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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:56 PM
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Hillary's flippant attitude towards non-blue states just shows why she's so divisive
The principle behind the "50 State Strategy" is not to win everywhere, but to be competitive so that you at least force your opponents to pay attention to areas that they may thought were automatically in their column. Also, though it may not result in immediate victories, it could build grassroots support that may turn red areas into blue areas in a generation or so. Obama may not win in Kansas, but if he can put enough pressure on McCain, maybe McCain can't spend as much time in Missouri or California, and will have to keep visiting the Midwest.

What Hillary envisions is the continued entrenchment of blue and red states, and the complete irrelevance of any state that's not Florida or Missouri in every presidential election cycle. I don't know about you, but I'm tired of the presidency depending on a few indecisive nitwits in Ohio. Obama, on the other hand, can change that. He can begin the drastic redrawing of the political map, a sort of deClintonizing of national politics if you will. Maybe he won't be able to win Kansas in 2008, but maybe his successor in 8 years can.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:03 PM
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1. BamBam's flippant attitude toward the boomers, the Hispanics, Asians, women, and the working class,
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:04 PM by Iceburg
is the reason why he will never will a BIG Blue state nor a Pink state like Florida.
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:04 PM
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2. How's he flippant towards women, Hispanics, etc?
I've never heard Obama saying that Hispanics don't count.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:07 PM
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3. McAuliffe's 17 state strategy didn't work so well for Gore.
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 04:07 PM by Debi
x( Dean's 50 state strategy is building the Democratic base from the bottom up (proven by the 2006 statehouse sweeps in many states!)
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:18 PM
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6. Absolutely! This is as much a fight for the party as for the nomination
It's Obama/Dean 50-state ground-up versus Clinton/McAuliffe top-down big states only philosophy. I'm with Dean and Obama.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:07 PM
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4. Hillary is divisive is a right-wing, er, um Obama talking point
Nothing more.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:12 PM
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5. Why do right-wingers call Hillary a leftie, when whe's really a rightie?
She's not really divisive - everybody thinks she's against whatever they believe in. That's probably because she appears to believe in whatever is convenient for her corporate donors.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:20 PM
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7. I noticed that after the Iowa caucuses.
Before that she kissed ass, but after she lost it was like, so what, it's just Iowa--what do they know?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:33 PM
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8. Obama is just as divisive. That is the NATURE of PRIMARIES: Internecine
battles.
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