kentuck
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:38 AM
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There seems to be a deep subconscious fear that Hillary will lose.. |
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this election? No need to call Obama supporters "cultists". People are tired, tired I say, of the old politics. Simple as that. They do not want a continuation of the Bush politics or the Clinton politics. They are looking for change. Whether Obama is that candidate or not, they certainly do not see those qualities in Hillary. It is unfortunate that she is a victim of her times.
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:43 AM
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1. Its exactly those types of posts |
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That are driving people away from Hillary. People are tired of the say anything to win mentality. Well maybe not the clinton supporters but a huge chunk of people are sick of it.
Theres lots of other reasons though not to vote for her besides her honesty deficit.
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:45 AM
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3. They can't comprehend how people could possibly support anyone other than Hillary. |
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They're just cannot understand it. I can't understand how "Democrats" support Hillary based on her recent track record, so there must be a real disconnect.
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:48 AM
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5. Michael Moore said it best last night on Larry King. |
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He really likes HRC, but he has a moral issue with voting for her based on her Iraq/Iran standing and voting record.
Then couple that with the dynastic approach some think should exist in politics... Well, the truth is that people are sick of the same - we need a new, fresh perspective on things. We want to be included in on the process and changes from the bottom up, and that's what Obama is offering that HRC hasn't.
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:57 AM
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9. He said he'd only have a problem voting for her in the primary, but would support her in the GE. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 11:24 AM
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12. Isn't that what we're discussing? That's what I commented on. |
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:53 AM
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As sure as you are that Obama will win the general, they are sure he wont. It's that simple.
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:56 AM
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8. I am not sure that Obama will win |
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But I am absolutely 100% certain that Hillary will not.
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:43 AM
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2. I sort of agree, and I think that Obama is the beneficiary of the |
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times...people want change, and figure he's the guy who will deliver. I think people are fooling themselves, but that's my opinion.
One thing to consider--the economy is just going to get worse...whether it gets bad enough in the next month or two to help Hilary, I dont know, because people (according to polls) tend to see her as more experienced and capable of righting that.
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:47 AM
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4. Fear is the mind-killer. |
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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
But, what or whom exactly is fear obliterating? Maybe this isn't so bad...?
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Thu Feb-07-08 10:50 AM
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Thu Feb-07-08 11:02 AM
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Major problem... a once in a life time chance for either of the candidates to be the FIRST.
First President of Color whoose supporters mandate that their candidate tries to change the way politics are played in our USA
First Female President of an ex impeached President ... sorry couldnt help myself
No ones going to give ... This MUST be won.
But will the superdelegates at the convention decide to subvert the efforts of the movement for change? I have a feeling the fix is already in.
I submit that Billary 08 will cajole or pigeon hole his former party member underlings to "follow your old leader". Loyalty to the party must trump the mandate for change. Besides new and fresh ideas are bad... The old ways are the best.
When that happens.... and it will. All bets will be off. Does anyone think that these newley registered and independent voters are card carrying "My democratic party right or wrong.. follow me" types? Sen Obama being a Party loyalist will make the plea to his followers to unite behind Billary... my guess is that few will follow.
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Thu Feb-07-08 11:20 AM
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11. Actually, I have a not-so-deep and conscious fear... |
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...that all this infighting may cost the Dems the white house.
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