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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:56 PM
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'Attack opponents on their strengths.' ------Karl Rove

If there's any single thing that defines a Rove campaign, it is smashmouth politics. He goes after you hammer and tong. Attack, attack, attack is the model that he used. You saw that as early as 1985 when he put together a memo for a Republican candidate for governor in Texas, and in that he quoted Napoleon, saying, in essence, that the whole art of war is a "well-circumspect defense, but also a rapid and audacious attack." That's the model that he's always used.
-----Wayne Slater, PBS interview, April 12, 2005





Clinton attacks major Obama asset - his oratory, February 19, 2008


OSHKOSH, Wis. - Circling the stage like a comedian, Barack Obama had his heartland crowd in stitches recently as he mocked detractors for calling him naive.
"Some folks are saying he hasn't been in Washington long enough. So we need to season and stew him little bit, and boil all the hope out of him," Obama joked here Friday. "Twenty years from now, when he talks and acts like us, maybe he'll be ready."

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"But I noticed the American people aren't buying that argument," Obama continued, his voice accelerating into urgency.
"This is our moment, this is our time ... " Obama roared. "We will remake this country and we will change the world!"
"Yes we can!" listeners cried, enthralled.

The Illinois senator's skill at oratory has arguably been his best weapon against rival Hillary Rodham Clinton in their battle for the Democratic nomination.
However, those inspirational words are now coming under new scrutiny as Clinton and presumptive GOP front-runner John McCain try to make them Obama's Achilles heel, claiming he offers little beyond pretty words.
"Speeches don't put food on the table," Clinton said last week in Ohio. "There's a big difference between us - speeches versus solutions, talk versus action."

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"He has been drawing on the Kennedy legacy to score points and I think very consciously and effectively," said Kennedy biographer Robert Dallek.
Indeed, one of Obama's speechwriters is a former assistant to Kennedy speechwriter Ted Sorensen, who endorsed Obama.
Obama has adopted Kennedy's New Frontier message and statesmanlike manner - serious but not stern, rousing but not raucous. He adds a jigger of King's pulpit passion, a dash of Elvis Presley's glamour (though not his swivels or garb), a twist of Bill Cosby's humor and a splash of soul.

"They will try to bamboozle you, hoodwink you, run the okey-doke on you," Obama likes to warn of his foes.
In many ways, Obama's speaking style is a skillful "combination of black and white, just as Elvis' performance style was a combination of white and black," said St. Louis speechwriter Laurie Vincent.
..... But charisma also is "about a person at a particular time, about the intersection between what people want and an individual who comes along to express it," Westen noted. And the more that war-weary, economically beleaguered voters hunger for change, the harder it may be for a candidate to meet their expectations.

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Clinton Camp Seeks to Undermine Obama, February 18, 2008


DE PERE, Wis. (AP) — Top advisers to Hillary Rodham Clinton accused Democratic rival Barack Obama of plagiarism Monday, the latest effort by her campaign to undermine the Illinois senator's credibility. Obama shrugged off the criticism and noted Clinton has used his slogans, too.
Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson, during a conference call with reporters, pointed to a speech Obama delivered at a Democratic Party dinner in Wisconsin Saturday that lifted lines from an address by his friend, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick.

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Clinton's campaign posted video clips on YouTube to illustrate the similarities in Obama's and Patrick's speeches. Obama's campaign pointed reporters to video available on the same Web site of Clinton telling Iowa voters "we are fired up and we are ready to go."

Later Monday, Obama hit back harder during a rally in Youngstown, Ohio, turning Clinton's criticism of his speeches into a biting critique of her past support for trade deals, including the North American Free Trade Agreement.
"She says speeches don't put food on the table. You know what? NAFTA didn't put food on the table, either," Obama said, bringing the Rust Belt crowd to its feet.

A day earlier, Clinton's spokesman criticized Obama for backing away from a pledge to accept public funding if he is the Democratic nominee, saying Obama had engaged in a pattern of walking away from promises.

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'Attack opponents on their strengths.' ------Karl Rove









Jim Wilson/The New York Times
A crowd last month in Columbia, S.C., as Senator Barack Obama appealed for primary votes.



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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:58 PM
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1. That's how I see it.
From start to finish they have been hitting his speeches.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:03 PM
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9. What's funny is his speeches only became an issue when he started winning
primaries. I remember last summer and fall, everyone was saying he was "too cerebral, too thoughtful and analytic" for folks at campaign appearances, they accused him of talking over ordinary folks' heads about policy. Once he started making victory speeches, and people saw them and liked him on TV, only THEN did he become "all speeches, no substance" etc. to the attackers.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 04:59 PM
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2. I think it's the other Rove strategy.
Attacking other people for what you yourself are guilty of.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:00 PM
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Well, the fact that Karl Rove said it doesn't make it wrong.
In a political campaign, you should attack people at their strong points. I'm surprised Clinton didn't do this earlier. And after Obama wins the primary (which I think is pretty likely at this point), he should be attacking McCain where McCain is strongest -- hitting him on the war and national security.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:00 PM
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3. Her goal is to wreck him. Policy and agenda are out the window--can't win
on that, apparently. Now he's a fraud, according to the Clinton campaign--back to the politics of personal destruction.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:01 PM
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5. As opposed to implying the Clinton were racists?
Please there are no windows left in either candidates glass house at this point.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:02 PM
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7. Yeah, Clinton never dismissed the South carolina win by comparing him to Jesse Jackson...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:04 PM
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11. As they say reading is fundamental

"Please there are no windows left in either candidates glass house at this point."
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:15 PM
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13. I don't think anyone besides one Obama surrogate implied that
the Clintons were racist, although some black leaders cried foul at the MLK "took a President" and "fairy tale" comments. It's just that the Clintons and their surrogates appeared to be injecting race into the campaign for political advantage in advance of SC, and the Bill/Jesse Jackson comment was blatant and over the top. I don't think they're racist. I do believe they would use race if they thought it would help them. If it didn't backfire on them, they'd still be using that strategy today (to marginalize Obama from the mainstream as the "black candidate", or to get pollsters and surrogates to say that Latinos won't vote for blacks). Just as women felt sympathy for Hillary and punished Obama in NH, blacks felt sympathy for Obama and supported him in SC and GA. That's the way politics goes.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:02 PM
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6. Hmm...personal destruction...didn't Dubya coin that...
...so by the "reasoning" on this thread, you're just like George W. Bush!!!!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:01 PM
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4. Rove invented attacking an opponent's strengths?
Again I ask is this everyone's 1st campaign or are they truly this naive?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:03 PM
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8. Smashmouth politics: Attack! Attack! Attack!
The Clintons have now become the Rovian slime-master, grasshopper.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:04 PM
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10. That's why Obama tried to Swiftboat the Clintons on Race.
'Attack opponents on their strengths.' ------Karl Rove
Obama’s chief political strategist is a student of Karl Rove’s tactics.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:17 PM
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14. The Clintons and their mouthpieces lost the black community all on their own, for the most part.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:21 PM
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15. you keep playing that losing card
and then one day you'll wake up and wonder "why did I lose?"
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:05 PM
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12. Well, what else does she have?
She's not especially charming or warm. She's kind of an awful speaker. I guess this is where you hit him, if you're playing in RoveWorld.

How depressing the Clintons have become. :-(
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 05:22 PM
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16. its like hannibal lector giving election advice to clarice starling..
"attack them on thier strenghts.. so you still hear the lambs mrs clinton?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 06:46 PM
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17. I think that the Clintons hired Rove as a consultant
Clearly they have copied all his dirty tricks and tactics.
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