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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:26 AM
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Clinton and Obama campaigns - start your SPIN-gines
it's looking more and more like the repubs will be going with McCain. Speculation is high that McCain's sidekick will be Huckabee.

Huckabee would bring in the fundies who are reluctant about voting for McCain. And you can bet with the huckster for a sidekick - there will be a lot of rhetoric about family values.

in the past, the family values blather is something the dems have failed to effectively counteract

the repubs have wrapped it up in a warm fuzzy blanket, it sounds good, looks good - but beyond that their actions speak differently.

Kerry mentioned it once or twice back in 2004 that I know of and Clinton touched on it briefly in one speech I saw on C-Span

and I keep bringing it up over and over again

IT'S NOT FAMILY VALUES - IT'S VALUING FAMILIES

I've even sent a few e-mails off to the campaigns - explaining what I mean by this, but I fear they were just put in some round file. If you work on Clinton or Obama's campaign and have some contacts up the 'food chain', and agree with this perhaps you would pass it along.

here's the premise:


reframe it as "VALUING FAMILIES"
show how the family value rhetoric is just that - rhetoric period. that for all the family value talk, nothing the repubs have done show any concern for the health of families, and tend to destroy families by favoring corporations and other big wigs. that all the blather about family values are just empty words. Words do not put food on the table, nor give people jobs, nor do they provide healthcare or education.

- the way to value families is to have a healthCARE system that puts people before profits. A healthCARE system which ensures the medications needed are available, affordable and safe

- the way to value families is to enact legislation that protects families from predatory lending practices and other financial schemes which puts their jobs and welfare at risk

- the way to value families is to have an education system which educates

- the way to value families is to have an emergency management system that is able to respond quickly and effectively. to help families in the most dire time of need (think katrina and the recent tornado outbreak)

- the way to value families is to have a veterans system which helps the the troops returning from war.

- the way to value families is to have a social security system the helps families with with their senior members

- the way to value families is to have a forward looking environmental policy to provide clean air, clean water, safe food for the current and future generation

- the way to value families is to encourage job creation here at home and not reward companies who ship jobs overseas.

- the way to value families is to have a foreign policy which focuses on peace and prosperity, not on war and destruction.

- the way to value families is to have a domestic policy that embraces all families.

- the way to value families is to have a policy that is open to science and research, not one that discourages or rewrites findings.

- the way to value families is to have a justice system based on justice not partisan politics.

- the way to value families is to respect and follow the Constitution of the United States - not by looking for loopholes or weasling around it through the use of executive priviledge or signing statements.

AMERICA VALUES FAMILIES

(too numerous to list, but after each of these points - list the legislation the repubs have defeated)




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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:37 AM
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1. That makes a lot more sense
To the Rethugs "family values" means demonizing sex and any family other than the hetero nuclear family. It means very narrowly defining the "proper" way of life and valuing only those who toe the line they draw. Life is sacred--while it's in the womb. After that it's nothing but a burden, particularly if it needs any form of "assistance".

I'm glad to K&R your post. :thumbsup:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:42 AM
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2. thank-you, and hoping there are some Clinton/Obama lurkers out there
and paying attention

because if it's a McHukster ticket the issues are going to be smothered by the warm fuzzy blanket of family values blather

McHukster Value pack:
More Wars
Less Jobs
and a bible
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:49 AM
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4. Obama is perfect for this.....
hell, they already say he speaks like a preacher.

Lakoff believes that Obama has the superior framing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-lakoff/what-counts-as-an-issue_b_84177.html
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:52 AM
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5. if you have any contacts
with his campaign, who can get this to his attention - please send it along

the democratic platform is one that values families, and the difference between rhetoric and reality needs to be emphasized

even if it's not a McHuckster ticket - the GOPers will smother us with the warm fuzzy family values blanket

this also applies for those running for senate/house seats - it's not what you SAY you are going to do, it's what you do
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:53 AM
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6. I probably won't be getting the value pack
I'll be in one of the camps. Though I don't know if they'll put me in the Gay Camp or the Atheist Camp.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 05:47 AM
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3. K&R Great point.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:35 AM
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7. I'm not one to grovel for recs
at the most I'll give a post a few kicks to stop it from falling into a black hole

however - I feel this is too important to be allowed a quiet death and buried in the archives

it only takes a moment to give this post a kick and rec - please set aside your Obama Clinton flamethrowers long enough to kick, rec or add your comments

and please if you have contacts with the campaigns who are in a position to move it up the food chain - please feel free to do so, or if you want to cut/paste/incorporate it into your blog - it's yours

I'm only interested in getting this message out into the internet tubes
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:08 AM
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8. this has also been cross-posted in GD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2828683

I'll let this one burn up amid the flame wars and let it's ashes be scattered into the archives
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 10:55 AM
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9. I would love to see the GOP convention use an old evangelical prayer meeting trick, with a twist.
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 10:55 AM by CorpGovActivist
1. Ask everyone to close their eyes.

2. No peeking.

3. Raise your hand if you have a loved one in your family who is part of the LGBT community.

4. Crop the frame to show only the hands, to hide the faces.

- Dave
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:08 PM
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10. other #3 questions
3. Raise your hand if you have a loved one in your family who has no health insurance

3. Raise your hand if you have a loved one in your family who has been denied health care by insurance company

3. Raise your hand if you have a loved one in your family who has lost job because it was shipped overseas

3. Raise your hand if you have a loved one in your family who has lost their home

3. Raise your hand if you have a loved one in your family who can't find a job because the economy sucks

3. Raise your hand if you have a loved one in your family who in Iraq or Afghanistan

feel free to add
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:27 PM
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11. kick
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