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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:01 PM
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I can't remember who the media wants to win anymore...
Do they want Obama to get the nomination because he's inexperienced and they know he doesn't stand a chance against McCain...or do they want Clinton to get the nomination because she's divisive and they know she'll bring out conservatives to vote against her?

Or do they want McCain to LOSE, simply because both of these two are Corportate Candidates in bed with the Bushes?

I sure hope the media endorses somebody soon, because it's driving me nuts trying to figure out who they're favoring at any given time!

:sarcasm:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:04 PM
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1. They want McCain. GE, We Bring Good Wars To Life.
He's best for their bottom line.

They'll tout the Dem who is easiest to slaughter in the general.

:sarcasm: is OFF for this post.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:07 PM
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3. GE only owns NBC
who does Disney and Viacom want to win?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:35 PM
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10. They don't "just" own NBC.
I won't even get into their industrial and warmongering enterprises. Here's their media reach--change your channel, to "reject" their BS, and there they are...STILL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_General_Electric

Media


NBC Universal (NBC merged with non-music entertainment assets of Vivendi Universal - GE has 80% controlling share)
NBC - National Broadcasting Company
NBC Network Television stations
WNBC 4 - New York
KNBC 4 - Los Angeles
WMAQ 5 - Chicago
WCAU 10 - Philadelphia
KNTV 11 - San Jose/San Francisco
KXAS 5 - Dallas/Fort Worth²
WRC 4 - Washington
WTVJ 6 - Miami
KNSD 39 (cable 7) - San Diego²
WVIT 30 - Hartford
NBC Entertainment
NBC News
NBC Sports
NBC Studios
NBC Universal Sports & Olympics
NBC Universal Television
Universal Media Studios
NBC Universal Television Distribution
NBC Universal International Television
EMKA, Ltd.
NBC Universal Digital Media
NBC Universal Cable
A&E Television Networks¹:
A&E
The Biography Channel
The History Channel
History Channel International
The History Channel en Español
Military History Channel
Crime & Investigation Network
Bravo
Chiller (horror-themed cable channel launching March 1st, 2007) <1>
CNBC (co-owned with Dow Jones)
CNBC World (co-owned with Dow Jones)
MSNBC (co-owned with Microsoft)
NBC WeatherPlus
mun2
Sci Fi Channel¹
ShopNBC
The Sundance Channel¹
Sleuth
USA Network
Universal HD
NBC Universal Global Networks
LAPTV (Latin America) - co-owned with Paramount Pictures (Viacom), Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (owned by MGM Holdings) and 20th Century Fox (News Corporation);
Telecine (Brazil) - co-owned with Globosat Canais, Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks (Viacom), MGM and 20th Century Fox Film Corporation;
Universal Channel Latin America (except Brazil, distributed by Fox Latin America);
Universal Channel Brazil (co-owned with Globosat Canais);
Sci Fi Channel Latin America, distributed by Fox Latin America);
NBC Universal Global Networks España.
Telemundo
KVEA/KWHY - Los Angeles
WNJU - New York
WSCV - Miami
KTMD - Houston
WSNS - Chicago
KXTX - Dallas/Fort Worth
KVDA - San Antonio
KSTS - San Jose/San Francisco
KTAZ - Phoenix
KBLR - Las Vegas
KNSO - Fresno
KMAS - Denver
WNEU - Boston/Merrimack
KHRR - Tucson
WKAQ - Puerto Rico
TiVo¹
Universal Studios
Universal Pictures
Focus Features
Rogue Pictures
Working Title Films
Universal Studios Licensing
Universal Animation Studios
Universal Interactive
Universal Pictures International
Universal Home Entertainment
Universal Home Entertainment Productions
United International Pictures (co-owned with Paramount Pictures/Viacom);
Universal Operations Group
Universal Production Studios
Universal Parks & Resorts
qubo - Qubo Venture,LLC¹


If you want to make the connections across the board, this site is helpful: http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html

Here's ABC's assets (note the convergence with GE in a spot or two):

ABC Radio, ABC Video and ABC Network News

Disney Channel
Disney Television (58 hours/week syndicated programming)
Toon Disney
Touchstone Television
A&E (37.5% with Hearst and GE)
Lifetime Network (50%)
ESPN (80% with Hearst)
ESPN2 (80% with Hearst)
ESPN Classic (80% with Hearst)
ESPN West (80% with Hearst)
ESPNews (80% with Hearst)
Buena Vista Television
Biography Channel (with GE and Hearst)
History Channel (37.5% with Hearst and GE)

Classic Sports Network
E! (35%)


If you look at that matrix in the second link, you'll see convergence here and there across the board. Remember Don Imus? He aired on MSNBC television, and was broadcast over the radio on CBS Radio Networks. Now he's doing his radio gig from ABC, and his TV reach is through RFD TV, which will be sucked into "The Vortex" probably sooner, rather than later.


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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:07 PM
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2. "They" (not just the media) want your candidate to lose. Period.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:07 PM
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4. They always want the "other guy" to win. Never, never, never admit
that the MSM has anything but disgust for and fear of your favorite candidate. :)
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:14 PM
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5. The media wants conflict to win
they are attention starved exhibitionists.

The last thing they want is for this race to be over.

Now that McCain has secured the Repug nomination, they will pay scant attention to him.

All eyes will be on Hillary and Barack.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:21 PM
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7. OK, thus far, your answer is the one that makes the most sense.
When it all comes down to it, the media cares about ratings, because ratings = $$$$$ from commercial sponsors. They're all too happy to see Democrat pitted against Democrat--but now they'll start examining McCain under a microscope if they pay attention to him at all.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:25 PM
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9. They'll save McCain for the General Election
but you can bet they'll do the research now.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:22 PM
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8. BING BING BING BING we have a winner...
And now on to our next Shark ATTACK!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:37 PM
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11. Well, McCain has been speaking on network tee vee for twenty minutes
at that moronic conservative hoot-n-nanny.

The audience is screaming like they're at a fucking gladiator duel. What a bunch of nitwits.

They don't JUST like conflict. They want to consolidate this guy as the "logical" choice.

Conflict? Certainly--War Without End, Amen.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:21 PM
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6. They want McCain. They hate Clinton.
They don't know what to make of Obama. Give them time, they'll soon decide what they want us to think of him, and let us know.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:38 PM
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12. The media wants whoever the poster is not supporting.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:41 PM
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13. I knew it was smart to be avatar-less...
...this way, people don't make assumptions about my personality and/or political beliefs.

That having been said--don't you recognize my DU name from previous GDP threads? I remember yours...
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:43 PM
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14. I didn't mean you in particular. I meant,
"For all posters X supporting candidate Y, X believes that the media is supporting not-Y."
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:45 PM
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15. Gotcha.
;)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:52 PM
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16. "It was my understanding that there would be no math."
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