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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:39 PM
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Why is it that anything Hillary says about Obama Keith labels as "negative
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 08:40 PM by jasmine621
attacks," but whatever Obama says about Hillary is just a "response" or visionary speech.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:41 PM
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1. It is GENBC policy to attack Hillary and praise BO to improve ratings among young people
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:51 PM
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11. Well if you don't think that a lot of Obama's comments about Hillary are "nasty"
there is little to talk about because many of his comments are some of the nastiest of the primary season.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:57 PM
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13. I think much of the Obama campaign is mean and angry, but NBC won't cover that part
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:34 PM
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29. Such as? n/t
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:41 PM
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2. uhhh...maybe it's just what she says
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:41 PM
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3. Because it is true! Hillary always comes off as nasty
and vindictive! Obama at least APPEARS to be above the fray. We will see it again when she comes out nasty in the debate! lol
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:42 PM
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4. Keith Obamaman?
He's got a right to favor a candidate - he favors Obama by being more critical of Hillary - whatchagonnado?

:shrug:
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:42 PM
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5. Let it be ... both will be around when this is over n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:42 PM
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6. Keith has a Man Crush on Obama
Let's Hope he gets Cured.
:eyes:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:53 PM
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36. I am beginning to think so--started about a month ago or so.. He is more styled about
it than Tweety but it is there.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:43 PM
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7. Keith is fair. He is a wonderful progressive voice. We need more Keith Os.
The problem is with Hillary's tactics.

The super delegate issue and MI and FL did not help her in WI. Dems don't want to think that their vote may mean nothing and that the election will be decided in a back room somewhere.

Hillary also went negative in WI with ads and it didn't help her.

She now has a 527 that is going to be assisting her.

Her campaign denied bringing up the "plagarism" allegation... despite the FACT that it was Wolfson who brought it up in a conference call with supporters.

The problem is not Keith.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:46 PM
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9. He's not really fair
C'mon, if you didn't favor Obama you would have a different viewpoint.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:16 PM
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23. He's entirely fair -- I backed Edwards before he dropped out
I like both Obama and Clinton. I'm behind Obama now but I voted for Edwards in the primary.
Keith has never been anything but fair and evenhanded. To suggest otherwise is to betray
an emotional reaction that is impacting judgment.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:23 PM
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47. If he said negative stuff about my candidate, I'd reconsider their tactics
Olberman is very down the middle fair.I've heard him say things about Obama which indicated he needed to clarify some points, so he did.

What turned him was Hillary prevailing on MSNBC to fire David Shuster, which struck him as something the Rove/Bush team would do to an opponent. Freedom of the Press is important to many in the business.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:40 PM
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49. OK
Keep living in your little fairy-land. Only an Obama supporter would think he was even remotely fair to Hillary.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:41 PM
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50. So now you will throw KO under the bus. How many progressives must die before HC wins
is this her campaigns goal?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:43 PM
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51. Throw him under the bus? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING??
I said he wasn't fair to Hillary - is that a FUCKING PROBLEM???

...or is Keith beyond anything even resembling criticism?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:00 PM
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15. He's not fair.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:59 PM
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40. KO went neg on Hillary over a month ago--very UNprofessional. I expected more from him.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:44 PM
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8. cuz it seems to be true?
Obama is mostly defending himself against Clinton's flailing insults, and I think he does it quite graciously and mannerly.
Now if he foamed at the mouth and starting stomping his feet or starts getting dirty, I'm sure you would like that. I'm sure Hillary would Love that.

but he doesn't.
He conducts himself quite well in how he handles her attacks and this is impressing people who are sick and tired of the dialogue we are supposed to be used to.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:47 PM
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10. Because Hillary and her supporters incessantly attack.
They're rabid.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:01 PM
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16. Rabid is a good word for you.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:06 PM
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19. Thanks
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 09:07 PM by Bleachers7
It's part of the college graduate thing. Big words.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:01 PM
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41. that is a polite word--
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:55 PM
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12. Here's a poll on media bias in favor of Obama
and/or against Hillary, 71% thinks media favors Obama.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:02 PM
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17. Thank you.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:13 PM
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21. And this is a Lou Dobbs poll where
probably a majority of his listeners are Republicans and Hillary haters.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:19 PM
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25. In the latest Time Magazine they had a
list of things Hillary Clinton would like to have and one was the favorable press coverage Obama gets.
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orchidlover127 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:35 PM
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30. Thank you
I know I sound like a paranoid baby to all my egobamaniac family and friends -now I know I am not going crazy!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:56 PM
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37. much thanks. Its there for all to see when people open their eyes.
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gerrilea Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 08:57 PM
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14. The powers that be don't want HRC, they are afraid of her
She could say that Obama is the best thing since sliced bread and they would destroy her saying she was being racist...

It's all about getting the masses to go for Obama, so they then can destroy him in the GE...get it yet...I did a month ago...

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:02 PM
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42. the msm has already lynched her I am afraid. Its not letting up at all.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:15 PM
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43. The MSM? The Air America people all seem to support
Hillary. Ed Schultz hates her, I know he is not AA but they carry him. I can't stand to listen to AA anymore, Hillary gets better treatment from Rush Limbaugh.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:21 PM
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45. yes--even left radio has jumped the shark. i stopped listening to Ed a few
months ago when he had a tantrum cause Hillary did not show up for this show.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:02 PM
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52. I can't listen to Steph Miller any more. And I like her AND Obama. Enough! nt
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:04 PM
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18. He has a primarily specific demographic audience, and he has an agenda. n/t
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:20 PM
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26. Yes and Yes. n/t
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:13 PM
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20. Because Hillary is very negative. Thats why she's going to lose. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:15 PM
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22. Because folks like MoDo have defined her as 'cold' and 'calculating'. nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:17 PM
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24. Why did the "New Coke" marketing campaign fail? nt
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:24 PM
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27. Ah Shit That Was Funny!
:hi: from the mom of a Marine 3/7 Infantry based at 29 Palms CA. He is out now due to his injuries in Iraq, but Semper Fi!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:48 PM
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35. Semper fi back
And hope he recovers fully & quickly.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:18 PM
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44. He is Good Building Houses in NOLA
Habitat for Humanity. Getting his head straight.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:32 PM
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28. No negative press, no coverage of campaign conference calls, no quotes from campaign
workers...why are we not hearing any of this crap about the Obama camp? How do they insulate themselves?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:38 PM
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33. It's called "effective media management." It's something the HRC campaign was supposed to know.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:30 PM
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54. More like media bias, I suspect.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:37 PM
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31. Why is it that Hillary can only engage in negative smear politics?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:37 PM
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32. Because lately, EVERYTHING SHE SAYS IS A NEGATIVE ATTACK.

To paraphrase Harry Truman....


Keith isn't giving the Hillary campaign hell, he's just telling the truth on them and they think it's hell!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:45 PM
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34. We've stopped recording Keith every night.
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 09:45 PM by MyPetRock
He used to be a "must watch" for me. The MSNBC lynching of Hillary Clinton has totally turned me off.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:57 PM
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38. I have mainly stopped watching also. It is sick.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:58 PM
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39. btw--VERY appropo use of the term L.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:25 PM
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48. Whackjob. (not KO)
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:22 PM
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46. Because everything Hillary says about Obama IS negative
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:04 PM
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53. because it is negative
duh
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