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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:27 PM
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HOWARD DEAN-We May Have To Broker A Clinton-Obama Deal
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 12:33 PM by kpete
February 6, 2008
DNC chair: We may have to broker Clinton-Obama deal
Posted: 03:02 PM ET

Dean said Democrats would look to “get the candidates together to make some kind of an arrangement” before the party meets in Denver this August to officially select its nominee.

In an interview on NY1 on Tuesday, before the outcome of the day’s votes was known, Dean said he thought the Democratic Party would have a nominee by mid-March or April.

"The idea that we can afford to have a big fight at the convention and then win the race in the next eight weeks, I think, is not a good scenario,” he said.

If there is no nominee selected by his predicted mid-spring date, or by Puerto Rico's June vote – the last presidential primary on the Democratic calendar – Dean said the party would likely bring both sides together to work out a deal.

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/06/dnc-chair-we-may-broker-clinton-obama-deal/
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:29 PM
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1. There's nowhere in that article that implies Dean is looking to make it Clinton/Obama
Did I miss it?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:35 PM
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10. Looks like the blogger pulled it out of you know where.
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:30 PM
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2. Win the Primary.
Major problem... a once in a life time chance for either of the candidates to be the FIRST.

First President of Color whoose supporters mandate that their candidate tries to change the way politics are played in our USA

First Female President of an ex impeached President ... sorry couldnt help myself

No ones going to give ... This MUST be won outright in the primary by either candidate.

But will the superdelegates at the convention decide to subvert the efforts of the movement for change? I have a feeling the fix is already in.

I submit that Billary 08 will cajole or pigeon hole his former party member underlings to "follow your old leader". Loyalty to the party must trump the mandate for change. Besides new and fresh ideas are bad, scarry... The old ways are the best, stay with what we have. Paranoid? Conspiracy? No... If Sen Obama's supporters thinks he was not given a fair playing field to compete on.. these will be some of the talking points.

When that happens.... and I submit that it will. All bets will be off. Does anyone think that these newley registered and independent voters are card carrying "My democratic party right or wrong.. follow me" types? Sen Obama being a Party loyalist will make the plea to his supporters to unite behind Billary 08... my guess is that few will follow...
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:34 PM
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7. Mister 2 J's said
"I have a feeling the fix is already in" I've been worrying about this for a while now-you want to talk about a party being torn in 2? Try some kind of Rovian tactic like that and a LOT of democrats won't even support Clinton in the general.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:38 PM
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13. If Obama got the nom, he'd also be the President of the "ex impeached President"
or were you clumsily trying to make that "association" with the "impeachment" word stick to Senator Clinton in a negative fashion?

I don't think any fix is in, and I think it has a ways to play out.

I initially thought we'd have a bit more clarity by now, but that's not the case. It's still neck and neck.

For all you know, Clinton could broker a deal to make Obama top on the ticket, but he HAS to take her friend Bill Richardson as number two. There's solace in being a kingmaker.

It's too soon to tell.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:31 PM
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3. what kind of frickin deal?
what, are the two camps gonna get together and decide one of them has to take the VP slot and the other the top one? Who would agree to THAT kind of deal? Certainly not the Clinton's and there's no reason Obama should ever even CONSIDER such a scenario.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:35 PM
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11. Well, I think JE agreed to a "deal" to withdraw as a result of "encouragement"
from the party.

I would like to think that these candidates WOULD do the best thing for the party, but I don't know if I fully believe they would.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:39 PM
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17. I haven't heard ANYTHING
like this suggested until you just wrote it-show me somewhere that you read something of this theory.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:59 PM
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18. No, I haven't heard anything confirming this, either. It was just one of the
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 01:01 PM by gateley
explanations explored, and made the most sense to me because of how sudden his suspension was.

Just my opinion - which is only meaningful to me! :hi:

EDIT to add -- He IS one of the candidates I think would make such a move for the party if he was asked to. And that is part of why I'm mostly (at the moment) leaning toward that theory.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:33 PM
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4. I heard him say the same thing on Air America. If I recall correctly, he
said something like he'd like to get them both on the ticket.

Who could have every imagined the twists and turns this campaign is taking? Both sides.


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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:34 PM
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5. Now that Mitt's out...McCain's funding for the GE.
I think we'll have to pool our coffers to compete. Dean's right.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:34 PM
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6. who, in their right mind, would want to play 3rd wheel to Bill Clinton?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:34 PM
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8. Howard needs to shut the hell up
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 12:38 PM by TexasObserver
Let the primary season play out. If Obama is the clear leader from here on, as I think he will be, then the party better make him the nominee, or the down ballot races will suffer big time.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:36 PM
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12. He would never take sides....the blogger made the headline up.
Read it at the link above.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:39 PM
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16. ok, thanks
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:35 PM
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9. Well.. If there's ANYTHING to statistics & polls anymore, over 70%
of Barak's voters would be "ok" with Hillary. .and
over 70% of Hillary's voters would be "ok" with Barak (per Ann Curry yesterday, NBC)

I'm not too worried about the convention.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:39 PM
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15. Excatly!
But it's not as much the support as it is the head start McCain's getting while we're still deciding.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 12:39 PM
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14. CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand....made stuff up.
I think I will contact them as to where she got the quote.
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jeanruss Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:08 PM
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19. Howard Dean has been a huge disappointment to me.
Where was Howard when we had Edwards, who was progressive and could beat McCain. McCain willbe the next president because the military/industrial complex wants another front man for their war on the world. The American public fooled again by the controlled media.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:09 PM
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20. Yanking chains? Lots of that here. Welcome to DU...maybe.
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