Brace yourselves, Clinton supporters. She is not going to win

[mudesi]

The insiders are going to ask her to drop out very soon after McCain locks his nomination. Obama not only clearly has the momentum in the primary, but he is also the obvious winner when put up ageist McCain.

In the general election, he will take all the blue states, simply because he is the Democrat, and he has proven without a doubt now that he can also win some red states in a general election, unlike Clinton.

I'm disappointed that it came to this choice between Clinton and Obama, since Kucinich or Edwards never really had a chance thanks to the corporate media. But Clinton is by far the worse of the two, and I'm glad to see that she will lose.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

1. He's the obvious loser against McCain. The Superdelegates know this.

[Windy]

8. You really are a bit delusional aren't you... nt

[thunder rising]

That's was a secret between you&them I suppose. And now you've leaked it. No integrity

[calteacherguy]

18. Step. Away. From. The. Kool-Aid. Now. nt

[Yael]

26. You can't buy this kind of entertainment

:D

[OneBlueSky]

45. flash! . . . neither one of them will beat McCain . . .

why? . . . because the Republicans control the voting machines! . . . the Democrats have had at least two years to do something to return the election process to the people, but they've done nothing . . . just as they did in 2000 and 2004, the Republicans are ready to fix the vote count in enough states to insure that McCain wins no matter who the Democratic nominee is . . .

Empire America's Bread and Circuses
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/02/09/empire_america_s_bread_and_circuses

(snip) . . .

Since the last election, which was won by Kerry, but was blatantly fixed to give Bush still another undeserved four years in the White House, America's electronic electoral system has been left untouched by significant reform or the imposition of any rational governmental control over it. There is no federal oversight whatsoever over the new electronic voting systems! Not only that, state after state continues buying huge numbers of corruptible Diebold and ES & S voting machines from the infamous Bob Urosevich and his brother Todd.

(snip)

Not only that, the voting machines are all linked at any given voting station. This makes it possible to change the program in one machine in about 60 seconds thusly making it a master machine and all the rest of the machines slaves. In short, in 60 seconds, an entire voting station, no matter how big, can be reprogrammed to give the election to a specified candidate.

Exit polls proved that massive vote fraud occurred in Ohio and the election was arrogantly stolen from Kerry. With gross arrogance, Ohio officials still have not corrected this situation. Worse yet, other states have been massively buying and installing Diebold and ES & S machines.

(snip)

The Dems have done almost nothing to initiate a reform of the system. Pelosi et al seem fearful of even mentioning the problem. Huge numbers of Diebold machines have been bought and installed all over America for the coming election. Very few states have moved to do much about it. California is one of the few states taking meaningful measures, and there has been some fussing in a few other states, but the picture as a whole looks very bad. In some states, efforts are being made to ban all electronic voting, but these efforts are having little or no success.

- more . . .

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/02/09/empire_america_s_bread_and_circuses

[Arkana]

2. Don't do this. Please.

[neutron]

15. if you think Clinton people are going to support your hype gas candidate

in the unlikely event that he wins, you are so dead wrong.

And if you would like to know why, just look at yourself in the
mirror, and jack off.

I personally do not want a president with operatives that scuzz
around the web like this bunch.

[Arkana]

20. Ahahahaha.

And here I was trying to stop a fellow Obama supporter from being overconfident.

I should have known better, shouldn't I? You Hillary people are just all CLASS! I mean, how could I have been so stupid? Really! Sending your ex-president husband around the country to make vaguely-racist statements about your opponent, running on said husband's record for the GOOD aspects of his Presidency (but "I'm not my husband" for the bad ones), and deliberately lying about his record in mass mailers is an AWESOME campaign strategy!

:sarcasm:

[DB1]

31. Back in the real world, WA caucus, both camps volunteered support...

for the others candidate in the general. We are through with the republicans! It is just a few here on DU that are whacked and so wound up that the can't see the forest for the trees.

[BanzaiBonnie]

33. The caucus in our district

was wonderfully civil and upbeat. EVERYONE agreed that it was a difficult decision to make between Clinton and Obama.

[DB1]

35. Yes, isn't it great. We have two excellent candidates.

I am very happy to be a democrat, and as a bonus I get to be a county delegate for Obama. First time for that!

[Windy]

Oh dear.....you're rubbing salt in an open wound tonight...

:popcorn:

[Name removed]

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[RL3AO]

4. At least wait until Ohio or Penn.

to start talking dropout. That is if Obama sweeps until then.

[Eurobabe]

44. PA is way too late to matter, 4/22

We should know by mid-March. IMHO. YMMV.

[Maat]

5. I hope that you're right ...

'cause I'm an Obama supporter (was a Kucinich voter, then for Edwards, now for Obama).

:)

[Skittles]

6. you are way, WAY too optimistic

perhaps you've forgotten the last two presidential elections were stolen

[AJH032]

7. how has he proven without a doubt that he can win red states?

just because he won the Dem primaries there, going up against other Dems? Very strange logic.

[mudesi]

13. Republicans, independents, and conservative Democrats are voting for him

Those people are not lock step Republicans, and they dislike McCain. But they absolutely hate Clinton.

[LittleBlue]

9. I don't see how she can win, even if she takes big states.

Her margins in those states are too close. Obama will win huge in the smaller but more numerous states. I don't see Hillary winning Texas by a significant enough margin to take many more delegates. It was 55-45 ten days ago, and Obama certainly has gained ground.

[cbayer]

10. Not recommended. No value

[Mojambo]

11. I disagree with you that this is over.

But it was another fine night for Senator Obama.

[DemGa]

12. False. And I'll save this for a big fat I told you so.

I'll even "turn it up."

[ananda]

14. Dawg..

I'm not a big Clinton fan, but I was hoping
the delegate race would be close enough for
Edwards to be an important factor and influence
on the ultimate nominee.

Sigh.

[frogcycle]

16. I am not a supporter of either

and I am offended by your post

just stfu, for cripes sakes

nobody needs your gloating, or prognosticating, or whatever the fuck it is. It serves no purpose whatsoever, except I guess to satisfy some perverse urge you have to be offensive. What, do you have no flies off from which to pull the wings?

[LibraLiz1973]

17. I think he is the worse choice of the two

but that isn't saying much. (IMHO)
But, I agree with what you said. She can't win.

It isn't going to happen.

[Birthmark]

19. Either way it goes...

...say hello to President McCain.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

21. Very nice - nice to also see that 9 people recommended the thread.

Exactly why Edwards and Clinton supporters are so turned off by the Obama supporters.

[Yael]

30. Please don't speak for "Edwards supporters"

Thanks

[Tarheel_Dem]

32. ditto...doesn't speak for me either.

But, I will say that these gloating threads usully devolve into nothing more than an all-out flamefest. That being said, GOBAMA!

[Kermitt Gribble]

34. She can speak for this Edwards supporter. n/t

[rodeodance]

36. ha ha--They REALLY are into themselves aren't they

[mmonk]

22. Hope you have been prepared for

[NastyRiffraff]

23. Oh look! An ignore button!

I love those things.

[Yael]

24. I hear you. I thought John would take it

Gobama.

:)

[burythehatchet]

25. fucking-A

[AX10]

27. I'll abstain.

[ZinZen]

28. Wee too soon to run victory laps around Hillary

at least wait and see if Obama continues his momentum through March.

[hill08]

29. considering that this forum is not read by the public at large

why do you need this propaganda that is totally unsupported by facts or evidence?

[rodeodance]

37. maybe IP gets a kickback??

[underpants]

38. Not sure about that just yet chief

It does look that way but no chickens to count (and I know you weren't) just yet.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

39. how many red states will McCain win?

[Name removed]

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[smalll]

41. "The insiders are going to ask her to drop out very soon after McCain locks his nomination."

More "false hope" from the Obamatrons.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

42. Hey Lyny Skyny. Drunk Again?

:rofl:

[see_key]

43. Clinton will get 73 pledged delegates in Michigan

Hillary Rodham Clinton will get the lion's share of Michigan's Democratic national convention delegates after winning the state's Jan. 15 presidential primary.

Clinton will get 73 pledged delegates after winning 55 percent of the statewide vote, the Michigan Democratic Party said Friday in a release.

Another 55 delegates will be officially uncommitted to any candidate since 40 percent of the Democratic voters chose uncommitted on the ballot. Because Barack Obama and John Edwards had taken their names off the ballot, many of their supporters voted for uncommitted in the hopes of winning some delegates to the national convention


http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/politics-1/1202521446263830.xml&storylist=newsmichigan