Parents of black children should be for Obama

[Colobo]

If you are a man and have a black son or daughter, then you have probably thought many times about the unfair disadvantages blacks still face. (If you are black, you probably don't need to have a black son or daughter to think about it.) We all want our black children to have everything in life that white children have. But everyone knows that is not the way it works out. You only have to look at the makeup of our government to see that equality is not a reality. You can look a lot of other places and see that too.

When you think of an Obama presidency, don't think only of what a black president would mean to you personally. Think of what it would mean to your black son or daughter. That's all.

I'm not suggesting supporting Obama as a sappy form of "reverse discrimination." I believe that available evidence suggests Obama would be a better president than Hillary Clinton on the merits. So the "message" of nominating Obama would not be that a less qualified black man can be president. The message would be that a more qualified black man could be president. That's one of the many common sense things that unfortunately does not go without saying in still-backward America.

:sarcasm:

[Colobo]

1. Kick.

[stray cat]

2. Parents of white sons should be for McCain.

I guess hispanics may have to consider issues in this election. Now everything is simplified and we don't have to worry about debates or campaining - a good money saver (also sarcasm). As a female I think I'll vote for Condi.

[Colobo]

5. Yeah. Condi Rice is a woman and a female. She's got it all.

:sarcasm:

[griffi94]

13. hispanics

could vote according to their complexion.....the darker ones can go for obama....the lighter ones to hillary....and because it would be unfair for them to split by complexion and gender...hispanic women shouldn't be allowed to vote.....:sarcasm:

[jackson_dem]

14. Parents of girls should be for Hillary then too!

Let's make a deal. All parents of black sons vote for Obama and all parents of girls vote for Hillary. Where there is overlap an advisory opinion from Condi Rice will decide it.

:eyes:

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[jackson_dem]

27. Many men are sexist but women are the majority

The number of votes she gets for her gender should more than make up for the votes she loses for her gender. There are a lot of women who will vote for her because of her gender. My sister and her friend are as apolitical as I am political and even they plan on registering to vote so they can vote for Hillary if she is the nominee!

I disagree with the idea we should vote based on identities, especially since I believe it played a role in Edwards never getting a fair shake from the media and him never really contending in the national polls. Just look at the support Obama got with black men, Hillary with white women and compare it to Edwards being tied with white men with both.

[MediaBabe]

44. That's stupid

Ya mean there are no other (NONE!!) white male role models in government? We haven't had WHITE MEN in the office of President for 200 YEARS?

You really don't get it, do you?

[Evergreen Emerald]

3. that is nearly what Michelle Obama said

And of course: "our time is now."

[ClassWarrior]

7. Link? "Nearly" is a weasel word.

NGU.

[crawfish]

4. I was born a poor black child...

Which is why Obama gets my vote.

:P

[bunnies]

10. one of my favorite movies.

:toast:

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

11. Die, Gas Pumper.

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[Adelante]

29. Welcome to DU, Trecie

Enjoy your stay :hi:

[countingbluecars]

30. Yikes! n/t

[AlCzervik]

24. He hates these cans!

one of my favorite movies ever.

[havocmom]

6. The 'vote HRC if you have a daugher' thing, taken to logical conclusion = lots of small nations

with no diversity in each one. You are spot on to make fun of it, but IBTL ;)

[NashVegas]

8. Let's Ask Chris Rock and Jesse Jackson Jr:

"Cause you'll be real embarrassed if he won and you wasn't down with it. Say, oh man, I can't call him now, 'I had that white lady, what was I thinking?'" - Chris Rock, 11/30/07


"Do You Want to Go Down in History as the One to Prevent a Black From Winning the White House?" - JJ Jr. to Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, reported 2/14/08

[Window]

9. IBTL

Peace:thumbsup:

[jackson_dem]

12. Now we know why you voted for Bush twice

Folks upthread, don't forget Obama surrogate Charles Barron saying blacks should vote for the black candidate. Yes, just like the Michelle Obama and Rock statements this "happened" to come in November of 2007. Never forget the timeline. It was the Obamas who brought race into the campaign.

This is an extremely idiotic reason to vote for someone. Would you vote for Bush a third time, postulating that he could run again, if he were black? Think of what it would mean!

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[Colobo]

37. Who voted for Bush twice? My first presidential vote was in 04.

[gulliver]

15. Why the sarcasm label?

You should have left it out. Your post (my post with words changed and a sarcasm label) doesn't have the effect you might think it has. Could just be the way I am reading it though. I hope your post stays up after mine sinks.

[Exultant Democracy]

18. I think it has exactly the effect that is intended.

Sorry if other people aren't into identity politics, don't blame us for thinking it is silly.

[gulliver]

21. It had the intended effect with you, I guess.

Again, I am content if it stays up. I'm kind of powerless against you folks who can use sophisticated terms like "identity politics."

OK, let me get this straight. Politics should reflect life, and everyone knows life is the same for everyone, regardless of identity. So identity politics is crass and silly. Is that your position? I don't want to be unfair.

[Exultant Democracy]

31. No my position is that identity politics is a most primitive form of tribalism.

We need to be cosmopolitan not nationalist, inclusive not exclusive, voting based on race or gender is a real step back-wards for the Democratic party and the ideals of the progressive movement.

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[Hepburn]

25. Did you feel the breeze....

...the one that went over your head?

Just curious...

[formernaderite]

19. hahaha....that's good

I found the audacity of the if you have daughters you have to vote hillary unbelievable.

[Donnachaidh]

20. wow -- there's that race card again

Isn't it getting worn out yet? :sarcasm:

[jackson_dem]

36. Have you ever seen an Edwards or Hillary supporter saying folks should vote on color?

[NOLALady]

45. My guess is its some of the HRC supporters who are

spouting this crap to fan divisions.

[jackson_dem]

46. Charles Barron, Chris Rock, and Michelle Obama last November

This is part of the Obama strategy.

[MediaBabe]

48. Well I am a Hillary supporter

But if I were black I would be so proud of Obama and he would get my vote. For heaven's sake, why not? He's a good man and a whole lot of people, white included think he'd make a good president.

[jackson_dem]

49. You would vote on race? Why? What is the point?

Would you vote for Condi Rice then?

[Hepburn]

23. I am Latin, but not Hispanic...wha, wha, where is MY candidate???

:hi:

[Drunken Irishman]

28. Doin' that conga beat?

:D

[Hepburn]

32. LOL....

...more like a Romanian gypsy dance!

[stray cat]

33. Oh no! You may be one of those who will have to look at issues!

[Hepburn]

43. OMG.........

.....what a scary thought!!!! :scared:

:sarcasm:

[LWolf]

34. I am a white woman with 2 black goddaughters,

and I am for neither of them. :shrug:

[NOLALady]

35. More crap to fan division.

We must keep our eyes on the prize and keep a Republican out of the WH.

I have a black son. So, I should vote Obama.

Some of my ancestors came from Africa, so I should vote Obama.

I am a woman with a daughter, so I should vote Hillary.

I share some French-Canadian ancestors with HRC, so I should vote for Hillary.

I have an insane Uncle, so I should vote McCain.

Decisions. Decisions.

[MediaBabe]

50. Nobody said to stop thinking

And there is nothing to gain by ridiculing people who would proudly cast their vote for an African American just because his skin is black. He wouldn't be in the position he is in were he not well qualified. Can't you imagine the pride many people must feel? Besides, he's a lot better than McCain who, if pitted against Obama would undoubtedly get a lot of votes just because he is white.

[DiamondJay]

38. comments like yours are what Obama's campaign is about

racism. pure racism. it should not be about electing a black president or a white president. it should be about electing the president with the best policies. this is the problem, people voting for Obama cuz of his skin color. that is called RACISM. it is racism to elect a completely unqualified man because his skin color.

[NOLALady]

40. Yeah, completely unqualified, sorta like GWB?

Do you also think that racists voted for the current POTUS?

[MediaBabe]

51. You're talking about Bush, right?

"it is racism to elect a completely unqualified man because his skin color"

Who else could you mean besides Bush?

[MediaBabe]

39. I agree 100%

If I were black, nothing on earth would keep me from supporting Obama. And why not? He's undoubtedly a decent man. The good it would do my family personally to have a black in the White House would outweigh any other consideration.

[NOLALady]

42. And what good would it do for your family if a black

was in the WH?

[MediaBabe]

52. PRIDE baby! Black PRIDE!

You seem in denial of how deeply ingrained white racism against blacks still is in America. It would do a world of wonderous good for black children to see a fine example of a black man who worked his way to the top. Maybe they'd actually believe the American dream really is open to them too.

[countingbluecars]

53. I agree.

I have been a teacher for a long time, and I have watched the subtle racism that occurs even among children. How uplifting to finally see a black president and to watch his children grow up in the White House. I want this especially for all the little black girls who never get to be the "Disney princess".

[NOLALady]

56. I am voting for Obama because I think he is the best qualified

to lead and heal this nation.

But, if I felt he wasn't qualified and voted for him only because he's Black, what kind of an example would I set for my children? What message would they get?

Denial? Trust me, I've experienced white racism up close and personal. I can write a book about it. But, that has no bearing on my vote.

[Nedsdag]

41. Steven Spielberg is the father of two black children,

yet he's supporting Hillary.

Go figure.

[fortyfeetunder]

47. Best. Sarcastic. Post. Evah.

and I am enjoying the reaction to this one!
:popcorn:

[NOLALady]

55. I'm embarrassed to say I didn't pick up the sarcasm

immediately.

That's what I get for reading the posts from the bottom up.

After I threw in a few snide remarks and read further up, I realized he was playing.

He got me.

[apocalypsehow]

54. Excellent repartee to the other silliness posted.

:thumbsup: