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Sun Feb-10-08 01:59 AM
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Remeber? "By October, Obama will fizzle." |
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"He's naive and inexperienced." "He should have waited till 2016." "There is no way Obama will beat Hillary." "Debates will take Obama out." "America is not ready for a black president." "Obama simply can't win in the GE."
Those were the things many around here were saying last year. Especially between June and October. Many of you were completely dismissive of the idea of Hillary and Obama going toe to toe after Super Tuesday. Barack Obama beating Hillary Clinton for the nomination? We, Obama supporters, were kids that didn't know what we were getting into... after all, young people and big crowds mean nothing in politics... movement candidates never win...
Welcome to February 10, 2008. Obama is basically tied with Hillary, and he just cleaned her clock on 3 states and 1 territory on one night. He's got the money. He's got the momentum. He's about to win.
Now you've got to admit it: "I was wrong. This guy Obama is the real deal." Even if he loses, he just showed you he IS a force...
Gobama!
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:01 AM
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1. I saw you post some posts conceding that Hillary would win. |
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.... and deep down, you know Obama will never be president.
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:45 AM
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9. There is a deep and almost cancerous sickness inside some people here... |
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...and every once in a while, it leaches through their skin.
Ugly.
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:55 AM
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:03 AM
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3. Do you think she even guessed that she would be in race this tight |
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after Super Tuesday? Did she underestimate him?
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:05 AM
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4. Absolutely. She expected everything to be over by Feb. 5th |
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Sun Feb-10-08 05:53 AM
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and my guess is that she is NOT happy.
Off with his head!
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Sun Feb-10-08 05:57 AM
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15. fine by me and many others |
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Hillary and the DLC not being happy after the primaries can only be a good thing.
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:26 AM
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5. In Austin Tx a year ago he drew 20,000 to a rally in the rain. |
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:41 AM
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6. I thought they'd be in a three way race for some time |
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Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 02:43 AM by TexasObserver
I never thought Hillary would break 40% overall, and never thought she'd be ahead at this point. I expected Edwards, Obama, and Clinton to be spliting states about a third each, with some variations, as Edwards picked up all the people who didn't want Obama or Clinton. I didn't think John would fizzle as he did. I thought he'd get up around 25-30% and hang around, garnering delegates. I thought Hillary and Obama would do slightly better.
I expected the race to go on until into April or beyond. I expected Obama or Edwards to prevail, and Hillary to fade, mainly because she is not liked by a majority of the party.
But I never realized how popular Obama would be, and how good his organization would be. This is the story that is most underreported. These kids are so far ahead of their Baby Boomer counterparts in the Clinton campaign. Clinton is stuck in the 1990s, running a campaign that is simply unable to fathom what the younger, more tech savvy Obama supporters are doing.
This is a young lion that has arrived to run off the old lion, and even the old lion realizes he's on his way off the throne.
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:44 AM
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8. I'm incredibly surprised by his organizational skills at winning many of the states he won esp Iowa |
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Sun Feb-10-08 03:00 AM
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11. Me, too. I thought Iowa might have been a fluke, but it was no fluke. |
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These kids are good, and I'm so proud of the two generations who are stepping up now to do this - the 18-30 and the 31-49 generations. It's time for Boomers, of which I am one, to turn the reins of power in the country and the future of the party over to them.
We've had our time. We've had 16 years of the White House. The party and the country need this change to the next generations. We have to stand down, and they have to stand up.
Anyone over 50 years old should accept that this is a part of life, this turning over to the following generations. It's egotistical to think it can't all go without us at the helm, driving.
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Sun Feb-10-08 06:32 AM
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16. Wait till the GE McCain won't kno w what hit him. Polls have undersetimated his upport so far. |
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Sun Feb-10-08 06:45 AM
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We can be gracious and supportive of our youth or we can be ugly and battle this age transition, but if we do the second, everybody loses.
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Sun Feb-10-08 02:42 AM
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Barack Obama WILL BE the next President of the United States. :)
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Sun Feb-10-08 05:47 AM
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I don't remember that at all
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Sun Feb-10-08 05:48 AM
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13. Perhaps some of us Obama supporters (including myself) weren't sufficiently optimistic for a while |
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I still can't help waiting for when the press starts doing to Obama what they did to Dean.
But if Obama gets to the WH (about an even bet at least at this point), for the FIRST time in my memory (I'm over 50), there'll be a president I genuinely admire. I still think that this country needs to have organizing at the grassroots for a sharp change leftword, especially on environmental policy. And anti-imperialism. But at least President Obama would seriously start (as Bill Clinton, other than balancing the budget, didn't) leading this country at least in a progressive DIRECTION.
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Sun Feb-10-08 06:50 AM
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18. And--when Hillary runs--DU will be a goldmine for Republican operatives. Thanks, guys! |
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Sun Feb-10-08 06:55 AM
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19. Skinner runs DU. We're all just visiting. |
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21. Far out. When Skinner sez jump, we don't ask how high. |
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Sun Feb-10-08 07:06 AM
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22. all this wishful thinking would be good fun if it weren't about |
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the future of America. Any reasonable person realizes that running a black nominee is great risk and Dems just cannot take that chance. Not this year.
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Sun Feb-10-08 08:14 AM
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23. Hillary is a bigger GE risk than Obama..... |
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to any "reasonable" person.
No female in the country is more hated by such large diverse groups of people.
Her "solid core" of supporters is less than 1/4 of the country.
More than 1/2 of the country WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
She's poison as a candidate.
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