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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:49 AM Original message |
Think I exaggerate about Florida's attitude? Here's a county chairperson's rant against Dean. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. Just Seat The Delegates. It's The Right Thing To Do In The Face Of Record Voter Turnout. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That will not happen until the nominee is chosen. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Tell them the delegates will be seated then and end the silly stand-off! |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. Superdelegates could chose to seat them if Obama doesn't want to. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. "To deny those people their voice would be a disgrace." |
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WilyWondr (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Have you ever heard of rules? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The legislature did that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. Not true. The state party knew and went along for over a year. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Sorry, But The Voices And Intent Of 1.7 MILLION Voters Is A Bit More Relevant To Me. |
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WilyWondr (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Why did they change the date |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Well, I'm Not One To Disenfranchise 1.7 Million Voters Because Of The Mistakes Of A Few. |
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WilyWondr (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. A few? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Yay. This Stupid Fucking Argument Again. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Yes, you are right. They wanted to be "relevant"...link. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. What about the other, millions of voters in the country whose |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. He is a good man who cares about our party and country. Florida cares about Florida |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. That is the same argument used in 2000 |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. And "rules are rules" was the very same argument used in 2000 |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Horse Shit. |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Right! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Horseshit Back At Ya. Don't Disenfranchise 1.7 Million Voters Who Let Their Voices Be Known Loudly. |
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WilyWondr (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Did the FL legislature get 1.7 million |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. That's Such A Stupid Argument And You Know It. n/t |
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WilyWondr (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Because it is not your side of the argument? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. No, Because It Is Quite Simply A Really, Really, Stupid Argument. n/t |
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Abacus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Why? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Yes, why? Please tell us why it is a stupid argument. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. If Someone Thinks That The Populace Of Florida Would Really Understand Enough About The Political |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Then call me a friggin moron. Because I believe people will understand... |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. N.J. Bosses & The N.J. Machine Endorsed HRC in April,2007. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. No |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. That's A Crock Of Shit, And I Don't Buy It For A Second. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. I live here |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I'd Wager Much Of Those 10 Wouldn't Have Voted Anyway, And Are Using That As Convenient Excuse. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I don't know if it would |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Do you really think Hillary's folks here would let that happen now? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. I'm thinking that doing what the Republicans did - count half of them |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. Can you explain Florida Democrats to me? |
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ZinZen (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
6. I think Howard is on the right side of history |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. There was a nice post at Kos yesterday... |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
42. Kpete posted it here this morning. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Thanks. I missed that. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Giving blacks and hispanics an important voice in the nominee was brillant. |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Nelson could try being a Democrat, for a change... |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
8. Their party leaders knew the rules and broke them; now it's apparent they did a stupid thing |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Exactly! It is the voters responsibility to hold their elected leaders |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. That's not very nice for |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Someone suggested cutting the state off and letting it drift. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. As opposed to the people who launched Nixon and Reagan on their national careers, |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Touche' |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
17. FLA & Michigan will be seated: According to the FINAL NATIONAL Vote Tally |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
19. With apologies to any Floridians here, |
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ctaylors6 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. you came very close to owing me a new computer screen |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
27. The Dems want to lose Florida and Michigan in the GE |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. No, that is just not true. It would have made Hillary inevitable if it counted. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. I take it you don't know about Michigan's Republican machine, |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. What if the DNC comes up with the money themselves? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Oh, a tiny little thing called Michigan law. It would have to be changed. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. It is my understanding that we could still have a caucus. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. If MI is making Dean a laughing stock, then they are as shameful as FL |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Not Dean - his name is never mentioned. Just Democrats. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
38. I would equate the seating of those delegates with theft |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. As Far As I'm Concerned... JUST SCRATCH THEM!! Florida Just Isn't |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
53. All I Want To Say Is That I LIVE In Florida & I Support Howard Dean!! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
57. More stuff from Florida media....interesting even if skewed. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. I like this part... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I was not sure about that part either. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
67. If the Dem Party ever wants Florida to vote Dem again they'd better compromise |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Florida should stop with the threats. It is sounding childish now. |
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