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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:20 PM Original message |
Men, Hilllary, & the sexism no one will talk about.... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. k & r |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Hillary is shamelessly pandering to women. Could that be why.. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Shamelessly pandering to women? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. are men truly that immature? is this a fucking school yard or something? |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
98. YES (n/t) |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. it's as embarrasing as voting for the one you want to have a beer with... |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #100 |
186. as I recall geo bush held that distinction - yikes |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #100 |
187. as I recall geo bush held that distinction - yikes |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
62. Hillary shamelessly panders; Obama reaches across all divisions |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
102. How? Because she's pro-choice, pro-health care and pro-children? n/t |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:52 AM Response to Reply #102 |
109. try pro-war |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #109 |
121. ding, ding, ding |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #109 |
137. If it did matter, you would not be supporting Obama |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #137 |
149. Obama is shamelessly pro-war. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #109 |
172. She's pandering to women by being pro-war? You're making zero sense. n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
104. What if someone said that Obama was "shamelessly pandering" |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
198. No one would ever dare say Obama is "shamelessly pandering to Blacks". |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. More of this 'if you don't support hillary you're a sexist' garbage? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. you apparently did not bother to even read the OP n/t |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I did. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. you may have read it, but apparently did not comprehend it. n/t |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. In the poster's own words: |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
122. the Hbots |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
103. From the FIRST LINE of the OP, it's clear that's not the case. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:14 AM Response to Reply #103 |
111. That first line |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #111 |
171. Sorry, but I don't trust your mind reading abilities. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #171 |
182. But you do trust the mind reading abilities of the author |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #103 |
184. But then she goes right on to say |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:23 PM Original message |
k&r, just for the guts you had to post the truth! Good Job! |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. Excellent post! |
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oldtime dfl_er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. I suppose we'll find out |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Yes that's certainly true |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
191. Please don't even think it or even type it |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Men vote their wallet. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Then they should be R's. They are the $$$$ party. |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. usually that happens but unlikely this time. McCain will win slightly more male voters |
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toadzilla (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
54. well gee, if theyre the $$$$ party, then why are we all going broke? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
192. It does make a person wonder, doesn't it. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Worse yet. She reminds them of mother. Boys these days resent |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
118. You know... |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
124. it took a "boy" for |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. K & R |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. I was right there with ya...... |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
194. What red area do you live in? |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:25 PM Original message |
dupe |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. K & R. I have been surprised at the level of sexism. |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. Women voting for Clinton overwhelmingly: YAY! Men voting for Obama: SEXIST! |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. that's not what was said -- but spin away |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. She comes to the conclusion that men are hating Clinton for being strong |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. personnally I would say |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #52 |
125. women voting for HRC because |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
74. you might be able to say that when we've had 43 female/non-white presidents. nt |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #74 |
119. Seems quite able to say it now... n/t |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
157. Silence! Prepare to be assimilated! |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
177. it seems that ANYONE voting against HRC is sexist.... I'm a white woman (50) - GOBAMA!!! |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. This is a broad brush flamer, |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
127. exactly, totally agree |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #127 |
188. What Offices Would Be Appropriate for a Spouse to Run For While Married to a Governor & President? |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. Hillary is the personification of the problems every American woman has ever faced in this society. |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
58. I believe that welfare reform was necessary. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
113. So in case case it takes a village |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
189. Am I seriously seeing "welfare queen" BS on DU? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
112. Excellenmt post! |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
159. WOW you get it. Some of us "small head thinkers" have done our home work. The Clintons fans |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
15. Sigh. I don't hate Hillary for her strength. I do not see her as a strong woman. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. maybe their marriage isn't for you to judge? maybe she has different ideas... |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. I'm entitled to my opinion without a personal attack from you. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. just disabusing you of the notion that "you weren't judging" her ...as you most certainly |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
179. You don't know why she chose to stay married to Bill. Maybe she did it for Chelsea? Maybe she loves |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
129. and she stayed with him because |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #129 |
147. When she moved to AK with Bill...He wasn't star power. He just |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #129 |
151. And you know this how? |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #129 |
165. When Bill was in the White House |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #129 |
180. They moved to Arkansas so Bill could become a country lawyer. They had NOTHING when they moved there |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #129 |
193. Plus she has put across an increasingly garbled message: |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
150. I guess you'd hate my mother, too, then, for staying with my Dad when he strayed. |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
174. Hmmmmm. . . . |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
200. Oh, you're one of those Dr. Phil types all up in everyone's personal business. |
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CaptJasHook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
16. I really don't understand why so many Progressives |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
173. Jeebus. Another newbie chump who just wants to talk ISSUES! |
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CaptJasHook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. Thank for calling me Kid |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Hey, anybody with fewer than 1000 posts is a "kid" |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
17. Sexism is still very much alive in this country |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
169. When Bill Clinton won his first term |
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thesubstanceofdreams (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. Men are not going to Obama 2 to 1 |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. esxcellent article in nyt several weeks ago on this subject: |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
21. GREAT OP! This thread sadly will be full of sexist posts though. |
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thesubstanceofdreams (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Anyone who disagrees = sexist |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
85. Yeah. That is what the post said. Did you read the first part |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #85 |
130. the first part was like a snide aside |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #130 |
140. Road Bill's coat-tails? He never would have been elected without her |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. I have done reading because I was an ardent |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #130 |
181. Where did you copy your little mantra from? A book |
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CaptJasHook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Yep All male progressives are sexist, racist bastards trying to |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
22. You make some valid points |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
24. Bill Maher didn't help last night...... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Yeah, uhm, you know, cause the 60's never happened or anything. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Bill Maher's contempt for women is well documented |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. so I should support Clinton because Maher's an asshole? nt |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. That's just so fucking stupid...... |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. well, then what is really being said by the OP. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. It would be unfair for me to state what the OP |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
158. Colfax Massacre -- Louisiana, 1873: 280 black men massacred for attempting to vote. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:16 AM Response to Reply #24 |
199. If you are going to criticize Maher at least get the joke right. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. One of the best posts EVER. Thank you! |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. So, sexist if they do, racist if they don't |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
28. what are your thoughts on Bills' sexism towards women? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. Bill's not running..... |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Hillary's not a representative of women, but of corporations |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Can't make up your mind which pile of bullshit to sling? n/t |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. that's what I respect about Hillary supporters. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
31. You had me until you started bashing Obama and his voters |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. that's because the underlying message of the whole OP is... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
35. LOL! To bad there isn't a LAME rating button for posts like these |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. nice of you to post and kick a thread you think is lame! |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
93. I am having flashbacks of dealing with right wing a-holes |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
63. I believe there is both sexism and racism in both campaigns. |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
36. Could it be that Obama is the superior candidate, and a number of women vote for Clinton |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
40. this is such crap |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
78. Bullshit |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #78 |
131. Deleted message |
Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. I'm not sure the case can be made that easily. |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
46. I'm glad you said it. I have believed all along that it is sexism |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
87. I said that (among other people)... |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
196. My father has always said that we'd |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
56. "And, many men (and some women) downright hate her for it. " - the nut of the problem here. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
57. And wait for it....it's coming..... |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #57 |
132. no one is looking for perfection |
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Unbowed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
64. To me, Obama is the better candidate based on his record and his ideas. |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
65. Yes there is seixm in America yes there is racism. It's not a reason to vote a flawed candidate. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
67. Another GDP thread suggests it was Hillary, parroted by Coulter, as being "our girl". |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. That is not sexist. You don't say it's sexist when "our guy" is used. |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
68. People are wrapping all their emotion in Hillary and not seeing her poor judgement or porr financial |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
69. What a bunch of crap |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
133. ditto |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:48 PM Original message |
Or, people simply don't trust her |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
70. Or, people simply don't trust her |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
92. Well put - and succinct. The mirror opposite of what it was posted in reply to. |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
72. word. nt |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
73. the real question is- |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
75. Had you left out the anti-Barack rant, this would have been a great post...but |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
76. The OP starts out OK, then goes kind of nuts towards the end. |
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awaysidetraveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
77. So Obama supporters are more sexist than they are racist? That doesn't follow. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
79. Apparently,. many Democrats are sexist... |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
97. Many Democrats ARE sexist... |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
81. I just think this is a vacant argument |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Tired argument. Right. No sexism. Sure. |
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SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
82. Excellent post, debbierlus ... thanks. k&r |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
84. Apparently many of the Obama supporters can't read. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
86. Only one problem with your Clinton analysis. You forgot to include that she cheats and she lies. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Oh please...show me a politician that doesn't |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #88 |
126. Capitulation to the Bush-Cheney torture agenda is not "political gamesmanship." |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
89. K and R |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
90. Sexism is voting for Hillary because she's a woman. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #90 |
134. Touche, TO |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
91. Here's your straw man. |
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CalGator (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #91 |
105. Couldn't agree more |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
94. WOO HOOO K AND R! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
95. Deleted message |
Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
96. Hillary - like most women - is damned if she does, and damned if she doesn't... |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
99. Way to play the gender card..... poorly that is |
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ShadowLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
101. Sexism is hurting her I agree, but don't blame Obama for being more liked because of it |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:12 AM Response to Reply #101 |
115. Why should that hurt her? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
106. Her campaign went from being "inevitable" nominee to neck-and-neck |
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noac7 (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
107. Great Post |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
108. I don't hate her. I hate Kyl-Lieberman and cluster bombs |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #108 |
138. well put, it's not her gender |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
110. Horse Crap.... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:21 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Stop! You're being rational!! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
116. Could one say people who don't support Obama don't due to racism? |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
117. So... |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
120. If you're saying she's running on one issue, her gender, |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #120 |
123. p.s. the sexism no one will talk about is about all Hilly supporters talk about. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
128. The irony is thick |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
135. I agree completely. |
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Yurovsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
136. Strong women don't ride on the backs of their husbands ... |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #136 |
139. exactly |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #136 |
141. Come off it....she was a partner in his entire Presidency |
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andrewv1 (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #141 |
144. Do you want to win the General Election or do you want to make a point? |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #141 |
146. Thank you for the OP and for this thread |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #141 |
161. Except for NAFTA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, etc... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #136 |
152. Wait, because she has a powerful husband, she should just fade into the background? |
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From The Left (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
143. Bump |
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D-Sooner (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
145. That's your opinion |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
148. And if Obama were losing we would be seeing articles about why people won't vote for blacks |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
153. Quite honestly, I do not believe all women "live the principles of |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
154. You yourself say that there are "a bunch of legitimate reasons not to vote for Hillary Clinton" |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
155. If Hillary can't stand up to perceived sexism, |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
156. Its still accetable to be sexist |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
160. By your same logic, Hillary supporters are RACIST! |
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Chalco (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
162. Sexism is deeper than racism. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #162 |
190. WE NEED A WOMAN NOW? Cynthia McKinney then. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
163. the entire Hoboken,NJ Fire Department voted for her...not a firefem amongst them |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
164. "the sexism no one will talk about"? |
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EndElectoral (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
166. Hogwash! I'd vote for Barbara Boxer in a sec. HRC's war rhetoric, big insurance corp contributions |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. Barbara Boxer works for me. |
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gorekerrydreamticket (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #167 |
183. Me too...n/m |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
168. Your post stinks and shows a complete lack of respect towards the Amercan people |
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From The Left (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Agreed. |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
178. Sorry Debberlius but as a woman over 50 who voted for Obama it was the war, not her gender. |
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Malidictus Maximus (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
185. Don't "Hate" her |
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hertopos (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
195. K&R thank you, you said it all |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
197. you are correct |
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