There you have it: Hillary will use strongarm tactics to control the media and surpress dissent.

[LoZoccolo]

You can see it in the extortion of MSNBC regarding her refusing to debate on their network.

Maybe we will see George W. Bush* redux in matters such as those that sent Helen Thomas to the back of the press conference room!

[MonkeyFunk]

1. Your daughter's a whore

don't have a daughter?

Your mother's a whore.

Dont' have a mother?

Your sister's a whore.

feels good, huh?

[DJ13]

3. And you're a butthead

Hey, maybe I can become a reporter!

[thunder rising]

4. That from a DUer "MonkeyFunk" Funk off

[terrya]

19. "Funk Off"...that was...supposed to be humor, wasn't it?

Gosh, aren't you CLEVER. Another freaking Oscar Wilde, aren't you?

MonkeyFunk is exactly right.

[Bucky]

34. Should someone named "Thunder Rising" to make fun of another DUer's user names?

Never mind. I know I'm wasting my time jousting with you.

[LoZoccolo]

6. Good thing I'm not running for president. n/t

[griffi94]

7. what about oprah

what's the staus of her virtue ....

[kikiek]

31. Hah that is what I thought. He wouldn't dare say that about OPRAH!

Double standards. I won't say anything about Obama supporters though. I don't believe the majority of people who support him support such disgusting talk. Reminds me of Limbaugh when he said he wouldn't talk about how ugly she was because she was only 13, but once she was old enough she would be fair game. It really highlights how women are judged and disparaged.

[terrya]

14. Anyone would be livid if their children were treated badly in public.

Or family members. I certainly would.

But simple desire to stand by a family member just doesn't work when confronted by irrational hatred like the OP is demonstrating.

[bigbrother05]

30. Didn't they suspend the guy?

Extremely bad judgment in choice of phrase and he deserves a smack, but to 'punish' the network for an individual's statement could be construed as going to extremes. If they don't take some kind of punitive action, then the Clinton camp has a stronger argument, but it is still and individual act.

A bit of public outrage is to be expected, but after the chilling effect the current WH occupant has had on public discourse, forgive a bit of cynicism/paranoia on some folks part.

[Bucky]

32. Typical language from a Clinton supporter! Grrrr!

Oops, sorrry. For a second there I thought I was posting in GDP.

Never mind. ;)

[NoBorders]

38. Your a cultist! Yes, lables can be nasty.

What Schuster said was bad, but the campaign is in glee with how they can leverage this thing. MSNBC will be like their servants from now on.

[MonkeyFunk]

42. There was a time

when ANY dem standing up to the excesses of the media was applauded here. But when it's Clinton, all bets are off.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

[JackORoses]

40. he didn't say she was a whore, he said she was being pimped out

They had her calling Superdelegates trying to persuade them to vote for her mom.

They were pimping her out.

Hillary should do her own persuading, why use Chelsea like this?

Oh, it's all about the Sympathy, I get it.

[MonkeyFunk]

43. Does Barack pimp out Michelle?

[JackORoses]

44. she's not calling Superdelegates behind the scenes, is she?

it's even worse that they use their child for this.

[MonkeyFunk]

50. I have no idea if she is

and neither do you.

All campaigns are lobbying for superdelegates.


But we know Michelle speaks for him at rallies - is he pimping her out?

[JackORoses]

51. Superdelegates are not the same as the voting public, and you know it.

attempting to sway them by calling in old favors, making promises, and having your daughter call them is just plain unethical.

[thunder rising]

2. Let Hillary in office and there will just be a different set of sacred entities left untouched.

[xultar]

5. So, I guess you look down on Black folk who got Imus fired or the guy from Golf Magazine

ok.

[LoZoccolo]

9. No. n/t

[xultar]

13. Why not? Guy says shit that is inappropriate and people take a stand. Unless it is o.k.

to insinuate that the daughter of a candidate is a whore and her mother is a pimp.

[LoZoccolo]

16. I didn't say it was OK. n/t

[joshcryer]

17. It obviously is. There is an assinine number of people here who don't see anything wrong with sexism

[rodeodance]

20. thanks, good analogy

[HughMoran]

45. Seems you got a "no comment" on that one

:D

Don't let them pull the same old hypocritical bullshit out of their asses again.

[sam sarrha]

8. i dont get it, gota link

[BuyingThyme]

10. She picked up Bush tactics from the start, planting audiences, planting questions.

Disgusting.

[Cooley Hurd]

11. Yawn...

just give it up, umkay?:eyes:

[Evergreen Emerald]

12. There was a time when we cheered Bill for standing up to the media

There was a time when you applauded the fact that Obama refused to go on Fox.

Times they have changed?

Or is it that you will use anything no matter how hypocritical it makes you--to find a way to attack Clinton.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. so you think sexism is ok? how do you feel about racism? shoudl imus not have been chastized

i think you are just making shit up to make clinton out to be evil. its tiresome.

[LoZoccolo]

18. No, I don't think sexism is OK.

I never said that what was said was OK.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. so she shoudl just roll over for the media? i like a president who doesnt,

sorry you dont.

[LoZoccolo]

23. Wrong again. n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. doubt it. nt

[LoZoccolo]

28. Try asking instead of accusing. n/t

[Alamom]

21. If she had that kind of power, I wish she would have stopped some of the

Shit coming from the MSM months ago.

Obviously, she doesn't have that kind of power or
she would have gotten all the positive coverage, not Obama.

Source: Dan Abrams - MSNBC



Shuster was an ass and is paying the price.

[rodeodance]

24. I see you missed what this issue is all about!!--but gives you space to sprew Clinton hatred!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

25. If Chelsea gets politically involved, then she's fair game like anyone else

She isn't off limits to fair criticism. It doesn't mean however that I have to refrain from criticizing completely un-called for remarks from David Shuster. I condemned Shuster's particular language used. But he made a very uncharacteristic remark for him, which all people sometimes do and then apologized. So I think it's time to move on and not call for his banishment from the airwaves.

[Bucky]

36. I can't imagine the circumstances under which it's okay to imply a young lady's a whore.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

39. And my post to which you responded agrees with that

[McCamy Taylor]

49. Do you really mean this? So any remark about anyone on ANY topic is ok?

Like the Tennessee ads "Call me, Harold" those are just an example of All is fair in love and war? And when W. told people in South Carolina that McCain had an illegitimate love child, that was just politics are usual. And saying that John Kerry was the reason the US military illegally crossed into Cambodia (heard this on Fox) that's good clean fun. And calling McCain a psycho because he was a POW---cool. As long as it is "fair criticism". Meaning something that someone somewhere could believe. And we know that there are people who hate and despise Chelsea and have called her dog and worse, so they will have no trouble believing that the Clintons "pimped her out" and repeating it on their radio talk shows and getting a big laugh out of it. Why, I have even rest posts at DU from people who say that it is true.

Boy, I did not realize that there were people at DU that go in for the hard stuff. I'll bet you would have just loved the Daisy Ad.

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

56. But the line was clearly planned

When he got interupted the first time he tried to say it, he used it again.

[NanceGreggs]

27. Standing up for your daughter ...

... is hardly "suppressing dissent".

Hillary just did what John McCain should have done when people went after his family - if he'd had the balls, that is.

BTW, I'm an Obama supporter - this isn't about "controlling the media"; it's about standing up for your family when someone humiliates them in a public forum.

It's unfortunate you don't see the difference between the two.

[sam sarrha]

29. that just shows good discretion.. just a pack of corporate war whores

[NoPasaran]

33. Personally, I'm looking forward

To her having Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck, and all the Fox News crowd rounded up and shot.

[TexasObserver]

35. Just another day of scheming and scamming by campaign Hillary

[RamboLiberal]

37. Schuster deserved the smack down

His suspension is appropriate.

But explain to me Hillary agreeing to a debate on Faux where savaging her and her family is a daily sport?

Asked by interviewer Sean Hannity "about whether or not Bill raped her and conceived Chelsea that way," author Edward Klein backed off the claim in two June 21 interviews -- and told two conflicting stories about his own sourcing for it in the process.

In an afternoon interview on Hannity's nationally syndicated radio show to promote his new attack book on Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), The Truth About Hillary (Sentinel, June 2005), Klein said, "My source never said Bill raped Hillary." He added that the supposed "source" thought that Bill Clinton had made the comment, "I'm going to go back to my cottage and rape my wife," as a "joke" and in "jest." But in a later TV interview with Hannity on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Klein backed off the story entirely, saying, "Nor do I suggest for a second that he was raped."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200506220002

Hannity told Klein that he thought that Hillary Clinton's sexuality was a private issue adding that the rape allegation was especially unkind to Chelsea. Hannity stressed that his political disagreements with Clinton are vast but he thought this type of attack was out of line.

There seems to be a mixed reaction on the Right to Klein's book. Rush Limbaugh has said that it could create a backlash of sympathy for Clinton increasing her popularity. It's also interesting that the review in Murdoch's New York Post was not good considering the emerging repect between Rupert and Hillary.Of course, we also can't forget the new friendship growing between Bush and Clinton.

comment; Naturally I agree with Hannity's response last night and I must say that he behaved like a mature professional in this one instance. (I imagine that some readers will turn on me violently now calling for my resignation and declaring me a traitor.)

However, I doubt that Hannity suddenly developed a concience about hurting the Clintons unfairly. I have witnessed Hannity and Dick Morris accusing Hillary of some pretty outrageous things and their bashes were very mean spirited.Then I have watched Hannity sit on the side smiling while Ann Coulter called Bill Clinton a "rapist" and that was one of the kinder comments. So right now, I have no illusions about Hannity's motives or Hannity.

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/06/22/hannity_rejects_new_hillary_clinton_book.php

[Bucky]

41. He should be pimp-slapped... by Chelsea!

[HughMoran]

46. knotty!

You're bad!

:P

[Egnever]

47. She refused to debate?

[Skip Intro]

48. Hillary stood up for her daughter. Good for her. Comparing her to bush for that says more about you

than her.

Have another glass, Loco.

[surfermaw]

52. This coming from a Obama supporter( My MY MY

[rodeodance]

53. OP does the Obama camp NO favors with that kind of post.

[rodeodance]

54. DOES THE OP HAVE ANY INCKLING of how the posts damages the Obamacamp??

here you have it: Hillary will use strongarm tactics to control the media and surpress dissent.

You can see it in the extortion of MSNBC regarding her refusing to debate on their network.

Maybe we will see George W. Bush* redux in matters such as those that sent Helen Thomas to the back of the press conference room!

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

55. You know, what really gets me

The guy had the line all ready to go. It wasn't a slip of the tongue. He started to say the line, and it got interupted. So he waited patiently for the moment again, and he used it again.

By the way, anybody can call a superdelegate, you can, too.


I'm not a Hillary supporter, I'm not an Obama supporter. Either one is fine by me.