Is the fix in for McCain? This stinks like the green shoes on election night 2004

[LibraLiz1973]

Is it me, or is something just a little fishy about this turn of events? :tinfoilhat:
McCain's campaign was DOA just a few months ago. NO ONE thought he could pull a win out.
When I say no one, I mean no one. Not even the Republicans.

Then, when our field was narrowing down to two, suddenly McCain took the lead.
Listening to the pundits talk, they all seem to be saying that neither Senator Clinton nor Senator Obama
can win running against McCain. Why is that?

I'm getting out my tin foil hat now because Romney just dropped. I do not think it will be long
before Huckabee does the same- though I think it likely that he will wait for Ron Paul to do so first.
It's starting to look like the Republican machine is going to go in to overdrive for McCain.

I'm not entirely sure what to think, but, I know this... if he chooses Condi Rice as a running mate, we are screwn.

[TwilightGardener]

1. I always thought he had a shot to win the nom, because the others were

just awful. There's no conspiracy here. Do you REALLY think they want a 72-year-old standard bearer who mumbles and repeats himself? Really? Of course they don't. That's just what they're stuck with.

[LibraLiz1973]

3. There HAD to have been a better candidate to run

McCain is awful.
The only way he can win is if they fix it for him.
Democrats hate him, Republicans hate him... something isn't right

[TwilightGardener]

8. Well, they HAD a potential candidate who could have run and appealed

to Indies and right-leaning Dems while still being ultra-conservative--Hagel--but the neocon Repubs were too wedded to their war plans. Therefore, it's McCain purely by default and desperation.

[bunkerbuster1]

13. What "isn't right" is that it sucks to be a Gooper today

Most of the country hates them, and they've run out of stalling tactics.

Maybe it's more complicated than that, but I find the simplest explanations are usually the best.

[Horse with no Name]

2. Many of us knew that he would end up being the candidate

He is their White male Christian candidate. It would have been Huckleberry but he opened his mouth one too many times and scared some of their voters off.
There was really never any doubt he wouldn't get it--but not being the frontrunner for months on end spared him the constant vetting AND let him run his campaign under the radar.
Quite a few folks here called it months ago.

[LibraLiz1973]

4. I say again, the Repubs had to have had better options than McCain

I think for about 10 minutes they thought Fred Thompson was a decent option, but they learned how dumb that was.

[harun]

14. How dumb and lazy

Repubs have no one this year. McCain will be easy to beat. No matter how hard the MSM tries to make him sound great, he still aint.

[LibraLiz1973]

19. Yeah. I can't think who the "better" (haha) Repub could have been

but surely there must have been somebody!!!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

5. McCain is the only one of those morons...

...who ever had any traction or popularity with the public at large, except for Rudy. I have no idea what Rudy's campaign thought they were doing, but they seem to have never actually watched a Republican primary season before. Aside from Rudy every single other candidate was either crazy or terminally boring. McCain is winning by default.

[DefenseLawyer]

6. It's no conspiracy theory

Republicans play to win the game, Democrats try to make a statement.

[LibraLiz1973]

20. It all boils down to the fact that they play dirty and have no qualms doing so

[DefenseLawyer]

24. That's not really the point

Yes, republican politicians play dirty, no question about that; but Republican primary voters tend to place much getter weight on electability and party loyalty than do Democratic primary voters, who seem to take the opportunity to support someone that mostly closely reflects all of their views, i.e. making a statement. I don't think dirty play got McCain the nomination, I think it was electability. They will always "hold their nose" and fall in line much more readily than we will.

[melody]

7. Oh, please -- they just cycled through everyone else

First it was Rudy and then he was exposed. Then it was All Dead Fred and he woke up and realized he was running
for President. Mittens is a Mormon. Huckabee's an insane Jesus freak.

Is the McCain/Rice thing the one being floated around as some life preserver for GOP hopes? That's pathetic. Rice
is nothing but a moronic Bushie (her links to Shrub alone will sink her). McCain is just as bad.

[K Gardner]

9. The "turn of events" started within the MSM just after SC

when they tamped down coverage of Romney and Huck and resurrected McCain with glowingly positive coverage and marginalization of the others. They did the same thing to about five of our wonderful and qualified candidates. You are right to put on the tinfoil hat, because there is definitely a pattern here. We are now down to exactly what the MSM and the Corporate master wanted us to be down to. I think Huck and Obama have put somewhat of a fly in their ointment, because no matter how hard they try, they can't squelch the voices of people who are voting for them. Huck will make a deal with McCain, probably already has. The other situation is a bit more problematic.

At some point, this MSM control has got to stop. Nothing good can come from it.

[blwpyrtv]

10. System definitely worked in his favor

If there had been instant runoff voting in many states, the divided opposition he faced would have had enough votes for Romney or Huckabee to win the majority.

Ironically, McCain is among those who advocate instant runoff voting (so does Obama).

[Silent3]

11. The Republican coalition is fracturing...

...and it's simply hard for them to come up with anyone who's got the right mix to appeal to the disparate factions of the Republican base, along with enough of other important qualities like name recognition, party connection, charisma, experience, etc.

Romney's Mormonism and his flip-flopping on things like abortion was always going make him a hard sell to the evangelical base, so the failure of his candidacy isn't that mysterious to me at all.

[MonkeyFunk]

12. The other candidates were even worse than McCain

nothing fishy about it. They had a really crappy field.

[hedgehog]

15. Off-topic, but "green shoes"? What's that about? nt

[LibraLiz1973]

21. lol- It is a joke about election night 2004

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=5655

[Shine]

16. Bottom line: the GOP's days are numbered.

there is a lot of dissension within their party. It's no small thing that Coulter, Hannity and Limbaugh are coming out so strongly against him. This can only help the Dems.

All the Dems have to do is keep positioning McCain as the guy whose policies would basically be a "Bush third term", which is essentially true.

People want CHANGE. It's just that simple.

[Bake]

17. Condi Rice would be a total GIFT to us!

The People are sick of Bush. McCain running with Rice would mean four more years of the same ol' Bushit. McCain could no longer be described by ANYONE, even the MSM, as a "maverick."

We would win in a landslide.

Bake

[LibraLiz1973]

22. The reason I disagree is because I think the same people who stole the last 2

elections for Bush will do it again for Rice.
And since there has been no solution to the fact that there IS voter fraud, it could happen again.

In normal circumstances, she would of course be a dream to run against.
Her positions are terrible & she has made some horrible decisions.

Those hawkish republicans want their evil doers to stay in power. That is what worries me about her.

[incapsulated]

18. I said many moons ago it would be McCain because....

The repukes *always* let you know who they will nominate early on.

And the party clearly was pushing McCain.

Now, I admit, I thought their plan was unexpectedly upended when he seemed to fall apart.

I guess I was wrong. Or right all along, whatever.

[LibraLiz1973]

23. I heard Mary Matalin on the phone with Joe Scarborough the other day

and she basically said she doesn't like McCain at all and thinks he isn't a real Republican.
So she was pretty much pushing Romney, but said Huckabee should have been the electable one.
:rofl: