The DNC should ask the people of Florida and Michigan if there vote should stand

[sunonmars]

Why can't the DNC undertake a huge poll withing Florida and Michigan with the aid of 2 of the most neutral polling bodies.

Ask a random sample of 15'000 people in Florida and in Michigan, Do you think the results of the Michigan or Florida ballot should stand.

If it is a yes, then the vote should be honoured, if it is a no , then a revote applied.

Its a simple way to as certain if they feel that no campaigning affected a decision.

Could this not be a simpler way of them deciding.

Its their vote, let them decide!

[ursi]

1. the voting process was flawed due to agreements beforehand, they should caucus

[Renew Deal]

2. If you're going to do that, you should just let them re-vote.

:shrug:

[snooper2]

14. Yeah, kind of stupid...

Let's organize and have everyone vote, to see if they can vote again..


Der der der...

[sunonmars]

17. did i say vote, no, i said a large poll done.

[snooper2]

26. And just how would this large poll

ensure everyone only voted once? You call everyone with land lines only? On the Internet, DU :)

[LakeSamish706]

3. No they shouldn't, they should seat them and split the delegates evenly. n/t

[sunonmars]

4. like Hell Hillary took both states handsomely

You cant just give away what people voted for.

[Kittycat]

6. In an unfair and unbalanced race.

44% of the people in Michigan turned out to vote AGAINST her as uncommited, knowing their vote wouldn't count.
It's not even possible to estimate the number of voters in FL & MI that didn't even bother showing up.
And she is a "known" candidate - Obama isn't. They both deserve the equal right to campaign.
In the end... They should caucus.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. No, they shouldn't caucus. You don't get to do it over just because your guy lost both states.

sheesh.

[sunonmars]

13. What rubbish, they campaigned for uncommitted, they took themselves of the ballot

Their fault alone. No one asked them too. The people knew what they were voting for, that shit don't fly of people didnt know.

you act as if people of florida and michigan have no tvs, internet, newspapers, eyes and ears.

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. I agree. I wouldn't want MY vote going to someone I didn't vote for. n/t

[joshcryer]

5. They don't get doovers. Stop wanting to change the rules.

[sunonmars]

7. I don't want do-overs either Josh, someone has to give way somewhere

I think Hillary won these fair and square but why are people so against asking the people of Florida and Michigan what they want to do, its their votes.

[joshcryer]

21. I wouldn't worry about it, if it came down to the wire, Dean and Hillary and Obama would sit down...

And the nomination would go to the one with the most pledged delegates + popular vote. Because that will essentially be the arguments that are made at the DNC.

[Kittycat]

8. FIne then - the rules state - their delegates won't be seated. End of story.

[joshcryer]

20. The rules state that their vote doesn't go toward the nomination. It won't.

But they can be seated. :)

Nothing in the rules say they can't be seated.

[sharp_stick]

9. Screw that

they broke the rules, were informed of the consequences, and went ahead anyway. They should get no delegates and see if they bother to follow the rules next time.

[samdogmom]

11. This is so unfair!

The agreement was to NOT run in the two states and to NOT count their delegates. Everyone was in agreement UNTIL HILLARY WON! (Gee--do you think if your name is the only one on the ballot that you have an advantage?) Give me a break! If she pulls off this theft--and that's what it is--a common ROBBERY!--who do you think will respect her in the morning? Not me! EVER!

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. What a crock. She spoke out about this LONG before she won. Stop whining.

:eyes:

[samdogmom]

23. Smoke and mirrors...whatever! Politics as usual when the Clintons are involved!

By the way, I love your peace dove "thingy" (sorry, don't know what to call it--but it's very catchy). Thanks! It calms me and tells me that ultimately in the end we're still going to be on the same side!

[TheDonkey]

16. wtf? who would say "oh no it shouldn't" their party leaders cheated and shouldn't be rewarded

If they had just followed the rules they could have really made an impact.

[qazplm]

18. its this kind of win at any cost approach

that is quickly turning me off to Clinton supporters and Clinton herself.

Obama DID NOT RUN in Michigan, he wasnt even on the ballot. Edwards, wasnt even on the ballot.

And yet now you have laughable calls to count the votes for Clinton, who was the only front runner not to take herself off the ballot.

[sunonmars]

19. excuse me Obama made damn sure he told everyone to vote uncommitted

He took himself off the ballot he did not have too.

[butterfly77]

22. Yes, Ask me...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

24. Have the polls in this election season always been reliable enough?

There are a lot of new voters coming out to vote and the old polling methods may not be sufficient to include them in the proper proportional amount.

[sunonmars]

25. Why do you think i said a sample of about 15'000 instead of the usual 1000