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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 01:17 PM
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Lesbian Notions - Ask What You Can Do For Your Country
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So Super Tuesday is over, and nothing is any more settled for us LGBT Democratic voters than it was the Monday before.

Talk to any of us pol-watchers and we would have said that on Wednesday, February 6, everything would be over but the shoutin’. Conventional wisdom figured there would be a clear Democratic nominee after Super Tuesday. Suffice it to say, there’s nothing conventional about this campaign season, and wisdom only works as a tool of hindsight.

As far as lesbian and gay issues are concerned, I know we can count on either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama to do the right thing. With either of them in the White House, the eight years of homophobia that have become a trademark of the Bush presidency will end. Assuming that the Democrats maintain and expand their majorities in both the House and Senate, we’ll see either President Clinton or President Obama signing the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, the Matthew Shepard Act, and the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell.” Those events will be the beginning of what could be a golden age for LGBT issues in America.

So, who did I vote for in the primary? Well, I like the job Clinton has done as the junior senator from my home state, and I’d like her to continue her work. So, I voted for Obama.

I agonized over it for quite a while and didn’t make up my mind until Tuesday morning. I like Clinton well enough, but it was Obama’s message that got to me.

After enduring eight years of cynicism and lies, I want to believe in our country again. You have no idea how deep this desire is. I’m one of those kids Caroline Kennedy wrote about in her New York Times op-ed piece endorsing Obama. My first real memory of the Kennedy presidency is the grainy black-and-white image on our family TV of the plane in Dallas that flew his body back to D.C. I was five. My mother stood at the ironing board, crying.

But it is the hope he instilled in my parents, who handed it down to me, that has informed my politics and my activism. JFK embodied an America of promise. He reached out his hand to us so that we could take the hands of others and make our nation a better place to live.

I want that back. I want to believe in America again.


Obama’s belief in change, his ability to bring people into the presidential process who usually stay home, his understanding of the real challenges that face our country - these inspire me.

It may surprise some of you that behind this hard, political exterior of mine there’s a political idealist defining my views. However, when it comes to practical politics, I think Obama was dead-on when he said during the last debate before Super Tuesday that all of Clinton’s voters would vote for him if he were the nominee, but not all of Obama’s supporters would vote for her. It’s all about electability - who can actually win against the Republicans in November.

And...

So, what are the Democrats to do?

I’m hoping that the candidates will put their personal ambitions aside and think about what’s best for the country. McCain and Huckabee in the White House certainly isn’t good for the nation.

I personally don’t want to ride on the Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton seesaw. Obama has the momentum, and Clinton’s running out of money.

The idea of the two of them going at it for the next few months is nauseating. All that would do is hand the Republicans the presidency. We need a united front of Democrats and Independents in order to win back the White House.

Hillary - stay in New York. We love you, but it’s time to ask not what the country can do for you, but what you can do for the country.


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Libby Post is the founding chair of the Empire State Pride Agenda and a political commentator on public radio, on the Web, and in print media.

Link: http://www.campkc.com/campkc-content.php?Page_ID=783

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:30 PM
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1. Well...I Thought It Was An Interesting Piece...
:yoiks:

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:41 PM
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2. too thoughtful this will sink like a brick k and r
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:48 PM
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3. Ya Know... Ya Put Up A Snark Post, And Ya Get 1100 Responses...
Ya put up actual thoughtful analysis or opinion, ya get the brick treatment.

:shrug:

:hi:
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:51 PM
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5. I agree WillyT, however;
I don't know about others but I am full on exhausted! The ramming started almost a year ago so, for me anyway, I have no energy left for much of anything! I DO thank you for posting this important issue, I will bookmark and come back. K&R :hug:
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:51 PM
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4. my comment.....
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:52 PM
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6. yes well that was very thoughtful
for you. One of your best comments to date. Well reasoned and very articulate.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:53 PM
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8. Thank you.....
it was thoughtful and it was accurate.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:07 PM
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12. and thank you for giving the article the kick it deserves nt
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:54 PM
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9. LOL !!!
Have I told you...

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:53 PM
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7. my comment.....
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:56 PM
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10. LOL.....
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:57 PM
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11. : )
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 03:36 PM
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13. Ok
"Hillary's doing a great job but Obama makes me feel good so I voted for him."

What a vapid twit. :puke:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:22 PM
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14. Your Words... Not Mine
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:30 PM
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15. Her words, paraphrased.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:32 PM
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16. No...
I meant the "vapid twit" remark.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:37 PM
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18. Oh
Yes, my words. And I stand by them. She is a vapid twit.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:37 PM
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17. To each her own
This lesbian supports Hillary.

First, I'm struck how the writer says her parents handed down the hope that JFK instilled in her parents. And states she wants that back. I ask, why look to a leader to bring hope back. It's more something you need to work on for yourself. I find it unfortunate people place so much of their own needs onto a person "out there" for fulfillment.

Second, I wonder, when stating "his understanding of the real challenges that face our country" what this writer thinks those real challenges are. She just left it at that---more vagueness from an Obama supporter.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:43 PM
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19. Well... Let's Comparison Shop, Shall We ???
"Clinton v. Obama on Legislative Experience: Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov ), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you: 1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site. 2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month. 3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. 4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall. 5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson. 6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea. 7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death. 10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program. 13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda. 14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death. 15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11. 17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11 18. Assist landmine victims in other countries. 19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care. 20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system. There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record. Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight months of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced 233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more. In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record."


From (post #6): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4619707#4619832

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:10 PM
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21. You missed this one
Introduced in 2007 a bill ("Compassionate Assistance for Rape Emergencies (CARE) Act") to require hospitals to offer "morning after" pills to rape victims.

I'm sure I could find many significant ones that perhaps have NOT passed due to a Republican president and Congress as well.

If you missed that one significant one, I can only conclude your research was not exactly objective.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:12 PM
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22. Wasn't My Research...
You'd have to click on the link for the source.

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:15 PM
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24. But why bother to post something poorly researched
It just makes Obama's supporters look dishonest.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:14 PM
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23. Do you understand how misleading your post is?
The first lists what Clinton has authored and had passed into law.

Obama's lists all the bills he has sponsored. Clinton's would also be a vast list and substantive if every bill she sponsored was listed.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:26 PM
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26. I've felt like this country was going in the WRONG direction for the last 8 years
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 07:26 PM by XemaSab
It's hard to be hopeful when you know that the Chimperor is out there killing people IN YOUR NAME and with YOUR MONEY every day.

Any democrat will instil far more hope for the future of this country in me than that moran W.

/spelling
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:43 PM
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27. For me the answer is
a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress. A simple solution. It doesn't HAVE to be Obama in particular for me to feel like the country is going back in the right direction again.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:45 PM
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20. Its a touching and beautiful essay, K&R
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:19 PM
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25. Good Read. Thanks for posting.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:13 PM
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28. You Are Quite Welcome !!!
:hi:
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