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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:45 PM
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This stuff is some of what will be Obama's swiftboat: The Ottawa Herald
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 01:46 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
Don t betray your heritage for Obama s change

A couple years ago, President Bush thought it would be a good idea to turn over control of one or more vital seaports in the continental United States to an Arab-owned conglomerate. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth including from me.

How could this be? we asked. In the aftermath of 9/11, as we now remember it, that would be like handing the keys of New York City to Osama Bin Laden. I believe there are some of you who remember who he is?

The hue and cry was deafening. To suddenly find our seaports our points of entry, our gateways to the world in the hands of Muslim fundamentalists was not only abhorrent, but also frightening. Even with countless reassurances from Bush administration officials, Arab corporation executives, et al, there was no convincing us this was a good idea for us or for the future of America. That dog don t hunt.
Well, now comes another bad idea ... maybe even worse. The Democratic Party actually intends to put a Muslim fundamentalist in the White House. Yes, you read it right. They want to put a man of Muslim origins in the White House.

Barack Hussein Obama hit the campaign trail from nowhere and continues to gain momentum as his political handlers crank out generic catchphrases to lure the unsuspecting voter with words like hope and change.

Now there s nothing wrong with hope or change. It has been our tradition as a nation that when we get tired of something or someone, we exercise our constitutional rights and throw them out. That s why we asked our representatives for term limitations. But to even consider turning over the reins of government to a Muslim fundamentalist would be, as my grandmother used to say, throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Some Web sites suggest Obama will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance. He refuses to wear an American flag lapel pin. He will not face the flag during the playing of the National Anthem nor will he sing it or even mouth the words.

I know, there are some of you out there right now who are ready to say these are only symbols: Icons of days gone by; Relics of the past. You want change. We should all remember that these relics, symbols and traditions are not just representative of some coffee clache or sewing circle. These are traditions handed down from father to son, mother to daughter. They represent the deep-seated patriotism that brave men and women have given their lives to uphold for more than two centuries.
To elect Barack Obama to the highest office in the land would be nothing less than spitting on the graves of the victims of 9/11, as well as the memory of the countless thousands of American loyalists who have pledged and given their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor in defense of those tired old symbols and icons of the greatest nation on earth. In many cases, these things are all that is left to families of American heroes who heard the call and stepped forward and defended not only their heritage, but the legacies of millions in foreign lands.

Hold fast to these symbols and icons, I say. Hold them up every day and pledge that they are still important to us all. Keep reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Sing the National Anthem. Place your hand over your heart in remembrance of all those who gave their lives so that we all may do so. Remember that they are the very fabric of which our nation is made. Our flag is not just a symbol. It is representative of our soul as a nation. It embodies all the hopes, dreams and aspirations of those who have gone before us, those who are defending freedom today and those who will choose to do so in the future.

Beware of wolves in sheep s clothing, it s been said. Don t betray your heritage simply for the sake of change. Heed the voices of your fellow Americans, past, present and future who call upon you to uphold the principles of the United States and protect them from pretenders like Barack Hussein Obama.

Gary Sillett is a Princeton resident and a pressman at The Ottawa Herald.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:46 PM
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1. allow me to be the first here to say the following
Gary Sillett is a twit. this is all I know about him, and based on this, he's a twit.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:46 PM
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2. This is the same old Muslim smear that's been going around the internets for months
This has been thoroughly debunked many times over. Check Snopes.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:48 PM
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3. Bill Clinton has financial ties to the Dubai Ports Deal
Some of the money she is loaning her campaign may well have come from those ties.

Why don't you put down YOUR Kool-Aid and start paying attention to what we're trying to tell you about the Clintons.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:59 PM
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13. the difference:
everyone has heard the Clinton "dirt," and there arent too many more times the Repubs can go to the well on that.

Obama's dirt is new. when the majority of the American people-- especially in red-state middle America-- actually start paying attention, these types of rumors and slander will stick with people that havent heard it before.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:04 PM
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17. No, this is completely NEW DIRT
It's his influence peddling since he's been out of office.

And you didn't post any connection to anything, you posted Muslim bashing.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:49 PM
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4. I think that'll only help Obama.
Anyone who tries to paint Obama as some sort of fundamentalist Muslim is only going to make themselves look like assholes, and engender sympathy for the candidate.

It's not like Kerry, who was actually in Vietnam, and thus the swiftboaters could offer asinine, untrue speculation as to what happened over there. In this case, you have a man who is not a Muslim and never was a Muslim, much less a Muslim fundamentalist. The contrast between truth and what they're saying is so great, that the only people they'll convince are people that are already voting against Obama anyway.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:03 PM
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15. even Wonkette has it .....
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:05 PM
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19. Yeah, but that only proves my point.
Wonkette has run it, but they've done so in order to rip the shit out of it.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:50 PM
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5. RW nutter trash
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:55 PM
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10. indeed it is but people still believe this crap but the Ottawa Herald printed it
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 01:56 PM by ElsewheresDaughter

this stuff will resonate with a significant portion of Red state America.

it doesnt have to be true, ask the Swiftboat Vets for "Truth."

all it takes is to plant the seed and those red state voters support will start to peel away
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:00 PM
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14. I'd like to see a link
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:15 PM
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25. Here ya go...
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:33 PM
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37. oh, please
That's their blog - they hardly 'published' it, anyone can write whatever crap they please. You made it sound like this was appeared on the editorial page or something - very deceptive.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:33 PM
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39. Exactly.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:21 PM
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30. no it won't. it hasn't thus far and it's unlikely too in the future.
Obama has done a good job innoculating himself from this shit. They've tried and tried to plant the seed. Remember Hill's staffers in Iowa? No doubt Obama has obstacles, this isn't one of them- much as you're in heat to prove differently. Stop orgasming over this filth.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:24 PM
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33. No one believed it
The editor of the newspaper even wrote an editorial blasting the resident who wrote the piece.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:35 PM
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42. Correct, and you usually hear a few callers..
every morning on cspan spewing it...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:58 PM
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49. there are surely...
some people who will gladly post this kind of tripe, in hopes that like-minded people will read it. Fortunately there is a new generation than is not so crippled by their own bigotry. Many of us see through this kind of crap. I guess it doesn't hurt to try though.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:50 PM
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6. Oh no, republicans will lie about our candidate
We're doomed.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:22 PM
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31. Unchartered territory.
Maybe we should give up now?
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:51 PM
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7. be prepared for either candidate to be swift-boated, look what they are doing to McCain
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:52 PM
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8. God, you almost forget how they work, and then they show you. Yuck.
I think you're right and you're wrong here. Some on the right will try this, but the responses to these smears are pretty straightforward, and I think only a small percentage of voters will fall for them, and most of them would be voting Republican anyway.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:54 PM
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9. That's really a bunch of horseshit.
I :puke: on the OP's content.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:55 PM
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11. The Dubai Ports Deal that Bill Clinton ADVOCATED for and has recently banked 20 MILLION
dollars from the Dubai royals who own that company and the very SAME Dubai royals who started BCCI - the very same BCCI that had many serious outstanding matters that were handed over to President Bill Clinton in Jan 1993 and he chose to DEEP-SIX the report and would not pursue the matters that included dealings of Jackson Stephens, GHWBush, AQ Khan, Marc Rich, and various Dubai and Saudi royals.


The same BCCI Dubai royals lining Bill's bank accounts today.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 01:58 PM
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12. check this out
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4458322
Change is coming.
I'll vote for whomever gets the nod but you can't say that there isn't something behind the phenomenon or Obamanon
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Torgo Johnson Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:04 PM
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16. Make sure to contact the Ottawa Herald
and let them know exactly how much we appreciate hearing the viewpoints of one of their employees.

pressroom@ottawaherald.com
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:26 PM
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34. I don't think the OP intended to mislead us, but
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 02:32 PM by alteredstate
The Ottwawa Herald is a small-town newspaper in Kansas.

The piece was written by a "resident"

In an editorial, the newspaper's editor refuted everything the dude wrote.

No big deal --- a freak sent his RW lies to a newspaper.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:34 PM
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40. It's on Wonkette now. That officially makes it humor.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:05 PM
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18. Great.
Any person who pushes that shit discredits and disgraces themself.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:06 PM
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20. this is a RW smear
:thumbsdown:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:07 PM
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21. Americans now understand...
...what Rove and the Swiftboatters were doing.

They look back and see that we were all bamboozled. Many Americans might not agree with
John Kerry's politics, but they understand now that he was unfairly destroyed by a highly
organized campaign method that is loathsome.

Americans now, also understand that George Bush and Dick Cheney were fear mongering when
they said that a vote for the Democrats is a vote for Al Queda. There are Republicans
who support the war--but they now see that fear mongering was a deplorable campaign device.

Rovian, attack lies like the ones in this email---are crafted by people who are living
in the past and completely out of touch with reality. They're about three years behind the
dirty campaign trends.

Whomever is writing this stuff, has no vision, no imagination and they're very sad Rove
wannabees, who didn't get on the gossip train when it was cool.

These tactics are like Pet Rocks and long sideburns. It's just not that cool anymore, and
given what we know today--they're absurd.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:07 PM
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22. "Some websites suggest"...see - Canadians have their own version of Faux News!!
:banghead:
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:11 PM
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24. This isn't from Canada
It's from Ottawa, Kansas. A small community paper. Not even an editorial.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:08 PM
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23. It's a "Community Viewpoint" in the Ottawa Kansas community paper
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 02:16 PM by alteredstate
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:20 PM
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29. I can't get that link to work, but
Edited on Thu Feb-07-08 02:20 PM by alteredstate
if you copy it and paste it, you'll see a slew of Letters to the Editor railing against the "citizen's comment". And the paper's editor wrote an editorial condemning the crap the guy wrote.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:16 PM
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26. Ottawa? what state is that in? Who is this clown
I'm drawing a blank here. The only Ottawa I know of is in Quebec.

And this guy is a Princeton resident? what does that mean? he lives in a place called Princeton and that makes him a resident? don't tell me he graduated from Princeton U. that just can't be.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:17 PM
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27. Ottawa Kansas
This is "citizen commentary".
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:31 PM
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35. Oh. I thought it was some bitter Canadian redneck
Well, fuck him wherever he's from. What a dipshit.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:32 PM
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36. It's a community newspaper in a small town.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:37 PM
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46. They sure can pretty-up an LTE these days on the Intertoobz, can't they?
Actually, as crazy-assed RW rants go, that wasn't the most embarrassing I've read.

Stupid as hell, but at least it looked no weirder than (say) something from Cal Thomas.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:19 PM
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28. The other candidate flames Hillary for voting for the IWR
and she has said over and over that if she knew now what she knew then...but the buttholes won't shut up...I have not heard one MSM member ask the other candidate why he is going to send troops into Kenya. WHICH HE SAYS HE WILL, oh I know...his half brother is fighting for control of Kenya to install his dictatorship...he went over to visit him and after he came back this was the statement.GOOGLE GOOGLE GOOGLE I FOUND IT.
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:24 PM
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32. " if she knew now what she knew then? ?? please...
I'm telling you right now I'll vote for her if I absolutely have to. But if you think I'd swallow that HORSE SHIT....forget about it.

She knew goddam well what she was voting for. Don't insult my intelligence.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:33 PM
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38. And this is only the beginning...
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:35 PM
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41. This is so outrageous it will have the opposite effect of it's intention.
There will always be a core group of people who are dumb enough to believe crap like this but the majority of Americans won't.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:35 PM
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43. ah yes... the old 'barack is a muslim' trick.... won't fly in the GE. (nt)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:36 PM
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44. Did this guy write that?


Anyone remember Floyd R. Turbo?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:46 PM
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48. ole floyd
jesus i am getting old...

the guy did`t write this, i bet it`s a chain e-mail for an aryan nation type site
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:36 PM
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45. bookmarking
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:38 PM
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47. so what?
you`ll find these kind of racist pigs everywhere in the usa and these pigs say the same shit about hillary



be afraid-be very afraid....of what?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:04 PM
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50. Elsewhere, not you too...
:eyes:

What purpose does this really serve. It's the same old Muslim bashing trash.
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