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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:23 PM
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Is Obama going to take Public funding in the GE?
I didn't know about this until yesterday.

Now he is changing his mind.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/15/AR2008021503193_pf.html


Mr. Obama's Waffle
His commitment to pursue public financing for the fall campaign suddenly looks soft.

Saturday, February 16, 2008; A20



AS RECENTLY as November, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was unequivocal about whether he would agree to take public financing for the general election if his Republican opponent pledged to do the same. "If you are nominated for president in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the presidential public financing system?" the Midwest Democracy Network asked in a questionnaire. Mr. Obama's answer was clear. "Yes," he wrote. "If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election."

Or maybe not. Mr. Obama deserves credit for obtaining a ruling from the Federal Election Commission that allowed him to raise money for the general election campaign but reserve the right to return the funds if he were to win the nomination and manage to arrange a cease-fire with the other side. That outcome, once improbable, is now within reach. The presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, agreed long ago to Mr. Obama's deal, back when his prospects for securing the nomination seemed slim. Mr. McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, reaffirmed that pledge this week at a lunch with reporters sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor.

But Mr. Obama's campaign, which has been raking in money at an astonishing clip of more than $30 million a month, is starting to hedge. Speaking to the Associated Press, Mr. Obama's spokesman, Bill Burton, downgraded the Obama plan to "something that we pursued with the FEC and it was an option that we wanted on the table and is on the table." Asked about the campaign's earlier position, Mr. Burton said, "No, there is no pledge."

It must be tempting for a campaign that has reached dizzying new financial heights to give up the guarantee of $85 million in federal funds for the prospect of being able to rake in even more -- and to get a financial edge over an opponent whose fundraising has been lackluster and whose party seems dispirited. It must be chastening to think about the financial advantage that Mr. McCain will have in the months leading up to the convention, when Mr. Obama and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), his remaining Democratic opponent, may still be battling for the nomination while Mr. McCain is spending "primary" money to build the necessary architecture for the general election.

But this kind of backtracking and parsing isn't what the millions of voters who have been inspired by Mr. Obama are looking for. It's not befitting Mr. Obama's well-earned image as a champion of reform. Instead of waffling, Mr. Obama should be pushing Ms. Clinton to go beyond her spokesman's statements that she would "definitely consider" forgoing public financing.

Why not let the candidates raise as much cash as they can and save the taxpayers' money? Because it's better for voters if candidates spend more time talking to them and less time cozying up to donors. It's better for democracy if candidates are less indebted to big bundlers who have raked in six- or seven-figure amounts for their campaigns. Mr. McCain seems to understand this. What about the Democrats?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:26 PM
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1. I'd hope not. Let him steamroll McCain and the GOP in donations, and
tell them they can kiss his ass. There's never anything wrong with reconsidering a position--McCain himself has done it MANY times, the old flip-flopper. Time for Obama to be a savvy businessman and tell the election-stealers to fuck off.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:27 PM
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2. He had no way of knowing his fund raising would be so successful
so he would be a fool to give up the dollar advantage and risk a loss to McCain. I don't blame him for changing his mind on this pissant issue.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:30 PM
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3. Grass roots regular people don't give a hoot about campaign finance issues
But you wouldn't know that given the hysterical rantings of the New York Times Editorial Board
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:30 PM
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4. I hope not; if he thinks he can raise more than the cap, why should he?
It's about winning.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:31 PM
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5. Let campaign reform begin for everyone in 2012. This contest has already begun.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:32 PM
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6. The old "where you stand depends on where you sit" routine.
If it is advantageous, you take position A. If less so, you take the opposite tack.

It will be a well-placed dig if he doesn't do it, assuming he makes it to the show. He'll just have to prepare to take it, because it will be a talking point and he'll be called a hypocrite.

Clinton wasn't as definite, so she'd get a bit of a pass.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:05 PM
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13. It's already become a talking point.
I heard about this over and over yesterday in the msm.

Should be interesting to see what he does.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:39 AM
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14. I think he'll back up and try to ride it out. Dunno if it will work.
I keep having this recurring dream that Cheney clutches the pearls and resigns due to ill health, though.

McCain is nominated for his job and is approved overwhelmingly by voice vote (there's no crapping on collegiality, look how easily old "Let The Eagle Soar" got the AG job).

Then, McCain keeps pounding about this campaign financing issue, making his opponent look like a money grubbing, special interest pig...of course, as VEEP, he gets full use of AF2. He can do his job AND campaign.

Not a level playing field, but he can actually stick to the "Public Financing" AND take advantage of his office by giving a speech about being the VP in town A, and then doing a campaign appearance right after--he only has to pay the expenses associated with the campaign event, not the transportation. Plus, he gets that Bully Pulpit, and as a new feller on the scene, he gets LOTSA press.

Very sneaky. But totally do-able. I put nothing past BushCo. Nothing.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:32 PM
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7. I could care less about playing "fair" with the GOP. Hell no.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:37 PM
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8. McCain, champion of campaign-finance reform will skewer any flip-flopper on this/nt
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:41 PM
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9. Looks to me like Obama is fighting a war on 2 fronts already
Both McBush and Hillary are going negative on him. Right now he needs all the money he can get.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:43 PM
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10. I hope he doesn't get roped into that thing.

I want to be part of his campaign and I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people in this country want the same thing. And I, too, want Obama to steam roll over McCain.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:47 PM
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11. Unlikely. Corporations want their piece of the candidate.
Business as usual.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 02:56 PM
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12. General election would give both $85 million.
Yes, Barack would do well to forego public financing. McCain might have to take it anyway, since Barack is outraising him $3-$1 for the general.

But McCain ceded the high ground on public financing when he wriggled out of his public financing commitment for the primary, oh, just last week.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/11/mccain-rejects-primary-pu_n_86094.html

What a cynical bastard McCain is. Doesn't he already have the nomination locked up? What's the point of spending more now for the Republican primary? He's looking for that nice big loophole of "spending for the primary" while actually campaigning for the general. Barack should remind everyone that McCain did this, and how can he be trusted to stick to this in the election?

But the way the primaries are running, Barack could continue to "spend for the primaries" more legitimately all the way up the the late August convention, and then get $85 million for the final two-month general. Sticking with the public financing wouldn't be a bad choice. There's just a better one for him.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:40 AM
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15. Obama will raise around $500 million in the GE
McCain would be lucky to get $200 million.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:50 AM
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16. By your subject, you are admitting that Obama WILL be the nominee in the GE....
...about time you Clinton supporters started coming around...
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