Since Obama is out raising Hillary - why doesn't he take some out that money and donate it to

[jillan]

the tornado victims in the South or Katrina victims that are still suffering or to the homeless Vets?

Is it really necessary for him to have that much more money to compete?

I might actually support him if he did that.

[DJ13]

1. You dont live in the real world, do you?

:eyes:

[jillan]

5. No - but one can 'hope', can't they?

[hisownpetard]

84. "No - but one can 'hope', can't they?"

Hilarious syntax.








(Look it up).

[jillan]

90. Excuse me?

Just because I have never been a fan of Shakespeare, doesn't give you the right to insult me.

[hisownpetard]

97. 'Syntax' is not an insult. And it has nothing to do with any reference to Shakespeare.

What *is* an insult is the term you used (and then deleted) for people who are mentally challenged.

And it's not the first time you've used it. So you knew better.

[jakem]

2. im sure he would-

if hillary will match!

[MH1]

52. Or if Hillary would just concede,

they could pool their money, making it all available to make sure the Democrats win in November!!

(and they could still send a bit to the tornado and Katrina victims)

Yeah, I know. But it makes about as much sense as the suggestion in the op.

[Araxen]

87. +1

[wndycty]

3. Very cute. . .

. . .maybe Hillary can make personal loans to the victims as well.

[rateyes]

4. Why didn't she give her 5 million to the same cause

instead of "loaning" it to her own campaign?

[Bread and Circus]

6. I didn't give him money to donate to charity, that's why.

And when I give money to charities I don't want them to give it to political candidates.

[physioex]

25. That's right....

When you give money to a campaign you are doing so on the expectation of making political change. When you give money for cause like Hurrican/Tornado relief you expect that money to go for that cause.

[Occam Bandage]

7. Perhaps Hillary could donate some of her $200-million fortune to those poor groups

instead of to her own campaign.

[TwilightGardener]

8. This theme is getting ridiculous--punishing a guy because thousands

of grassroots small donors (such as myself--a whopping 50 dollars total) sent him money. Now it's "greed". You've got to be kidding me. How about this: Obama gives his money away, and then if he's the nominee, we face the Republican with NO FUCKING WARCHEST! Stupid, huh?

[JVS]

9. If your sorry excuse for a candidate would drop out, he could donate all the money to them

But her desire to destroy the Union must, as all attempts ultimately do, lead to suffering among the common people.

[Donnachaidh]

13. badly written Disney Movie

gee -- are you making sure no one gives your candidate a poisoned apple? :sarcasm: :rofl:

NEITHER candidate gives two shits about the *common people*. Period.

[JVS]

17. Neither does John Edwards

He was just trying to use their poverty as a gimmick

[jillan]

14. And if Obama dropped out, his supporters might be donating to charities instead.

[JVS]

22. No we'd be buying lots of koolatid and rat poison

:crazy:

[TwilightGardener]

Uh, no. My donations to charity have nothing to do with my political donations.

Besides, I'm investing in a great President. I think that's a pretty good charity--the America's Future charity. Think of it that way.

[Donnachaidh]

10. that certainly would be putting your money whee your mouth is.

But don't hold your breath. Unless of course you have health insurance. :sarcasm:

[jillan]

11. He would get the Edwards endorsement for sure if he did that.

[Bonobo]

12. I thought Hillary was already raised... Huh?

[tridim]

15. And with that, the pirhana jumps the shark.

I can't wait to see what you come up with next.

[TwilightGardener]

32. Word. I always liked Biden supporters because they were no-bullshit common sense people.

This is uncharacteristic of them.

[Occam Bandage]

38. Kind of sad to see what's happened to so many of them.

Not to call them out, but I used to believe they were above the bullshit; I was proud that my fellow Biden supporters were the good guys. However, many of the ones I used to like are now some of the biggest bullshitters on this board.

[TwilightGardener]

53. I think they liked Biden because he was in the Senate for a long time

and had waited for "his turn" as the experienced guy. It's natural, I suppose, for them to gravitate to the next longest-tenured candidate. But their hatred for Obama on here is even more irrational than that of Hillary supporters. Must have been that "clean, articulate" thing that set off the bad blood to start with--not Obama's fault, however, and he's been totally classy about it.

[jillan]

55. Why is it that Obama supporters always have to throw Biden into the conversation?

[TwilightGardener]

58. Hey, I like Biden--he was my number two guy. I'm not bashing him at all.

edit--I think Biden would make a good VP for Obama.

[hisownpetard]

61. Why is it that people with screen names of certain fish are always posting something fishy?

[jillan]

63. delete

[hisownpetard]

66. Read Shakespeare much?

[Debi]

74. They're not making fun of those with mental disabilities...

http://www.bartleby.com/59/4/hoistbyoneso.html


hoist by one’s own petard


(pi-TAHRD) To be caught in one’s own trap: “The swindler cheated himself out of most of his money, and his victims were satisfied to see him hoist by his own petard.” A “petard” was an explosive device used in medieval warfare. To be hoisted, or lifted, by a petard literally means to be blown up.


(x( I hate that other word)

[hisownpetard]

82. Thanks, Debi. This poster deleted his nasty remark immediately after posting it, since he/she

has already been called on it before. So he/she can't even claim ignorance as an excuse.

:hi:

[Debi]

88. I have sympathy for Pirhana w/regard to the comment

I have to say that seeing the last four letters of your name makes me knee-jerk too.

Thanks.

d.

[Occam Bandage]

73. Biden's a great guy. He was my #1. We're more commenting on the total personality inversion

of Biden supporters who switched to Clinton.

[jillan]

78. The point is that the amount of money that is needed to become President is insane.

And I can say the same about Biden supporters that have switched to Obama.

[hisownpetard]

83. A glass of warm milk and a couple stewed prunes might help...

[Adelante]

60. A distinct personality change

Once they've switched to Clinton. I've noticed it, too.

[TwilightGardener]

64. They take even more joyful glee in Obama-bashing than anyone else--

really overzealous Hillary converts, for some reason.

[Adelante]

81. I was saddened to see it

They were my favorite group on DU.

[sandnsea]

16. Why didn't Hillary with her $118 Million that she squandered

Upside down, inside out, convoluted attacks - but you don't irrationally hate him. Okay then.

SHE is the empty pantsuit.

[erebusman]

18. no .. Hillary would force all tornado victims to buy home depot gift cards..

no .. Hillary would force all tornado victims to buy home depot gift cards.. to pay for their home repairs. Mandate.

[Exultant Democracy]

57. come on Home Depot your kidding me they would get Wal-Mart cards.

[TwilightGardener]

69. So true, so true.

[TwilightGardener]

70. oops double post!

[MadBadger]

19. While it may sound noble, is that what Hillary did in all those months she outraised him?

Or was she too busy spending 4.2 million on Mark Penn.

[eleny]

20. sour grapes

[H2O Man]

21. please

[jillan]

23. lol - I sure hit a nerve....

[cali]

33. only in the sense that stupididty writ large is annoying.

First of all, are you so ignorant that you don't know that he can't donate money he raises for his campaign to charity? Secondly, it's massively hypocritical nonsense. And did I say stupid?

[hisownpetard]

89. I think you left out "stupid,"

[TwilightGardener]

35. Well, if you call a display of stunning stupidity a "nerve"...

[tridim]

You certainly hit the rock bottom of irrelevance.

Obama can not legally do that with campaign contriubutions.

[jillan]

40. oh please - just having some fun.

[Occam Bandage]

43. So, er...you were trolling, then?

[NoBorders]

24. He's out there raising her? How high?

:-)

[cali]

26. I hate stupid. n/t

[Straight Shooter]

27. He needs to pay someone to teach Michelle what it means to be a Democrat.

Maybe they can find a way to take the chip off her shoulder when it comes to opponents.

[blm]

28. Have you checked the FEC rules about that?

I think it would be called appearance of 'buying votes' of the victims, whether they already voted or still have yet to vote.

[Vinca]

29. Wait, wait - why not have Barack split his money with Hillary so it's even??

:rofl:

[grantcart]

30. why don't you suggest that all of the candidates donate

all of the candidates donate a percent of their personal wealth. Obama's would be the smallest of them.

[Firespirit]

31. If he did, the Hillbots would say it was only for political reasons. eom

[MonkeyFunk]

34. This thread makes DU dumber by 2.4%

[LadyVT]

36. totally agree...action, not words

[tishaLA]

37. Nobody puts baby in a corner!

[Iceburg]

39. Hillary donated $1,000,000 ....

the entire proceeds of her first book -- "It takes a Village" to charity. ALL OF IT!

Obama used the entire $1,600,000 proceeds of his first book "The Audacity of Hope" as a down payment on a mansion without a driveway.

The Irony...the Audacity...the Hypocrisy

[TwilightGardener]

45. LOL! Compare their household net worths, along with John Edwards, and

then get back to us.

[Occam Bandage]

49. Hillary was already wealthy at the time. Obama was anything but.

[Iceburg]

92. Wrong! Their wealth came much later.

Read Bernstein's biography of HRC.

[hisownpetard]

59. The Irony...the Audacity...the MISSPELLING

If you're going to put something in bold print, at least spell it correctly.

i.e., HYPOCRISY.

[Iceburg]

85. Thanks!/NT

[hisownpetard]

98. Heh.

:hi:

[Iceburg]

86. Thanks!/NT

[hisownpetard]

41. Well, for one thing - it would be illegal.

You can't take money that's donated for a specific purpose and turn around and use it for another purpose.

But you didn't really want an answer, now, did you?

[Connie_Corleone]

42. There's a blog post on his website asking his supporters to give to the tornado victims.

[DefenseLawyer]

44. Good Grief

If he gave away his campaign funds you would support him. Right. Just keep throwing garbage at the wall, maybe something will stick. This, however, is sliding rapidly to the floor.

[jillan]

46. Then why do people keep responding to it?

It's hysterical.

[Occam Bandage]

50. It's extremely annoying when people brag about successful disruption.

[DefenseLawyer]

51. Maybe because it is the stupidest thing they have seen all day.

But I can only speak for myself.

[jillan]

76. As stupid as all the money that it takes to buy a President.

[TwilightGardener]

56. We love to pounce on low-IQ posts. It's like shooting fish in a barrel--no challenge, pure payoff.

[hisownpetard]

91. Because when I accidentally step in something, I just have to take the time

to scrape it off my shoe.

[tammywammy]

47. Because that would be illegal

:shrug:

[TheWraith]

48. No you wouldn't. Don't be dishonest. NT

[GoldieAZ49]

54. Hello the primaries are NOW IN PROGRESS

and he needs every dollar to campaign and win

are you really this dense?

[Debi]

62. So he should put himself in the same financial position of Clinton

but he'll be seen as a nice guy? None of us know whether or not Obama gives personally to charitable organizations already. Why should he give money that was specifically given to him to aid in his becoming president to anything other than that? And truly - as President of the United States he can do a heck of alot more for these people and victims of future disasters than he can just writing a check today.

Did any of Clinton's $77 million that she spent through December 2007 go to Katrina victims or homeless vets? No, but we know that $4 million of it went to fatten up Mark Penn's wallet. In the same vein, we don't know how much $$ the Clinton's give to charitable organizations, what we do know is that someone in her campaign is not a good manager of money and Hillary Clinton chooses to just throw $5 million (that we know of) at the problem and not fire or replace any of the people who got her in the position she is in.

I don't know about you, but I plan on voting for the nominee since my state's contest is over - I hope you aren't implying that you won't support Barack Obama in November unless he gives up his campaign resources today.

[jillan]

71. What we should do is demand election reform.

The money that is being thrown around is ridiculous.

[Debi]

79. Both have championed for campaign finance reform - in fact Bill Clinton

has made it clear that no candidate should self-fund! (Guess he forgot that or changed his mind)

But demanding that one candidate (who happens to have raised more money and who happens to have better managed their funds) give money away because the other candidate has a poorly managed campaign (and who won't take control of it but rather just throws more money at the problem)is not logical.

[cottonseed]

65. Maybe she could send Bill out to raise money for those same victims.

nt

[LadyVT]

67. Yes, otherwise it's an election decided on MONEY

The rich person wins.

[cottonseed]

68. In this case, the person with the most small donors wins.

nt

[hisownpetard]

94. So size does matter - and smaller is better,

at least in this one instance.

[cottonseed]

99. Yes, I've been telling that to people my entire life.

nt

[hisownpetard]

100. Hahahahaaa.

:applause: :woohoo: :applause:

[nolabels]

72. Would you be happy if he raised four times as much...........

and gave a quarter of it to her?




Like after all that is deal many of us got back in the 90's :shrug:

[jillan]

75. I just can't stand to see the amount of money that is being needed this year.

[TwilightGardener]

95. So the answer is...NOT to raise the amount needed, and feel personally

righteous and rewarded from having given much of it away to charity when the Republicans take the WH yet again. Good plan--:thumbsup:

[sandnsea]

96. It's because HILLARY Started Over Two Years Ago

Jesus. SHE raised $118 Million Dollars. And she's broke and her Senate campaign is $10 million in DEBT. SHE is what is wrong with our party and I know you know it. What are they telling you down in Arizona???

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

77. I dont think he *can* do that

Now he could be clever and hire campaign workers in those communities but you cant take political donations and give them to people there are laws..

[Catherine Vincent]

80. Normally, you wait and do that after you've suspended your campaign bid. nt

[alteredstate]

93. I have given money to Katrina relief efforts and many other organizations that aid the disadvantaged

I hope Senator Obama does, too. I want my campaign donations to be used for his campaign.