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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:19 AM
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What Schuster Should Have Said "Are Clintons Sending Chelsea Out To Shuck 'n Jive"
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 11:28 AM by cryingshame
that wouldn't have bothered the Clintons or her fans at all.

”It’s not a TV crazed race. Frankly you can’t buy your way into it,” Cuomo said. “You can’t shuck and jive at a press conference,” he added. “All those moves you can make with the press don’t work when you’re in someone’s living room.”

Curious, the selective outrage.

At least the majority of O. supporters think Schuster's comment was way off base.

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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:22 AM
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1. I would wonder what the hell that means.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:23 AM
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2. Disgusting, but typical.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:25 AM
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7. it's disgusting what Hillary supporters do NOT find offensive. Most of us agree Schuster was way off
base.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:28 AM
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9. It's disgusting what Obama supporters do NOT find racist.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:23 AM
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3. The Clintons Are Sending Chelsea out...



.....to connect with the Youth.........something impossible for Hillary to do unlike Obama is awesome at...



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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:24 AM
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5. actually, that would have been too responsible for today's mediawhores.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:24 AM
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4. yeah i hate my future president for standing up to sexism. oh its so shameful i could cry
:eyes:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:30 AM
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10. but you couldn't care when Clinton surrogates throw racist crap out there?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:24 AM
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6. this thread is a crying shame
and racist to no end
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:27 AM
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8. hmm, maybe you missed Clinton surrogate Andrew Cuomo's 'shuck n jive' commentin
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 11:27 AM by cryingshame
”It’s not a TV crazed race. Frankly you can’t buy your way into it,” Cuomo said. “You can’t shuck and jive at a press conference,” he added. “All those moves you can make with the press don’t work when you’re in someone’s living room.”
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:31 AM
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11. first I've heard of it. scummy thing when he said it, scummy thing when you repeated it
he should be fired, in my opinion. we shall see what happens.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:16 PM
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18. I was shocked at first - until I read the context. NOT ABOUT CANDIDATES AT ALL
It was about retail politics primaries vs big states.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:40 AM
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12. Shuster could have said "Nappy Headed Ho'" that would have been okay, too..
:eyes: Deflect what Shuster said off onto Cuomo...who isn't a "TV Personality"...but still made a comment that all here found disgusting.

It's amazing how many of those who found "shuck and jive" offensive, though...don't have a problem witht he suggestion that Bill and Hillary are Pimps and that if they are pimps then their daughter is "whoring" for them.

That's okay with a vast majority here. But, if he'd called her a "nappy headed ho'" ...I assume that would be okay. Because she's campaigning and not a basketball star.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:42 AM
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13. Since he wasn't talking about Obama
And was talking about primaries in general, and wasn't channeling Hillary or Bill unless Cuomo is a psychic, no, I'm not offended.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:53 AM
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14. That was a dumb ass stupid thing for Cuomo to say then also
And a lot of outrage was directed at him at the time. Some Clinton supporters agreed it was an offensive phrase to use, maybe not enough, but that incident fed into a feeling by many, rightly or wrongly, that the Clinton campaign was being racially manipulative. And African America voters in particular seem to have "suspended" half of their prior support for Hillary Clinton as a consequence. Is that not enough real world pay back for you?

I no more believe that Shuster is a hard core misogynist than I believe Cuomo is a hard core racist, but I understand anger directed toward both. Both of them used phrases that one could claim now have slang definitions beyond their original origin, but both phrases are still offensive.

Still I think it fair to note that Cuomo was a partisan acting like a partisan talking about the actual opposing candidate himself. We know that things get rough in politics sometimes when campaigns are directly competing. Shuster however is a journalist who the public turns to get an outside perspective on political contests, and he demeaned not just one of the candidates directly, but her daughter as well.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:14 PM
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17. Are you aware he was not commenting on any specific candidates though?
Just comparing retail politics primaries vs big states? Iowa. NH vs Super Tuesday?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:36 PM
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19. Not really. That might reduce the level of dumbness ...
...but not totally eliminate it. Playing politics at his level he should know better in a campaign like this than to keep that phrase in his political vocabulary.

It's been used before in politics when both candidates in a contest were white, and it rarely raised an eyebrow, but that was then and this is now.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:10 PM
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15. This thread makes DU 2.83% dumber
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 12:12 PM
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16. Mind you, Cuomo was talking about early primaries in small states - both parties
and not even close about Obama at the time. And it still became subject of outrage.
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