Reminder: The Clinton's Are NOT The Democratic Party

[THUNDER HANDS]

The Democratic Party is one of two major political parties in the United States, the other being the Republican Party. It is the oldest political party in the United States and arguably the oldest party in the world.<2><3>

Since the 2006 midterm elections, the Democratic Party is the majority party for the 110th Congress; the party holds an outright majority in the House of Representatives and the Democratic caucus (including two independents) constitutes a majority in the United States Senate. Democrats also hold a majority of state governorships and control a plurality of state legislatures. In 2004, it was the largest political party, with 42.6 percent of 169 million registered voters claiming affiliation.<4>

The Democratic Party traces its origins to the Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and other influential opponents of the Federalists in 1792. Since the division of the Republican Party in the election of 1912, it has consistently positioned itself to the left of the Republican Party in economic as well as social matters. The economically left-leaning activist philosophy of Franklin D. Roosevelt, which has strongly influenced American liberalism, has shaped much of the party's economic agenda since 1932. Roosevelt's New Deal coalition usually controlled the national government until 1964. The civil rights movement of the 1960s, championed by the party despite opposition at the time from its Southern wing, has continued to inspire the party's liberal principles.

That, is what the Democratic Party is.

These are the Clinton's:

They are two politicians who belong to the Democratic Party.

They are not THE Democratic Party. They are not the owners, founders, presidents, CEOs, heads of, or standard-bearers of the Party.

Criticism of them does not mean criticism of the Democratic Party.
Criticism of them does not mean criticism of the ideology of liberalism.

It doesn't mean that you are a Republican.
It does not mean you hate the poor.
It does not mean you hate minorities.
It does not mean you hate women.
It does not mean you hate gay people.
It does not mean you're a bigot, a misogynist, a racist, a ageist, a sexist, a classist, a conservative, or a freeper.

It just means you're criticizing one or both of the Clinton's.

Sometimes that criticism is valid. Sometimes it's not.

But at no time does it necessarily mean that it's anything more that a pointed attack at the Clinton's and the Clinton's alone.

Thank you.

[JVS]

1. Duh!

[grantcart]

2. well in that case you don't count nt

[PresidentObama]

3. Thanks Captain Obvious!

[no name no slogan]

4. Clinton who?

Did I miss something here?

[Yael]

5. This was sadly necessary

On another thread, someone stated that any disagreement with Hillary is "blaming a rape victim".

:crazy:

I hope Senator Obama sews this thing up quickly so that we can move past this. Its positively vile.

[PresidentObama]

8. Back up your claim about this blaming a rape victim thing.

Please.

[Yael]

12. Here ya go. Like to have fell out of my chair when I saw it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4607968&mesg_id=4608488

[PresidentObama]

16. Not a good example, I will say. But the context is different than you presented in your post.

[Eurobabe]

18. I can't agree with you more, this shit is damaging

now. I am so pissed off at the Clintons I would have to fully wrap my body in tarp, bind myself with duct tape and use multiple clothespins to vote for her if she is the nominee.

I vowed it would not come to that, but thanks to the shitbombs here lately, my gloves are off again. I am SICK of ALL of it.

:mad: :nuke: :grr:

:nuke: :nuke:

[TwilightGardener]

6. You can be a good Democrat, and be thoroughly sick of the Clintons.

[gateley]

22. You're right - we need to remember that. Thank you. nt

[NastyRiffraff]

7. Er...who said they were?

In the same vein, criticism of Obama is not the same thing as criticism of Truth, Justice, and the American Way. Nor is it a criticism of having "hope." Nor is it against "change." Nor is it racism, or anti-youth.

<SnarkyGrammaticalCorrection>It's Clintons, not Clinton's. the former is plural; the latter is possessive.</SnarkyGrammaticalCorrection> (Sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine; I've even seen "your's")

[stillcool]

10. I just was given a lesson...

the other night in "ensure", and "insure". I failed.

[Spider Jerusalem]

11. You need to ensure that your automobile is insured

[stillcool]

13. we need to have measures put in place...

that will 'ensure' or 'insure' that our voting systems are reliable? Help me out.:hi:

[Spider Jerusalem]

15. Ensure

easy way to remember the difference: 'insure' is what you to to a house or a car (financial protection against risk, as in 'insurance policy'); ensure means to make certain something happens.

[stillcool]

17. thanks!

very helpful.

[THUNDER HANDS]

14. sorry, that was spell check

i just ran though the spell check and it came out that way.

DAMN YOU SPELL CHECK!!!!

[Spider Jerusalem]

19. SPelchek r teh evul

(and it makes people lazy, too; lots of stuff slips through that's not incorrectly spelled, but is still WRONG; spellcheck is not good at catching homonyms substituted for the word you actually intended to use, for instance)

[RazBerryBeret]

9. good reminder!

[QC]

20. Reminder: Apostrophes are not used to make nouns plural.

Ordinarily I don't do grammar flames, but when a thread is as pedantic and condescending as this one, why not?

[incapsulated]

21. Except of course, when you want to diss the Party and demand "change"

Then the Clintons become the Party and everything it stands for.

Funny how that works.

[AntiFascist]

23. Why do you hate the Democratic Party!

Just kidding, K&R

[TexasObserver]

24. We survived the Clintons once. As a party, we can't do it again.

We got lucky and Bill got lucky in 1992. Without Perot in it, we would have probably lost.

We rallied around Bill and gave him our support for 8 years, even when he betrayed us on key issues, even when he dragged us down with his horndog problems. For all the good things he did, he cost us dearly up and down the ballot. He left the Party a mess, and paved the way for the Bush debacle.

Hillary is not half the candidate or leader Bill was. With Hillary, you get more negatives with none of Bill's positives that made him salvageable.

This is OUR party, not theirs. They are both fueled by relentless personal ambition, and the Party is the vehicle they have chosen. But it's not theirs, and they can't have it to use any more.

We need to fresh start or we will never regain our solid majority status.

[Chasing Dreams]

25. ABC: Anybody But Clinton