Signs of Desperation in Clinton Campaign

[boricua79]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/07/us/politics/07campaign.html?ex=1360040400&en=ab3a17e5c44c0ffc&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

I read this article and a few things jumped out.

"With no breakout winner in Tuesday’s Democratic primaries, Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama on Wednesday began fortifying for a drawn-out nomination fight, with Mrs. Clinton disclosing that she had lent her campaign $5 million while Mr. Obama raised $3 million online in a single day and rejected calls for more debates."

She's having to lend her campaign 5 million...and he's raising 3 in ONE DAY
She's asking for debates, and he's rejecting them (Because he knows debates is just free air time for her).

"Clinton advisers sounded especially grim on Wednesday about the upcoming contests, noting Mr. Obama’s advantage with black voters in Louisiana, Maryland and Virginia and with liberals and young voters in Washington State and Wisconsin. They were already looking ahead and budgeting for the March 4 primaries in Ohio and Texas, when nearly 400 delegates will be at stake."

SOUNDED ESPECIALLY GRIM... hmmmm....

"Afterward, one Clinton adviser explained the focus on March 4 this way: “There’s a chance we may not win a single primary or caucus in February, so we’re banking on Ohio and Texas."

CANDID ADMISSION, WOULDN'T YOU GUYS SAY?

"Some Clinton advisers also acknowledged fatigue among her donors, who have been ongoing targets of fund-raising solicitation since early 2006 when her Senate re-election race began."

FATIGUE AMONG DONORS? HMMMM....

Label me an anti-Hillary poster...but the article's analysis speaks for itself. Clinton's prospects do not look good...

[pdxmom]

1. I've been thinking about this a lot, and I think that there really isn't

desperation in the Clinton camp. I think they're playing a very shrewd game of lowering expectations. This is a lot of political manuevering and a set up for later spin. Just more of the game of politics.

[jakem]

12. you can only lower expectations so far-

before voters also have low expectations = lower fundraising, lower voter turnout-

[fasttense]

2. The media pundits said the same thing about McCain.

Now look at him.

[ClassWarrior]

3. Actually, it sounds like they're managing expectations.

They may be in better shape than any of us realizes.

NGU.

[NoPasaran]

4. Shhhhhh!

Never wisen up a chump.

[ClassWarrior]

7. So the voters are "chumps" to the Clinton camp?

~sigh~

NGU.

[NoPasaran]

22. No, just the overconfident Obots

[boricua79]

10. lowering expectations is all fine and dandy

but when you have to lend 5 million to your campaign, and the other is raising 3 in ONE DAY, that has NOTHING to do with expectations. That has to do with the health of your campaign.

You can't fool around with math.

Hillary's in trouble.

Whose the chump now.

[Coexist]

16. Hillary should, by no means, be broke

I am assuming her loan was to shore up what she already has because of the large media buys/staff moves she sees in the future.

Admitting financial troubles but you in the John McCain "Comeback Kid" role. Lower expectations, become the underdog, hit the bleeding hearts in their hearts - visions of her being steamrolled by the Obama "machine".

[boricua79]

18. or...

she's swung her strongest punches on Feb. 5th (as the article stated), and he's NECK and NECK with her.

now it's HIS turn to land some punches....we'll see if she'll be able to withstand them.

[russian33]

5. she raised 3mil yesterday...come down

there's no fatigue

[Evergreen Emerald]

6. how funny that the democratic board is hoping that her lack of funds

and his abundance of funds helps him win the white house. So much for campaign finance reform ideals.

[boricua79]

11. the day that the field is equal

we'll quit playing the game. Till then, let the money rain down on Obama!

[underpants]

13. I have the feeling that there isn't going to be any campaign finance reform this week

so since that is the field we are playing in you might as well accept it.

[Benhurst]

15. Yes, it makes one wonder if all the support from Democrats just a few years ago

for getting money out of the political process was little more than sour grapes over the Republicans having had the advantage at that time. I hope not. It's corrupting no matter who is on the receiving end.

[Mother Of Four]

8. Its the expectations game all over again...

I can't believe how blind our public is.

Link to another post I made right before ST when everyone was overexcited saying there was going to be an Obama blowout.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4412272&mesg_id=4412526


When you lower the bar so far to the ground people think you can't make it...then you manage to slide under it for another limbo the crowd goes crazy.

She is lowering expectations, so that ANY win will seem a huge victory.

Prediction...

For any win or close call will be "Omg...wow...I never expected this...what huge support...thank you so much for rallying behind me" and "WE WON!"

The Clinton campaign is desperate to get into another position like Bill was for the comeback kid, that's why she continuously plays at "Oh poor me!"

Trust me, I don't like the candidate AT ALL, however you have to take a healthy shot of salt when hearing anything her campaign has to say. Even if its what you want to hear.

I won't believe she's in trouble unless she actually suspends or ends her bid.

[NoBorders]

19. A very wise comment nt

[bigtree]

9. what is it you are trying to do here? it's a juvenile game.

I suspect it attracts the like-minded to join in. Despicable.

[BenDavid]

14. oh i get it....kerry borrows money in 04 and it's good and folks in

here kept saying what a good move that was....uh huh then hrc does the same and it's desperation, campaign melt down....etc etc..... if I Q in here by most of you obama people were measured in GERMS, you all would be sanitary....

[Inuca]

20. Just a couple minor differences

Kerry used his own money BEFORE a single vote was cast. Also, he was WAY BEHIND in the polls at the time, not the presumptive nominee for almost a year. Incidentally, I do not think that Clinton having to use her own money spells doom for her, but it is an interesting fact, that's all.

[thevoiceofreason]

21. So a Kerry comparison is now a good thing?

Just pick a side and stick to it.

[underpants]

17. The March thing is a mistake IMHO

First of all if they really do that (I read elsewhere that Hillary has some sort of plan in Va.) Obama has a head of steam and as the saying goes "nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd"

Second even without a month full of winning all over the country (Va MD DC La. Wash. Maine Wisc. Hawaii (O's)) Obama has shown that he can turn a whole state (Conn.) and can close just about any gap that he sets his attention on. He could possibly turn Ohio or Pa and then she is up the creek.

You hit with your biggest weapon available FIRST you don't hold it in reserve because you may never get to use it. I don't think waiting on March is the way to go.