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Mon Feb-11-08 05:44 PM
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Randi Rhodes Slams Hillary & MSNBC over Shuster! |
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Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 05:44 PM by IndieLeft
The best line... if you are going to say you are a mother first, then don't send your daughter out to the public arena. And just so you know, Randi voted for Hillary! http://www.airamerica.com/listen/
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:46 PM
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1. Except she's wrong about it |
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Hillary did not ask for Schuster to be fired.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:48 PM
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Granted, she changed her mind, but initially, she did.
What do you think it means when she says that an indefinite unpaid suspension is not enough?
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:50 PM
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she is saying an indefinite suspension or an apology isn't enough --what needs t be addressed is the entire pattern. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/clinton-campa-1.htmlstop spreading lies.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:51 PM
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I have read it. Several times. |
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Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 05:55 PM by IndieLeft
Save it.
I'm not talking to you about this stuff. It is pointless.
All you do is spin stuff.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:52 PM
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you're not listening
okay.
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IndieLeft
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:54 PM
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16. You need to read the title of the story you sent me |
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Clinton Campaign Not Looking for Shuster to Be Fired, After All
"After All"
As in, NOW she doesn't want him fired, but she did.
Nice spin.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:55 PM
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after all clearly refers to media punditry misreporting
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:56 PM
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19. bye. done with you now. |
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:57 PM
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sorry I rained on your distortion of the facts.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:35 PM
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45. I love how whenever you point out anything Clinton is responsible |
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Her supporters cal it a distortion of facts.
See, clinton has one thing in common with bush...
she is never responsible.
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Mon Feb-11-08 07:26 PM
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what she is clearly saying is --MSNBC's problem is not solved with the suspension and apology from one man.
The problem at MSNBC is far deeper.
But go ahead and distort --the meaning is clear enough for anyone intelligent enough to read.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:53 PM
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14. What's an indefinite suspension? |
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Isn't that a nice way of saying "fire?"
Because if it, then that would say he needs to be fired.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:55 PM
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17. Basically, yeah. He's fired. |
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Everyone I've ever known who has been indefinitely suspended never came back to work.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:56 PM
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21. She never asked for one |
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and she is saying that it is not enough --the PATTERN at MSNBC needs to be addressed --it's not a matter of one man being suspended.
sheeeesh
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:58 PM
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25. So she's saying she supports the firing... |
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and wants more blood.
Which supports the OP's argument.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:01 PM
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she's saying that an indefinite suspension and an apology isn't sufficient. The problem is much deeper than just one man and one quote --the problem is MSNBC's locker room pattern of sexism. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/clinton-campa-1.html
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:08 PM
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She's saying it's a good thing Shuster was fired, and that just disproves your point.
"the problem is MSNBC's locker room pattern of sexism."
I don't see any sexism involved in this issue. Shuster stuck his foot in his mouth by accusing the Clintons of exploitation, but it wasn't sexist. That's a rather silly exaggeration, I'm going to have to assume brought around by desperation over your candidate's failing campaign.
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Mon Feb-11-08 07:26 PM
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52. you obviously have poor reading comprehension |
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what she is clearly saying is --MSNBC's problem is not solved with the suspension and apology from one man.
The problem at MSNBC is far deeper.
But go ahead and distort --the meaning is clear enough for anyone intelligent enough to read.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:04 PM
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She'll try to get you booted... And then laugh about it.
If I were you, I would just avoid her.
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Mon Feb-11-08 07:14 PM
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...thankfully, there is an IGORE feature and it is best to use with some people because of the baiting.
JMHO
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:53 PM
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15. That's what I thought too .. sounds like Hillary was suggesting a firing. |
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:20 PM
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42. Yes, but by not saying "fire him" she can come back and say... |
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I didn't mean that... I meant this.
Typical calculating BS that we have become accustom to seeing in her campaign.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:46 PM
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Randi has been having one of her best shows ever exposing the democratic party |
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and the hose job that it is doing to the election. She has mentioned articles by Ari Emanuel My Brother the Superdelegate and Why I Don't Trust Him to Pick the Next President. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-emanuel/my-brother-the-superdeleg_b_85924.html and Frank Rich's Next Up for the Democrats: Civil War http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/opinion/10rich.html?ei=5087&em=&en=8603c6542881bd98&ex=1202792400&pagewanted=printShe is getting me so mad about the whole damn ball game. I am really becoming convinced that there is a fix.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:59 PM
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27. I'm gonna have to catch it on whiterose tomorrow when its up |
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I didn't get to hear the show live.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:46 PM
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:47 PM
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If I were a reporter at MSNBC, I'd be pissed at them right now. Are they going to stand up for their employees or let a campaign dictate who they keep on staff? Suspension is sufficient; he doesn't need to lose his job (if not his career) over this.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:50 PM
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8. The thing is too, they MADE Shuster fill in for Tucker! |
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They should not have asked a reporter to fill in and be a pundit.
And really, you know Hillary is just going after Shuster because she can't get Matthews.
Honestly, I have heard, as we all have, Fox use MUCH WORSE language about Hillary. You don't see her trying to get anyone on there fired.
We have ONE channel that reports REAL news... MSNBC.
What is she thinking?
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:57 PM
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22. I really don't know at this point but it creeps me out |
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It makes me wonder where we're headed if she ends up in the WH -- if we think W and co were adversarial toward the press, we may be in for a huge surprise if Queen Hillary gets the throne.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:17 PM
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39. Would you say this if they were dumping on Obama 24/7? |
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Matthews already HAS apologized publicly.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:47 PM
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4. I bet this forum was a lot more progressive prior to a woman running for POTUS. |
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:56 PM
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20. And what the heck does that mean? |
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Do you want the guy to slit his wrists? Would that be sufficient, because it appears that only blood will appease you. He f'd up, but he did apologize, and he's suspended. I don't think he should lose his job though.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:59 PM
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28. Don't you know, you can't disagree with Clinton. |
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She wants King george's crown.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:00 PM
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30. Praying for Universal Healthcare to be available soon. |
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:29 PM
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43. Yeah, I want Obama to win to. |
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:43 PM
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46. Obama has said he'd give healthcare to everyone. Hillary will mandate that |
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everyone BUY insurance and negotiate for better prices. My guess is that Obama will pay for coverage of the poor by revoking Bush's tax cuts for the rich. Edwards will endorse Obama.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:45 PM
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47. Obama has said he'd give healthcare to everyone. Hillary will mandate that |
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everyone BUY insurance and negotiate for better prices. My guess is that Obama will pay for coverage of the poor by revoking Bush's tax cuts for the rich. Edwards will endorse Obama.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:47 PM
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I just don't think it is right to garnish people's wages if they can't afford it.
How does hillary know everyone can afford it? Most govt programs deny people because they assume that based on their income, they don't need help.
they don't take into account a person's bills and debt.
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Mon Feb-11-08 07:09 PM
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50. You can't run for president as a woman and then demand separate treatment! |
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No wonder men won't vote for her. She wants to have it both ways. The hell with that. If she's as strong as she claims to be she wouldn't be having the vapors over what someone said about her adult daughter.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:48 PM
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:51 PM
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I like Hillary too, but in this case I think Hillary over-reacted.
Of all the loud mouths on MSNBC who should be spanked for their offensive Clinton comments I cannot believe Shuster was the one to get in trouble.
Hopefully he will return to the airwaves because he is usually very fair in his reporting IMO
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:51 PM
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10. The left is doing a terrible job on satellite radio --- out of their element. |
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Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 05:53 PM by Yossariant
Led by the nose and letting the rw set the table -- as usual.
They won't be around much longer.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:53 PM
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12. Randi has made herself completely irrelevant. |
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Rahm Emanuel (from his closet) is an Obama supporter and Randi is often as poorly informed as Ed Shultz. She researches just for her version of the "truth" - ignores the facts - and takes the plunge.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:53 PM
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13. Rhandi has not said who she voted for... |
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At least that is what she said today. Do you have a link as to otherwise?
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:58 PM
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24. I listen. That's my link. |
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And if you listen every day, you know who she voted for. She has said all but... just like Hillary tried to say all but when it came to garnishing wages.
We all know it's part of her plan.
Just like Hillary said all but when it came to her Iraq War Vote.
We all know what she means there too.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:58 PM
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26. Hmm...think the harsh reaction by MSNBC was meant to punish Clinton as well? |
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Especially in light of the crap some others, like Matthews, have said. Shuster pays the price for all the sins. And the media - again - blame the Clintons, themselves.
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Mon Feb-11-08 05:59 PM
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29. Too bad Hillary did NOT ask for him to be fired. |
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I guess Randi should get her facts straight before she opens her mouth. She is misinterpreting Hillary asking for them to do something about this pattern of behavior at MSNBC. Chris Matthews already had to apologize for sexist remarks. They don't like Hillary. We get it already. Ed Schultz does not like her. Tweety does not like her. Schuster does not like her. We get it...They like Obama better and they have no balanced commentary any longer in my opinion. I don't like one of these candidates over the other really, but I would love to hear about both of them equally. It has become all Obama, all the time all over the media. They are supposed to be progressive Dems for the party, not for one candidate in particular.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:16 PM
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38. Randi voted for Hillary |
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And I read the original letter. Hillary only changed her tune because it made her look bad.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:00 PM
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31. Who cares what Randi is ranting about at any given time? |
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:01 PM
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33. Lionel also said it's way overblown |
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:12 PM
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36. You Obama people crack me up, if ANYTHING was said about ANY Obama |
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from the Ol Mrs. there to the kiddies to his parents to distant relatives, you'd all be a ruthless mob wanting someone's HEAD cut off.
That's all this cult thing is - mob mentality. Hearing straight from people in caucuses its downright embarrassing how Obama supporters behave, throwing objects at people who disagree with them, booing so loud, no one else can be heard. THAT is mob mentality.
When are all of you going to see you're all hypnotized by an empty suit who hasn't said a damn thing?
Any one of you ever see the Time Life commercial for the religious CD "Open the Eyes of My Heart"? The camera pans around the room showing people with their arms up over their heads, eyes closed, singing "Here I Am To Worship", "Come, Now Is The Time To Worship", etc. THAT is the cult of Obama. You've all been hypnotized, duped or who the hell knows what. One day, you'll realize it. Not now, but one day.
I knew it was a mistake to come back to this place. Mob mentality still rules.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:14 PM
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37. Plenty has been said about Obama. |
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Are you kidding me? They have been going after him since day one. If you choose to ignore it, it doesn't make it not true.
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:18 PM
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41. REALLLY? WHERE? I wait holding my breath. Examples please.... |
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:30 PM
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44. I'll give you one. Just one. You can do the work to find more examples. |
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How about the shuck and jive comment?
Oh, I'll give you two.
How about them having to rename the white house to the black house?
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Mon Feb-11-08 07:07 PM
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49. Way worse is said about Obama every day on DU!! nt |
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Mon Feb-11-08 06:17 PM
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Hillary's faux-outrage over the Shuster ordeal was disgusting.
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