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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:54 PM
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David Seaton: "Why do Peggy Noonan, George Will and David Brooks favor Obama?"
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Friday, February 08, 2008
Why do Peggy Noonan, George Will and David Brooks favor Obama?


Peggy Noonan, who wrote some of Reagan's best speeches, is the right wing's Maureen Dowd: Irish, beautiful, witty, subtle and dangerous. In today's Wall Street Journal, she joins such arch-conservative pundits as George Will and David Brooks in praising Barack Obama and favoring him for the Democratic nomination.

"(Obama) is the un-Edwards and un-Huckabee -- an adult aiming to reform the real world rather than an adolescent fantasizing mock-heroic "fights" against fictitious villains in a left-wing cartoon version of this country." - George Will
"The Kennedys and Obama hit the same contrasts again and again in their speeches: the high road versus the low road; inspiration versus calculation; future versus the past; and most of all, service versus selfishness." - David Brooks

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to smell a rat here. To me it's perfectly obvious that the right wing is licking their chops in anticipation at facing Obama. Read this from Noonan's piece:

"He will be hard to get at, hard to address. There are many reasons, but a primary one is that the fact of his race will freeze them. No one, no candidate, no party, no heavy-breathing consultant, will want to cross any line--lines that have never been drawn, that are sure to be shifting and not always visible--in approaching the first major-party African-American nominee for president of the United States. He is the brilliant young black man as American dream. No consultant, no matter how opportunistic and hungry, will think it easy--or professionally desirable--to take him down in a low manner."

Now, obviously it would be absurd to apply this criteria to Karl Rove or any of his understudies and acolytes ... If you know how to read Noonan, she is calling in the hit. That is going to be the campaign. I think it would be childlike to believe that Karl Rove hasn't done his homework already.. They are drooling in anticipation. Why do they "like" Obama so much? Because they are terrified of Hillary Clinton, that's why... It is this simple: in recent decades the Clintons are the only Democrats that win elections against Republicans... They don't want to ever face them again, no more complicated than that...

More: http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com/2008/02/why-do-peggy-noonan-george-will-and.html

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:57 PM
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1. K & R!
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 11:58 PM by AX10
They want to face someone who will play nice.

Noonan is the right wing Dowd, but both are as ugly as a horse's ass.
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hill08 Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:58 PM
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2. race wil not freeze them
When black republicans attack Obama, no one will be able to accuse them of racism
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:01 AM
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7. You mean the black pundits...
like Armstrong, who were caught taking cash to hawk the Bush Administrations policies?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:59 PM
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3. Why do Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity favor Hillary?

George Will, Peggy Noonan, and David Brooks

vs

Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity



Which trio represents the most rabid and extreme of the right-wing?



You lose again, Bidenista.
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hill08 Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:01 AM
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5. nice try
Coulter, Limbaugh and Hannity never praised Clinton. Never ever
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:02 AM
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8. ...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:05 AM
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13. Watch that Youtube Link! Ann Coulter endorsing Hillary...
...
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:04 AM
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12. Coulter pledged on CNN that "If McCain is our nominee, I will endorse Hillary. I will work for her"
Rush Limbaugh said the same on his radio program this week.


Hannity said that he would advocate for Hillary if McCain was the nominee.


You're simply wrong.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:22 AM
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18. Uh oh. Better check your facts on that one.
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:08 AM
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14. you left out bill kristol:
"Obama," said the Weekly Standard editor, "is becoming the antiwar candidate, and Hillary Clinton is becoming the responsible Democrat who could become commander in chief in a post-9/11 world."
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:08 AM
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15. Rush has asked his dittoheads to send money to Hillary
because he thinks that Obama will be unstoppable.


Rush Limbaugh is ready to do his part for the GOP by putting on his own fundraiser. Even if that fundraiser is for the only politician that he believes can unite his party - Hillary Clinton.

RUSH: All right, folks, I need to ask you a question, personal question from me to you. Do I sound like I need cheering up here? I'm getting e-mails from friends, "Boy, you sound like you could use a little cheering up." And they're sending me these stupid little Internet jokes, "for you to smile," like an Internet joke would cheer me up. Spam would cheer me up. But do I sound like I need to be cheered up? I can't wait 'til the Drive-Bys get hold of my thought, my consideration of helping Hillary raise money. They'll miss the reason. They'll just publicize, "Limbaugh is so upset at Romney getting out, he's thinking of raising money for Hillary, period."


But the reason for raising money for Hillary is because that apparently my party is relying on fear and loathing of Hillary to get the nomination, to unite Republicans, who are, some of them, off the reservation. The Republicans do not seem to be relying on leadership in their party to unite the party. They seem to be relying on all these external things, nobody is going to vote for Hillary, negative turnout factor. What if she's not the nominee? We've got make sure she's the nominee if the Republican Party is to be unified. What more loyal thing could I do than to run a fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton? You watch, though, you watch how that will be questioned.



And then he added these little gems:

RUSH: She just polarizes people. I think she's going to gin up enough anti-Hillary turnout out there to perhaps be a boon to whoever the Republican nominee is.


CALLER: Absolutely.

RUSH: Now, if Obama is the nominee, we are doomed, and you should get ready and prepared for it now.

CALLER: I agree.

RUSH: I'm going to tell you something else that's going to happen. In addition to all this emotion that Hillary's going to revive in people, all this, "I don't care, I'm not going to vote for that woman," you know she's going to redefine negative turnout. You know she is polarizing. I'm going to tell you what's going to happen. It's already started, I pointed this out. Last week after one of the primaries, Anna Quindlen, Newsweek magazine, "How Old is Too Old?" she laid the foundation for the Drive-Bys' eventual turning on McCain as an old guy getting older.

I want to predict to you that once he's got this sewn up you're going to see the Drive-By Media start doing stories on his age, and they're not going to be mean, they are not going to be vicious, they're going to be almost sorrowful. Somebody wrote about this in American Thinker today, too, and I can't remember the name. I think I've got it here in the Stack, but take a look at some of the pictures from last night on television.

Here you had McCain, you've got an aging senator here, and an aging governor, gray-haired governor there, you've got old people, gray-haired, blue-haired Bloody Mary gang, women, blue hair in the hives and so forth, you've got pearls and so forth. You contrast that to the Obama crowd that is youthful, it's energetic, it wasn't stoic. I am telling you, if that doesn't work, they're going to go after this age business, and they'll do it almost regretfully. We're going to get the worst pictures of McCain. We're going to get him looking tired. We're going to hear references to his forgetfulness. "Isn't it just a shame?" And if that doesn't work, then they're going to do stories on the fact he's nuts. Just mark my words. Mark my words and don't doubt me.


http://leftinaboite.blogspot.com/2008/02/right-wingers-fear-obama.html
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:59 PM
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4. Fresh Start is the GOP meme
I'm beginning to think the GOP is not only funding Obama's campaign, they're running it, too.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:03 AM
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10. Grow up.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:01 AM
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6. k
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:02 AM
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9. Why is David Seaton blind?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:04 AM
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11. I don't care what they think
I will not base my vote on the idle speculations of the RW media pundits.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:11 AM
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16. Sorry, but I stopped reading when Seaton referred to Noonan as "beautiful" and "witty"
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 12:11 AM by mitchum
Why should I waste precious time reading an analysis by someone who obviously can't even observe?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:16 AM
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17. They just want to be part of the cult.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 12:17 AM by BullGooseLoony
There's a good healthcare plan. :)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:32 AM
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19. With Peggy, it could be jungle fever. She's always horndogging politicians.
And finally, she latches on to a hot one.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:50 AM
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20. "Please, don't throw me into that briar patch." ...
sound familiar?
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:45 AM
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21. Terrified of Hillary? HAHAHAHAHAHA
The most polarizing figure in the Democratic party? Get real.
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