zulchzulu
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:10 AM
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Hopefully we can all survive the Shuster comment about Chelsea by sometime next month |
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Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 11:23 AM by zulchzulu
I know it's been really hard on everyone with what Shuster said about Chelsea. We are all so down and dejected. Nothing can be more of a reason to just want to just sit around and mope all weekend.
Let's all take next week off. It still may not be enough time to recover from what David Shuster said about Chelsea, especially from those who don't have MSNBC on their cable programming.
That just makes it worse! We could have seen the comment made in real time or at least seen the repeated coverage every other hour so that we could wince with shock and outrage at the comment.
Yes, Shuster has been suspended from MSNBC. Perhaps that is not enough. Sometimes the death penalty should be used as final justice.
Clearly, having Hillary walking into the MSNBC studios after such dreadful commentary from Shuster would just be far too painful for her.
Granted, MSNBC staffers like Tucker Carlson have said loath comments about her daily African-American, black, mean, sweaty, former teen drug addict, kindergarten essayist attacker with Muslim roots whose middle name is Hussein, Barack Obama, but this comment from Shuster not only makes all the World seem like a dark place, but that perhaps the end of the World is near.
Yes, debating on the Fox News Channel is fine. Granted, that network has been less than friendly with the Clintons and Democrats in general, but they never called Chelsea a street-walking Vegas tramp on crack like David Shuster apparently either wanted to say or failed to say fully.
Yes, Fox News has been disparaging of the Clintons since its inception, but perhaps part of the healing process should be to extend the Shuster verbal blunder for at least a week's worth of media focus and then debate on Fox News. We all know Murdoch's pride and joy will never apologize for what they have said in the past.
Grab a box of Kleenex. Cry all you need to cry. This Shuster comment calling Chelsea nothing more than a whore who hath wrought evil upon the World and was responsible for Bhutto's death shall pass someday.
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:11 AM
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1. Did you give Imus a pass too? |
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:14 AM
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2. No one is giving Shuster a "pass", that much is clear. But given the scope of what is |
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going on in the world, in America, in politics, etc., the scope of continued outrage and hand-wringing here is just a WEE BIT over the top.
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:15 AM
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3. Disagree with you, and don't find it over the top at all. |
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:20 AM
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6. Considering this is the FIRST time that we have EVER seen any hand-wringing about anything |
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Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 11:21 AM by EffieBlack
around here, your point is well-taken. It's time for everyone here to stop talking about Shuster and go back to the important, critical issues that they have focused on before they were distracted by this red herring - Obama's middle name, Hillary's ankles, whose candidates' supporters hate the other candidates' supporters the most, which of the two Democratic candidates is the most evil, the most like Bush, the most likely to rip the heads off of our babies if we give them a chance, whose candidate dresses better, which candidate put their hands over their heart and which didn't - and what are the rules for putting hand over your heart anyway.
Yes, thank GOD everyone will be able to get back to their incisive, hard-hitting, analysis of the real issues facing us - as soon as they stop talking about Shuster.
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zulchzulu
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:32 AM
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9. Last I checked, Imus wasn't given a pass either... |
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Maybe it's all just a puzzle of shattered glass that can never be solved, but I seem to remember Imus getting tossed off the MSNBC network. A free pass and getting shown the door are not the same thing...right?
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zulchzulu
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:17 AM
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5. Don't even bring that up. It's just too much at this time! |
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I wanted Imus to fall into the dark void of volcanic abyss after his comment!
I wanted his head on a stick and served to the Rutgers sports department so they could find all the rage they needed to spurn the Imus satanic spell that has embraced so many of the MSNBC viewers (about 200,000 people) that heard his comment if they were actually listening to what he says.
Damn, where's that Kleenex....
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:51 AM
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11. If you consider the comments in any way equivalent, then you're not paying attention. |
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Calling a womens basketball team "nappy headed ho's" is not the same thing as pointing out that Chelsea is being used as an untouchable spokesperson for the campaign. Used effectively it seems.
Chelsea is bait being used in an attempt to attract another comment like McCain's joke that dare not speak its name. The fact that their response was so hyperbolic and coordinated indicates that they were hoping for a little more.
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:16 AM
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4. The Lady Doth Protest Too Much. |
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:21 AM
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7. if this were the first and only comment made by MSNBC, that would be one thing |
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But MSNBC is in an all-out war with the Clintons. I think it became open warfare once Bill Clinton called them on their distortions and lies and obvious bias against anything Clinton. The gloves came off and the Clinton bashing began in full force.
Schuster is a product of that mindset. He actually thought it would be ok for a "journalist" to editorialize, distort, twist, Clinton's camp making phone calls to voters (which is done daily by every other candidate) into something nefarious. He was in a culture where attacking Clinton is OK.
That is the problem with looking at Schuster's behavior in isolation.
Now, there was a time when everyone on DU was disgusted with the propaganda machine called MSM. I know that right now, your candidate is not being attacked relentlessly by the media. But, another democratic candidate is. I cannot believe that is ok with you.
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:29 AM
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8. Is it an "all-out war with the Clintons"? That would be good for the Clintons |
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An "all-out war against the Clintons" surely would be a little different.
I always find the term "attack" to be rather subjective. Is "attacking" a candidate for having to give $5 million to aid one's own campaign an "attack"? There is plenty of other evidence to bring up on the Clintons that would make for being called an "attack".
And of course not, as you alluded, Obama has never been "attacked" by MSNBC. We all know, as cult followers, that he is perfect and flawless.
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Sat Feb-09-08 11:39 AM
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10. It is stunning to me that you are actually suggesting that MSM is not biased |
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against Clinton. You are proving the point of those who suggest you are blindly following your leader without thought. YOu may want to drink less Koolaid. It apparently affects your objectivity.
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Sun Feb-10-08 12:10 AM
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12. You can thank your boy Bill for signing the Telecommunications Act |
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Thanks to Bill signing the Telecommunications Act, we have the mainstream media that has been consolidated and owned now by about 6 companies.
I work in the media. I could tell you stories about how it's basically corporatocracy being mimicked as infoganda.
You can go fuck yourself telling me about koolaid drinking. To me, supporting the Clintons at this point in time historically is the absolute height of being a sucker and a koolaid drinker.
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