Show of hands: How many here knew Hillary won New Mexico?

[robbedvoter]

I ask this because of the answers on tis thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4432019&mesg_id=4432019
and also as proof of media bias (how many here know that New Hampshire reconts yielded MORE votes for Hillary, not less)
here's the pressty picture - complete with the interesting color scheme (isn't red customarily accompanied by MSM swoons?)

[jillan]

1. She did??

I honestly didn't know that.

[jasmine621]

16. Still 1% of votes to be counted but she is ahead right now. nt

[SoFlaJet]

2. I thought it hadn't yet been determined

as I asked in a different thread and was told they are still counting

[Happyhippychick]

3. I also heard that the tallies aren't final yet

Here is the link that I have used which shows that it isn't final:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/

[Cameron27]

4. I didn't know the count was finished.

[MadBadger]

5. Can you show me any link tht backs up what you're saying?

[MonkeyFunk]

9. They're still counting

but Clinton's up by more than 1,000 votes.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NM

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. They Will Be Counting Until Next Christmas To Deprive Hillary Of A Good Healine...

I kid... I kid...

[robbedvoter]

25. Ho joke. In 2004 CNN refused to post Clark's Oklahoma win on their site ("too close"

was the rule they just made up). Thay had managed to keep this win under wraps long enough to kick him out of the race.

[robbedvoter]

24. photo came from here:

http://www.krqe.com/

[Abacus]

6. At the time of those posts, Obama was ahead....

And, to my knowledge, it still hasn't been called. Though, I'd be surprised if Hillary didn't win.

[rodeodance]

7. I have to admit--i did not know--

[DUyellow]

22. that is because the OP is wrong, nobody has one it yet....

[HughMoran]

29. True, but with only 1% remaining, Obama would have to get almost all of the remaining votes

It seems unlikely, but not entirely impossible.

[papau]

8. Hillary leads by a few hundred, but 16,870 provisional ballots remain to be tallied this a.m.

[TheDebbieDee]

10. Now that you mention it, New Mexico had a helluva

time counting ballots from the 2000 Presidential Election, too. Only their ballot problems was overshadowed by the huge crapfest of an election in Flori-Duh!

Eight years later and New Mexico is still having problems.......

[Cameron27]

15. Do you know what the problem was? is?

[rodeodance]

18. Both parties wanted their people at the counts--see my post below for link

[rodeodance]

12. "Clinton holds a lead of 1,092 votes over Barack Obama.":

ALBUQUERQUE (AP) - Democrats are preparing to examine about 17,000 provisional ballots that will determine a winner in New Mexico’s tightly contested presidential caucus.

Party officials say the process will begin Thursday but they can’t say how long verifying the provisional ballots will take.

They say the process was delayed Tuesday when campaign officials asked them to wait so that their representatives could attend the review.

New Mexico is the last of 22 states that held Democratic primaries and caucuses Tuesday to report a winner.

With 183 of 184 of precincts reporting, Hillary Rodham Clinton holds a lead of 1,092 votes over Barack Obama.

When the provisional count is done, it may mean only a



http://kob.com/article/stories/S339347.shtml?cat=500

[rodeodance]

14. says the counting just started today--see here:

Party officials say the process will begin Thursday but they can’t say how long verifying the provisional ballots will take.

They say the process was delayed Tuesday when campaign officials asked them to wait so that their representatives could attend the review.

[milkyway]

13. Show of hands: How many know the OP is wrong?

The article that you take this image from at krqe.com clearly states that nearly 17,000 provisional ballots won't be counted until Thursday (that's today). Hillary's margin of 1,092 is significant but not insurmountable given the number and uncertainty of provisional ballots. Of course, I am addressing the popular vote as the OP did.

http://www.krqe.com/global/story.asp?s=7830446

That gave Sen. Hillary Clinton a statewide lead of 1,092 votes over Sen. Barack Obama.

But that's obviously far from final since nearly 17,000 provisional ballots have not been tallied. Those are ballots used by voters who had registration problems at polling places and may or may not be entitled to vote.

Those were expected to be counted today, but now that won't happen until Thursday.

[rodeodance]

17. Nice to she has a significant Lead--GO HILLARY!

[Barack_America]

20. I knew the OP was wrong!

Because I actually read.

[Straight Shooter]

30. So you're saying robbedvoter can write the English language but not read it.

You never miss a chance to smack someone around. How clever you are.

[Barack_America]

32. Um no, because I do my own reading...

...and already knew it to be false.

Good try though.

[blm]

39. actually, robbed is very smart.....

she just happens to be wrong to support the very crew of people who sabotaged 2000, 2002 and 2004 elections for Democratic voters and candidates.


http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354

[joshcryer]

36. It was trending to Clinton.

And will continue to trend Clinton. Law of averages.

[Iceburg]

19. Really ??? I'll have to start listening to the BBC & CBC again /nt

[JackintheGreen]

21. to deconstruct it even further

Hillary is clearly on the "red" side, while Barack is clearly in the blue. His back is turned to her, perhaps signaling that her rejects her, or maybe just rejects conservatism (red). Very interesting, and maybe unintended.

[JKaiser]

23. I hope she pulls through!:)

It is an interesting color scheme... It makes obama stand out more... Once again proof that the republicans want Obama to win to loose in the general election..

[goldcanyonaz]

26. Clinton won Arizona easily even with the papers working to get Obama to win our state.

They were posting polls on how he was within a few points of her just days prior to the vote.

Many here will claim that the fix was in if she wins New Mexico, but if Obama wins it will all be about "momentum"

:puke:

[Imagevision]

27. Bill did the super-bowl with Richardson obviously for a reason, now

Richardson will expect to be called in for the VP slot...

[elixir]

28. I didn't !!! NPR stated yesterday that Obama had it by a small margin.

Just goes to show you that once tuesday was over, the follow up on the delegate counts went down the drain.

[stevenleser]

31. Significant problems in the New Mexico Tally

That should be explored and straightened out so that whatever is happening over there wont happen for the general. The exit polls showed that Hillary and Obama split the women's vote and that Obama won the mens vote by a significant margin. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NM

If you look at the exit polls, you would expect an Obama victory of about 5%.

[hill08]

33. I am happy she won NM

[adapa]

34. as of 9:50 am on 2.7.06, Hillary is 1,123 votes ahead of Obama, with 17,000 provisional ballots yet

to be looked at.

[blm]

35. How many know Carville sabotaged Ohio voters? Now THAT is media bias.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

[LandOLincoln]

37. No--she's ahead by approximately 1,000 votes but they

just started counting the 17,000 provisional ballots this morning, and that's a chore that could--and probably will--take days, given all the cross-checking they have to do.

[book_worm]

38. If she did congratulations. Very close--Obama made up a lot of points in the polls.

[Azathoth]

40. Show of hands: How many people knew Clintonites were claiming victories they haven't won yet? n/t

[LandOLincoln]

41. Since she's been ahead ever since the polls closed on Tuesday,

and since most people outside of New Mexico don't know that we're still counting provisional ballots, I'd say only a
loser and a sorehead would attempt to frame the situation the way you just did.

Typical, typical, typical...

[Azathoth]

42. You do know there's 17,000 provisional ballots, right?

Sure you did...

[jasmine621]

43. How long does it take to count 17,000 ballots? nt

[Azathoth]

44. Ask them n/t

[angie_love]

45. They're doing an official recount of ALL ballots

Could take days!

[Azathoth]

46. Ah, I thought that was the case

Maybe someone should tell the OP.

[LandOLincoln]

47. Provisional ballots? No kidding?

That must be why I mentioned them in both my previous posts.

Asshole.

[doyourealize1]

48. I'm a Hillary supporter but

I think you're looking too far into the color scheme.

[GoldieAZ49]

49. not yet, they are still counting

Hillary Rodham Clinton 68,654 48.8% 14
Barack Obama 67,531 48.0 12
John Edwards 2,060 1.5 0
Bill Richardson 1,211 0.9 0
Dennis J. Kucinich 511 0.4 0
Uncommitted 413 0.3 0
Joseph R. Biden Jr. 113 0.1 0
Christopher J. Dodd 70 0.0 0
99% reporting | Updated 5:51 PM ET

[DFLforever]

50. I read on a NM TV sight they plan to recount the entire state.

I don't think there's a winner yet.