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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:23 AM
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Boycott..... MiSogynyNBC... unless you want to settle for them picking our nominee...
MiS(ogyny)NBC

viewerservices@msnbc.com

msnbc viewer services

"Today is the last time I listen to msnbc. msnbc’s universal platform of "Hillary-Hate" will no longer be tolerated."

"It began january 20, 2007 with Chris Matthews spewing his venomous attack on Senator Clinton for entering the race and up-staging his beloved Barack Obama. The attacks from the likes of Joe Scarborough, Chris Matthews, Keith Olberman, Tim Russert and others, were relentless throughout year 2007. these attacks culminating January 8, 2008 when all of msnbc found it necessary to insult the voters of NH by insinuating race played a part in our decision. Our votes. Our win.

Today the attacks on Hillary Clinton continue and now include her daughter, with David Shuster’s “pimping Chelsea” remark.

I ask you, how well “pimping Malia” or “pimping Natasha” or "pimping Michelle" would be received?

Today is the last time I listen to msnbc.

Alcina
Concord, New Hampshire

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:28 AM
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1. gosh, your post almost makes me wish I had TV
so I could watch MSNBC. I'll just have to give their website hits.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:36 AM
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5. Sure, if you can put your pail and shovel down for a minute...
and forego lollipop time... you might see a cartoon that tickles you!
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:41 AM
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8. It began in 2000 dissing Gore, then Swiftboating Kerry
Not to mention screwing Howard Dean by airing the yell
every 10 minutes.

I pulled the plug on Cable altogether.

CNN acts like our friend, but by the critical moment starts
dissing our candidate.

Cable news should not be telling us how to vote.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:29 AM
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2. Baloney. That particular word has become part of the popular lexicon,
like it or not. It was inappropriate to use about anyone by a talking head, but not the end of the world. (And yes, I'd feel the same if it was said about Michelle.) As long as KO is on MSNBC, I'll watch.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:34 AM
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4. Then just because YOU find it acceptable, theres no room for a conflicting opinion?
Tell it to the Judge, friend.. Hate speech against woman is just as hurtful and damaging as racial slurs against any ethnicity. Based on your post, you relate to none of the above...
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:44 AM
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11. I'm just saying . . . get a grip. In the grand scheme of things,
it's not the freaking end of the world. Remember Imus? The earth didn't fall out of its orbit when he reappeared on the scene. I suspect you're playing this up because it takes the focus off Obama for a few minutes.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:51 AM
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13. Suspect all you want!... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
and we're NOT going to take it anymore. We all supported Civil Rights for Blacks and now is the time for Supporting and Demanding Equal Rights for Women.. There is no reasonable need for the unrelenting disrespect on Cable News Shows for the disrespect shown for Senator Clinton's Candidacy. She represents women and their opinions in the workforce today. If that affects their sensibilities, then so be it.. they will have to pay the price.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #11
27. It is just sexism...no big deal. Right?
Women should just shut the fuck up. God, what a bunch of whiners. Pimp / whore / slut--just slang...get over it.

oh brother. This election is showing such hatred towards women. It is unbelievable.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:29 AM
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51. Okay. Let's tar and feather Schuster. Let's drive MSNBC out of business.
(After Hillary's debate, of course.) That will immediately end the uttering of stupid, sexist, racist, vile remarks around the world. I have not said it is "okay." It was a nasty remark about a lovely, young woman, but I honestly don't think David Schuster thinks Chelsea is a hooker. The meaning of words sometimes changes over time and not always for the better. I'm not condoning it, that's the way it is. Oddly enough, some time ago I had gotten the impression from Schuster that he was a Hillary supporter.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:31 AM
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52. Schuster himself said he was mad that Chelsea does not talk to the press
So, he used his power--think about that--his massive power of the airwaves to attack Clinton.

There was a time when DU would not stand for that. There was a time when we applauded those who stood up to the propaganda machine.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #52
57. I'm not giving up Olbermann over something he didn't say.
If he goes to another network, I'll go with him.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:58 AM
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32. Would it have been acceptable in use against Obama's wife or children?
Don't bother to answer.

I would find in unacceptable, as would most people, regardless of the candidate.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:30 AM
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3. The attacks on Hillary by Big Media are disgusting...
yet, many of you choose to sit by and play the "I don't see anything wrong with it!" game. Or the "You're making a mountain out of a molehill" game! But if anyone called Obama an "Uncle Tom" Democrat...you'd be all over msnbc, like stink on skunk!...So abusing the feminine is acceptable and not as important as racial slurs? Get over yourself! Theres a woman running for the presidency and the msnbc doesn't want a female in the White House. It's that simple!
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:37 AM
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6. I totally agree with you....
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 08:37 AM by yadayadayada
and I find the Obama supporters that find it OK because it didn't happen to their candidate's child are just as offensive.

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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:37 AM
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7. Excellent Alcina
I just don't get this "Clinton hatred." From the minute Bill Clinton took office, they were after him. The media and the republican machine just couldn't stand the fact that some "hick" from a poor family could make his way to the White House. He wasn't from the "gentry" and they couldn't bear it. As far Hillary was concerned, well she just has a big mouth, right? There is this culture in the media that anything can be said about the Clintons and its ok. Well, now they know its not. In David Shuster making a stupid and crude remark about Chelsea, who is universally seen as a fine young woman, the spotlight is now shinning on the bias in the media when it comes to the Clintons.

There is a very good point being made on Talking Points Memo that Shuster is being made the fall guy for every gross remark made in the past by Chris Matthews.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. The best I'm hoping for with Matthews...
is for him to be ordered by the producers of msnbc to start reporting realistic journalism and stop with the Tabloid attacks on Hillary ergo Women..
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:42 AM
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9. KUDOS
They pick our candidate, then they'll destroy him
llike they did Kerry
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. Yep! and what amazes me that the Obama supporters
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 08:48 AM by golddigger
think that Obama will get a free ride if he becomes the nominee.

They are in for a rude awakening.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:51 AM
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14. Good idea
I kept getting drawn to MSNBC's coverage, only to end up annoyed at their bias & sexism. Here's my email:


"I am a life-long Democrat, and a former viewer of MSNBC. I have decided to boycott the network for good after watching your coverage of Super Tuesday. Your commentators are not even trying to hide how much they hate Hillary Clinton anymore.

I found your coverage totally biased and unprofessional. First of all, the network covered one poll that showed Obama winning CA by 20 points pretty much non-stop as people were voting in CA. The commentators pumped up any win for Obama, but every time Clinton won a state, they would try to find reasons why this doesn't matter, or isn't a real win, etc. etc. Olbermann and Matthews made their total contempt for Clinton obvious throughout.

The kicker for me was when Clinton won California. Olbermann was forced to call CA for Clinton, and instantly, in the next sentence, tried to say that this wasn't a "real" win because of some obscure CA election law. He then called on Tom Brokaw to tell viewers why Hillary really didn't win - almost like he was in denial. I couldn't even be happy about Clinton's win for one second before MSNBC decided to tell me how I should think & what I should feel. Your job should be to REPORT the news, straight, not engage in propaganda and persuasion of voters. I found Fox News' coverage to actually be more fair & balanced, which is somewhat horrifying.

I think there is a definite strain of misogyny and sexism in a lot of MSNBC's political coverage, and I as a woman am sick of it. First of all, Matthews constantly belittles women on his show, for which he eventually gave a half-hearted apology. And now Shuster says that Chelsea is being "pimped"? These aren't isolated incidents, but part of a general "frat house" atmosphere at MSNBC. Don't your commentators realize that at least half of your viewers are women? But not this one, anymore.

Sincerely,


Marie26

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:57 AM
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15. Excellent letter, Marie26
and well stated! Thanks for the assist!
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #14
17. That's a very good letter! Exactly how our household feels. /nt
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #17
81. Thanks!
If you feel that way, maybe you could write an email as well. The only power we have, as viewers, is to protest & boycott a network - if enough people write in, MSNBC might eventually start getting the message.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:01 AM
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16. This coming from a Taylor Marsh propaganda site
hillaryis44 paid for by Taylor marsh and the DLC

bwaahahahahah
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #16
21. I have a question for you:
For someone that who stalks Hillary supporters from thread to thread ranting about His44 and never has posted a single positive thread about your candidate or carried on a reasonable conversation in a thread.

Why then do you go running and whining to the moderators that you are being victimized by Hill supporters nasty comments? When all it is IS you are being swatted like the annoying fly your are for mucking up our threads?
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #21
23. AS I said
This coming from a Taylor Marsh propaganda site.

NO SALE
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #23
44. And as I said, we do not respect Cry Babies..
We give them lollipops to keeps their minds attentive..

Here's yours:

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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #44
48. Gee thanks n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #16
76. I see you are doing your usual Obamacrybaby crying!
bwaahahahahah
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:31 AM
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18. HRC people just don't get it
Disliking Hillary does not mean someone, thing, network, etc. is misogynistic!

Many people just can't stand that PARTICULAR WOMAN, Hillary.

That's why she's a poor potential standard bearer. Her negatives are so high among repukes, she wno't draw any indies and look at Dems here on this board. I can't stand her nor can any of the women in my family and we're not self-loathing females!
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:49 AM
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22. It's part of their persecution complex.
They fail to see that despite Shuster messing up big time (and apologizing), that there are very few outlets for the progressive voice. And unless they support HRC 150%, they're evil. Sorry - I'm all for KO, and will not stop watching his show just because some Clinton Supporters want to play martyr.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. The martyr of the campaign is Obama, not Clinton.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:56 AM
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28. Not likely... It's all about poor little Hillary
Crying her eyes out. Complaining that people won't caucus for her. Complaining about MI & FL, when she signed on to the rules. Give me a fucking break. The Media has it in for her (outside of the reprehensible shuster comment). She's out of control with the whining. Have you stopped to really look at what she's doing? Or are you blinded in your unquestionable following of her?

And don't even get me started on IWR, Clusterbombs, Bankruptcy, Etc, Etc, etc. Or the fact that I fear how many more favors she and bill will do for their friends when they get back in power. And until I see some tax returns AND his donor list... I'm not even going to bother looking her way. Bill was shady in his dealings, and you cannot deny that. Now that she's loaned her campaign money - I want proof positive where it's coming from. Transparency my ass. She's be nothing more than BushIII when it comes to secrecy in the white house.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #28
77. give this Thread a ***king break and drop your POOP elsewhere
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #18
29. WTF? What reality do you live in?
Using the expression "pimping" to refer to their daughter campaigning with them is beyond the pale for any candidate.

Unacceptable, get it?
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #29
33. They're too entrenched in their cult to see anything other than OBAMA.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 10:01 AM by goldcanyonaz
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #18
40. One of these things is not like the other...can you guess which one?
It would be good if you were clear on the topic..... disliking Hillary is not the topic of discussion.

The topic of discussion is broadcasters such as Matthews, Scarborough and Olberman on a cable news network repeatedly disrespecting the Clinton family and a woman (and daughter) in that family who happens to be running in the election as a presidential candidate..The above mentioned msnbc anchors do this with nasty insulting remarks geared to undervalue, humiliate and harasses in misogynous tones a "female" candidate by using their own concocted personal smears rather than discussing issue differences between candidates. And thereby, have proven themselves to be nothing more than pure unadulterated women haters...

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #18
59. Schuster used his power to attack Clinton. It is supposed to be "NEWS"
Every politican's volunteers and surrogates make phone calls. He twisted it to give it a nefarious meaning.

Editorializing, showing bias, is not NEWS. Why would that be ok with you?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #18
78. Obama folk just don't get it--SHE will kick their butts~~ get that~
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:32 AM
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19. MSNBC is my primary source for politics, and it will remain so. Because of one offhand comment,
you think I'm gonna quit the best political pundit source on TV? Ha.

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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. Same here. Although Schuster's comment was inexcusable...
... and while this one person deserved to be suspended, a lot of what I'm seeing here are indictments of the entire network because of its perceived anti-Clinton bias.

If we're going to blacklist networks because of one contributor's comments, why aren't we seeing people fleeing CNN, home of Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck? That vileness is much more indicative of a network-wide problem.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #20
36. Yes. And the outrage about Olbermann is strictly in the eye of the beholders.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 10:04 AM by BerryBush
He can't say anything about either Dem candidate without some supporters of that candidate seeing it as pro-the other one and against the one they support. It's not just Clinton supporters. Some Obama supporters are just as bad.

It's gotten to the point that Olbermann could say on his show "Hillary Clinton is a woman," and the reactions to that simple statement of fact would be:

"Oh! So KO is saying Hillary is a WOMAN! He MUST be implying that because she is a woman, she is unqualified to be president! How blatantly sexist can you get?"

"Oh! So KO is saying Hillary is a woman! Why didn't he then say 'Barack Obama is a man'? What has he got against Barack Obama? Why doesn't he want to talk about Obama? Is he afraid Obama might win? Why is he in the back pocket of the Clintons?"

There is absolutely nothing Olbermann can say or do, and absolutely no way he can say or do it, that someone won't interpret it as a sign of his terrible, awful bias. Worst of all, because he works at the same network as Tucker, Tweety and Joey Scars, he gets tarred with the same brush as them when it comes to making stupid, sexist remarks, which is as unfair as it would be for someone to blame you for bigoted remarks made by your coworkers.

ed. typo
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. Don't peddle that stuff here
DU'ers are adamantly opposed to media bias. Don't be surprised if you find a lot of people here who disagree with you.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:53 AM
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25. I'm surprised I have to say this, but we have to stand up to them
the media has felt for the last several years that is ok to have a double standard when covering Dems vs GOP'ers. They spread every crazy rumor the could find about Bill Clinton, yet sat silently by while Bush committed some of the most atrocious crimes in the history of the Presidency.

If we don't stand up to it, it will continue and will become worse for the next Dem president.


Normally, in the real world here at DU, we go after the news media on a regular basis for doing this kind of thing to Dems.

I'm rather surprised that Obama supporters think media bias against Democrats is acceptable. Interesting.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #25
39. Oh, nonsense.
Just because some people don't think a boycott of MSNBC makes sense doesn't mean they think media bias against Dems is "acceptable." Sheesh.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:58 AM
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30. As if CNN or the networks are any better? It's asinine


to single out one news network for the problems they ALL have.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:58 AM
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31. I am considering a letter as well. Problem is - I already turned them off since
the SC coverage - Tim Russert lecturing Bill Clinton that night was the last drop im turning me from undecided into a Hillary supporter. But I guess - this would make a good letter too.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #31
34. Many of MSNBC like Chris Matthews are GOP
so it's no surprise they will attack HRC
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #34
41. You know that? You've seen their voter registrations?
Just asking.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #34
42. Fallacious and unfounded. He was a speechwriter for Carter and
was the top aide to Tip O'Neill for six fucking years. He worked for Ed Muskie (who ran for President as a Dem) and he worked for Frank Moss (a Dem Senator)

I'm no Tweety fan, but let's not post unfactual suppositions based on "feelings".

It is possible that Tweety MAY be "formerly Dem" but in no way is Chris Matthews "GOP".

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #42
55. What Does Voting For Bush* Make You
Tweety voted for Bush*!
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #55
61. Voting for Bush once makes him a Republican?
Voting for a Repub once in your life makes you permanently a Puke? He was going to run as a Dem against Arlen Specter in 2004 - but of course, good thing you're here to warn us how Tweety is now "GOP".

And Tweety has demonstrably gotten over his man crush for Bush. There was no secret that Tweety was a long-time hater of Al Gore, and it stands to reason that that is what caused his move over to Bush. For that matter, Hillary Clinton has always hated Gore and we've all heard it's mutual.

It was pretty clear by his comments and interviews in 2004 that Tweety voted for Kerry.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #31
43. Here are a few working e/mails to msnbc..
They seem to work fine in contacting the right people regading Shuester.


email at:

letters@msnbc.com

and

multimedia@msnbc.com
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:01 AM
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35. One guy makes an unfortunate comment so let's drag the whole network down
Great idea!

:crazy:


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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #35
38. One guy does what? LMAO! The unfortunate comments are legion....
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 10:04 AM by suston96
The whole network pisses me off. Very disappointed in Keith Olbermann - now the worst person ever.

How do I contact MSNBC? I cannot seem to find the proper place to e-mail to the owners or directors of the network.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #38
47. Here are the e/mails we used contacting msnbc
They seem to work fine in contacting the right people regarding Schuester.


email at:

letters@msnbc.com

and

multimedia@msnbc.com
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #47
64. Thanks. A done deal. Here is my e-mail to MSNBC:
Keith Olbermann and his anti-Hillary Clinton bashing posse are now the worst persons in the world. I am done watching both NBC and MSNBC.

I will be notifying all forum boards where I post of my decision.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. Great, suston96.. short, sweet and to the point!
They Getit!

:toast:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:39 AM
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58. No kidding. This isn't any "one guy" event. It's a well organized witch hunt conducted by all of MSM
to stop Hillary in her tracks so the corporate powers can roam happily ever after, well for at least another 8 years under President McCain who will easily squash Obama. Once Hillary is out of the way, MSM will turn on Obama like a junkyard dog and the cult will evaporate into nothingness by November.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:04 AM
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37. You might check out FOX as an alternative
or CNN's Wolf Blitzer. I get angry with MSNBC coverage at times but prefer it immensely to the alternatives.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:24 AM
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49. I read in a bias studdy that they cover more substantive issues than the rest
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 10:24 AM by robbedvoter
and that is a sad statement about the rest of them. No amount of disgust for MSGOP< CNN and the rest will make me tune into Faux though. I'll get my news via Media Matters and Google - where I can skip the editorials - somewhat. It used to be Air merica - but that's a local Obama campaign office as well.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:18 AM
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45. Good idea. Let's all go watch Fox News.
Hillary seems to really like them for some reason. We must please our queen, after all.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:26 AM
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50. Some reason? Would this pic blow THAT reason out of the sky?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:18 AM
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46. OK, here's what I sent:
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 10:21 AM by robbedvoter
Not watching you anymore - but thanks for making me a Hillary voter

I had been trying to watch your coverage of election results for a while - because I was still respecting Keith Olberman and I enjoyed having Rachel Maddow on.
I grew increasingly uncomfortable at the level of bias in your reporting. I mean, clearly - the entire media seems to tell us the voters they want Obama to be their designated loser to GOP nominee. But your station seems to have 10 steps above all the rest.
I was an undecided voter at the time of South Carolina reporting. Then I watched your outrageous coverage - with Tim Russert arrogantly lecturing Bill Clinton - just like the good ol' Ken Starr days.
The kicker for me was your reporters bemoaning Hillary's not conceding the race she lost - just as - on the other half of the screen - SHE WAS DOING SO.
For a brief second, John Scarborough apologized about an hour later, in a statement laced with more attacks on Hillary.
Then NBC Nightly news lead with "She didn't even concede story" - as ABC News ran the concession clip.
And I don't remember any mention of Obama actually refusing to concede Nevada.
That was the last time I tuned in your channel.
The next day I became a Hillary supporter - see my statement on this dated January 27 and the references to your broadcast:
http://tinyurl.com/2rm7uj

I want to thank you for helping me make my mind - i proudly voted Hillary on Super Tuesday in great part thanks to your excesses.

I wasn't planning to let you know about it, but hearing of subsequent outrages on Super Tuesday night - I thought you might want to know the effects of your work:
losing viewers and sending voters to Hillary.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:38 AM
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56. Simply Put...yet Scathingly effective!
Thanks R/O!

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:33 AM
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53. MSNBC changed the debate rules at the last minute after telling
Kucinich he had met the criteria and inviting him to the debate. How more obvious could it be?

The American people do not need to hear about accountability/impeachment, single-payer health care, the Iran propaganda and privatization of Iraq's resources.

:sarcasm:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:35 AM
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54. Great post, althought ALL the main networks are anti-Clinton because they all want McCain to win
for obvious reasons.

MSM knows that with Hillary out of the way, McCain will breeze to victory against Obama, and then they can all continue on their merry corporate ways.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:49 AM
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60. Yes, apparently the CBC is mounting an agenda of it's own ...
that will dovetail perfectly into a natural defense for the GOP and the "Great White Hope McCain".. to thoroughly dismiss Obama as a Racist in the General Election. .Do we really want to go there? I know, I don't!

Read How dangerous Obama's ambitions will be for the rest of us:

Donna Brazile is saying: the African American community will outraged if Hillary wins the nomination


"Donna Brazile"

You may not be understanding the implication of that statement and what she means. She is saying that African American community will outraged if Hillary wins the nomination due to Super Delegates.

This is about the Congressional Black Caucus. Back on September 29, 2007, It was a CBC sponsored round table on CSPAN in which Donna Brazile, Arthur Davis and about three others were in a panel discussion. We didn’t get to see the whole thing but saw and heard enough. Unfortunately there is neither a video (even though it was obviously on tape) or transcript from the event.

It was the same weekend event to which Hillary was an invited speaker but which caused an uproar because Obama supporters in the CBC objected.

http://www.thehill.com/leading-the-news/cbcs-event-for-clinton-prompts-grumbles-2007-09-20.html

Davis’s speech at the weekend event was pretty much the same one he had delivered at other annual events about the “glass ceiling” (see the problem coming here?)

http://www.house.gov/arturdavis/2004press/glass_ceiling.html

Artur Davis RW Power Broker

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=886

The particular round table was about the future of African Americans in politics.

Not to stretch the details in the discussion beyond memory, the gist was this — everybody just couldn’t wait, including Donna and Artur, for Barack Obama to be president so that FINALLY AAs would be able to enact all the plans waiting so long for “the one” to lead.

It was a chilling undercurrent coming from Brazile and if you can't see the implication coming from Brazile on an Obama presidency, then take a step back and think a minute..

CBC’s BrainTrust’s Mission: Strangely enough, it's not about a better Life for AAs..

http://www.slepton.com/slepton/viewcontent.pl?id=891

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #60
75. whow--i will check these links out better later. thanks
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:40 AM
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62. kicked and recommended
the only reason the Obama folks are on this thread disagreeing with you is because they understand that MSNBC has been an invaluable propoganda tool for their candidate and they wish it to continue.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:41 AM
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63. Obama is 44, Tellurian. Get ready for it.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:46 PM
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68. Read on, youngblood... your candidate is getting confused
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:07 PM
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65. The Hillary people are hypocrites on this.
Olberman, Shuster, and Gregory have been the best over the last couple years. Now we want to silence them? Without them, we have almost nothing.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:49 PM
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70. They have no allegiances beyond their next paycheck..
don't get caught supporting any of them, especially when Gregory agrees to get down and "boogie" with Karl Rove at a WH function.. RED FLAG ALERT! there!
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 04:19 PM
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67. Well, there's always alternative media like "Democracy Now"
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 04:25 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 05:49 PM
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69. No. MSNBC is the best cable news network
David Schuster said something offensive and was punished. Chris Matthews is a tool. Tucker makes me ill. But MSNBC is still head and shoulders above CNN and/or Fox. Wolf Blitzer or Brit Hume? Give me a break.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:44 PM
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71. I was shocked that David Schuster made such an over the top insult; I had
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 07:48 PM by MasonJar
previously thought that he should have his own show. It is not acceptable and you would not like it if it were said about Michelle, no matter what you think. It is sexist and unfair and unjust. Why should not sons and daughters work for their parents' campaigns? The best part of the Kerry/Edwards campaign was their lovely, sophisticated children and their little precious ones (Edwards youngsters) at the campaign stops. Keith sincerely apologized and seemed truly offended that the Clintons should endure such slime. It is unconscionable. Obama stood against it; so why are his supporters on DU excusing such slanderous insinuations? Matthews has been denigrating Hillary from day one; he keeps falling for the guys..first the Tenn. granddad and then McCain and now Obama. But then Chris Matthews is not worth the powder to blow him up. I cringe every time I turn Keith on and Chris is not quite over. His smirk is so definitively Bushian.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:27 PM
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73. I couldn't have said it any better MJ...
Thanks for the great post.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:04 PM
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72. I adore Keith O but even so I have noticed a decided bias on his part
for Obama. It is fine on his nightly show for him to take sides, if he does it openly and without prejudice against women (in other words if he is clearly stating his preference and prejudice.) However, such preference is totally out of line if he is the man in charge of reporting on an election night. To attempt to sway the vote of many citizens who like both our candidates and who often have not been able to decide until entering the voting box is unprofessional. Period and that is period no matter how much any of you dislike Hillary or Obama. I will support either candidate in November; those of you who do not feel this way have no right to be on Democratic Underground.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:11 AM
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79. I have picked up his bias also lately
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #79
80. I suggest a thread about Keith's anti-Hillary bias
I watch occasionally, but not enough to have picked up on a strong bias against her. I'd like to read what other people have to say about it. I'm actually amused by the anti-Hillary bias in the liberal media, like liberal radio, because it's going to be so much fun to listen to their shows if Hillary gets the nomination. Mike Malloy called her a Nazi! After telling a woman that wrote him that he doesn't hate Hillary, and trying to act like he was the one being calm and rational. And then he said "are you going to vote for a Nazi?!" It's pretty hilarious to hear them go over the deep end like that. It's a far-left feeding frenzy. They're all so damn self-righteous about how preferable Obama is supposed to be when his votes and positions barely differ from hers. And they're as often to the right of her as not.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:29 PM
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74. This network you Hillbots hate just finished running your girl's* biography AGAIN
On a caucus day, no less. What more do you want??


(* girl - Hillary's own word for herself, not mine)
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:31 PM
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82. Luv ya Tellurian ...mean it! ..k&r/nt
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