but thats a warm fuzzzy picture
thankyou.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:21 AM
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22. Msnbc says the blame for the overspending is being put on campaign
manager Doyle.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23037431/

Clinton faced a serious cash crunch going into Tuesday's multi-state vote due to overspending in Iowa, a source within the campaign told NBC News. Staffers blamed campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle, who was among those working for free, the source said.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:33 AM
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28. Joe Trippi got the blame in 2004
Funny he seemed to work for John Edwards, on a very meager budget this time around, and not bankrupt him. The Clintons never seem to take responsibility for anything.

I wonder if it's time for a where does the buck stop with the Clintons post.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:21 AM
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23. The bulk of his dough is coming in big checks
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:27 AM
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25. If that's true, why are her donors maxed out and his aren't?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:32 AM
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27. Don't come here with crap like that. Here 's the breakdown,
On the other end of the donating spectrum, Obama raised a remarkable 47% of his individual contributions in the fourth quarter from donors who gave unitemized contributions of $200 or less. This is a substantial increase from the 28% figure he showed for the first three quarters of 2007. By way of contrast, Clinton raised only 15% of her individual contributions in the fourth quarter money from donors who gave unitemized contributions of $200 or less. While both candidates depended heavily on "bundlers" to collect large contributions in 2007 (see "Fundraising Central" report here), Obama's success with small donors has opened a new path to help fuel his campaign.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/1/173227/9625

Candidate Total Primary Receipts Indiv. Contribs % From Large Contribs ($1,000 or more) % From Max+ Donors ($2,300 or more) % From Small Contribs ($200 or less) Cash on Hand Debts Owed

Obama 99.6 (76.1) 97.2 (74.7) 54% (54%) 33% (38%) 32% (28%) 14.4 (31.9) 0.8



Clinton 98.7 (74.7) 84.0 (61.6) 75% (78%) 50% (52%) 14% (13%) 18.3 (34.6) 5.0


You never impress with crap.

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:43 AM
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11. That kind of misses the bigger point, he raised well over 6 million
today. She is trying for 3 in three days. The point being she can't afford to spend like she has and she didn't get the delegate counts needed to slide into home plate easily. Her strategy matches this though. Win big in Iowa(not) Nh(she won but not big) south Carolina(not, but told everyone she was never going to win there anyway)And the other states she won but only one was greater than 70 percent of the vote and most of the others were with a significantly lower vote % giving her way fewer delegates than the game plan had needed. In short she really underestimated the strength of the opposition, and fund raising ability of same. Now she is sitting like Giuliani.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:50 AM
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15. They didn't think of a plan B
like the bushites didn't have one for Iraq. Always good to have a backup plan.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:35 AM
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32. the point is not who spent what but who ran out
Obama made the expenditure but its coming in at a rate of $ 4,000 per minute
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:37 AM
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3. She over spent in Iowa and this is what she is touting as experience?
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:42 AM
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9. re
I think this Hilary being broke thing might be overdone. I'm not buying it anymore. Seems like her "loan" was just a ploy to generate sympathy donations.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:47 AM
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13. She raised 13.5 mil last month as compared to Obama 32 mil and
tonight another 6mil. I don't buy your argument, but i don't think she is beyond hope either. Bill said this

"And let’s not forget this quote from Bill Clinton (also posted by Ben Smith): "They say you couldn’t stop me from spending all the money I’ve saved over the last five years on Hillary’s campaign if I wanted to, even though it would clearly violate the spirit of campaign finance reform." from politico Ben Smith.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:28 AM
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26. Seh actually raised $8.5 mil; $5 mil of that is hers
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:33 AM
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29. No that has already been clarified by others. Its 13.5 last month and it does not include the loan.
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 02:36 AM by caligirl
Obama, riding a wave of fundraising both from large donors and small Internet contributors, raised a stunning $32 million in January. Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe said last week the Clinton campaign raised only $13.5 million for the month. The $5 million loan was in addition to that amount, Wolfson said.

Link at post 22. research research research.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:35 AM
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31. Does it include the $10 million Senate transfer?
That has left her Senate $9+ mil in debt? I bet it does.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:39 AM
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34. Does the 13.5 include the transfer? Good thinking. I don't know. Research.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:47 AM
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35. Looks like it happened end of Sept 07 here is a comment about it
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 02:52 AM by caligirl
Its SPENT too. Looks like it went into Iowa and NH. someone had more than a 400 dollar haircut they were financing . She was running through money quickly even then. Three months before Iowa. so they really were counting on California and Iowa and she didn't get the turnout needed. I'd say this was a bad investment. She is in serious trouble without taking self financing and the finance reform implications will, and rightly so, be ripe for target.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/clinton_to_drudge_connection_l.php
Terry McAullife on the 10am MSNBC News show, when questioned regarding federal lobbyists, the pac money, and the 10 million dollars the Clinton campaign transferred over from her previous NY Senate campaign funds, stated quite pointedly “…but we did transfer 10 million, so I will take the 80 million, Tameron, up to 90. Uh, I wasn’t including that in the 80’s, so if you want to use That number, we’re actually at 90 million.” (he was looking rather uncomfortable with what seemed a forced smile at that point IMO) Terry also quite noticeably did NOT say that the 10 million dollar transfer from Hillary’s state senate campaign funds was Not included in the 27 million 3rd quarter totals, only that they hadn’t yet been included in the Overall total yet.

In my perception, that would fully explain how Hillary all of a sudden Jumped from an expected 3rd quarter total of around 17 million a week or so ago to the reported 27 million of today… less of course the 5 million which had to be transferred to her General election fund. Would that mean that almost 5 million of her 22 million report came from her senate race funds? By my calculations, that would put her back down at her 17 million estimate.

Very Interesting don’t you think!

Sincerely,
Pastor Daniel

Posted by Pastor Daniel | October 2, 2007 5:05 PM
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:53 AM
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36. Oh okay
Well that's good I guess because if she'd only raised $3 mil last month, that would be pretty scary.
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EdwardWilbur Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:43 AM
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10. How much did Senator Clinton spend in Iowa?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:57 AM
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17. I was referring to this article
"Clinton faced a serious cash crunch going into Tuesday's multi-state vote due to overspending in Iowa, a source within the campaign told NBC News. Staffers blamed campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle, who was among those working for free, the source said."http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23037431/
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EdwardWilbur Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:41 AM
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8. Does that mean Senator Clinton has 100 million left to spend?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:46 AM
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12. She's BROKE n/t
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EdwardWilbur Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:52 AM
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16. Isn't her husband paying 20 million dollars to fund the campaign now?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:00 AM
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18. despite his pexpressed knowledge of the imporatnce of the intenet of
campaign finance reform he said he would spend money he has saved over the past five years.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:34 AM
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30. Hillary is the Mittens of the Democratic Party
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:53 AM
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37. exactly.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:34 AM
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38. i think it was on msnbc
that I heard that she's paying Mark Penn 5 million.


Yiiikes.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:07 PM
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39. Kick for reality n/t
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