NYT: Clinton Turns From Anger To Sarcasm.

[Occam Bandage]

PROVIDENCE, R.I. – On Saturday, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton showed her angry side, admonishing Senator Barack Obama for a campaign mailing that she called misleading.

On Sunday, before a rally of several thousand, she added a heavy dose of sarcasm.

“Now I could stand up here and say, let’s get everybody together, let’s get unified the sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing,” she said, to a smattering of giggles. “And everyone will know we should do the right thing, and the world will be perfect.”

She added: “But I have no illusions about how hard this is going to be. You are not going to wave a magic wand and make the special interests disappear.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/clinton-turns-from-anger-to-sarcasm/

Because, you know, Hillary, if there's one thing that attracts people more than anger, it's bitter mockery of positivity.

Seriously, she's rapidly going off the rails here.

[Oleladylib]

1. Nice read, no proof..she's exactly right!

[FrenchieCat]

57. She's exactly wrong....

"For many months, we've been teased, even derided for talking about hope. But we always knew that hope is not blind optimism. It's not ignoring the enormity of the tasks ahead or the roadblocks that stand in our path.

It's not sitting on the sidelines or shirking from a fight. Hope is that thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us if we have the courage to reach for it and to work for it and to fight for it.

Hope is what I saw in the eyes of the young woman in Cedar Rapids who works the night shift after a full day of college and still can't afford health care for a sister who's ill. A young woman who still believes that this country will give her the chance to live out her dreams.

Hope is what I heard in the voice of the New Hampshire woman who told me that she hasn't been able to breathe since her nephew left for Iraq. Who still goes to bed each night praying for his safe return.

Hope is what led a band of colonists to rise up against an empire. What led the greatest of generations to free a continent and heal a nation. What led young women and young men to sit at lunch counters and brave fire hoses and march through Selma and Montgomery for freedom's cause.

Hope -- hope is what led me here today. With a father from Kenya, a mother from Kansas and a story that could only happen in the United States of America.

Hope is the bedrock of this nation. The belief that our destiny will not be written for us, but by us, by all those men and women who are not content to settle for the world as it is, who have the courage to remake the world as it should be." Barack Obama, Iowa victory speech.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-usobam0105-transcript,0,7073760.story?page=2

or you can just say Nope to Hope Dope!

[Thrill]

2. Another Hillary? How many is this now?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

22. The Sybil syndrome

[emilyg]

3. She is very right.

[Occam Bandage]

4. Nobody has suggested it would be easy.

[Yael]

5. Shes just pissed because Axelrod thought of the celestial choir first

and at a fraction of what she is paying Mark Penn.

[NoodleyAppendage]

6. So, her message is "give up hope of getting rid of special interests" ? What a STUPID position.

Campaigning against hope in a country STARVED for hope and forward-looking ideals is probably the biggest boneheaded move she's made this whole campaign.

J

[Occam Bandage]

7. It's kind of shocking. Her strategy is apparently to tell people that they're stupid for wanting

things to get better.

[Muzza]

10. No, you don't get it!

She's telling people they are stupid to believe in someone (Obama) who has NIL capacity to follow through on any of the fantasies and dreams he is shamelessly selling people! WAKE UP! HE JUST WANTS YOUR VOTE!

[Occam Bandage]

11. I'm guessing you'll last 75.

[CTLawGuy]

49. and how is Hillary going to "follow through"

send Bill????

and you wonder why they call them Billary.

[ZinZen]

53. Go back to your Hillaryis44 forum

where the "discussion" is about comparing Obama to a pet rock or Elmer Gantry or something. Seriously, you folk are off your damn rockers.

[billyoc]

LOL, That position put her old man in the White House and her in the Senate.

It's been working out great for them so far. :rofl:

[Rene]

31. The bo sheeple are stupid to think repugs are going to change cause

of pixie dust. They've got an agenda....bo has zero.

[Muzza]

8. Hardly...

She's just getting fired up! Go for it Hillary! For the MILLIONS of us who are sick and tired of Obama's FREE RIDE, she is providing a voice. Sure, this forum may be an Obama lovefest, but out there in the real world millions of people are egging Clinton on, begging her to expose this most shameless of POLITICIANS!

[Occam Bandage]

12. Free ride? Do explain.

(Apparently Hillary Clinton is not a politician)

[TheDoorbellRang]

52. Say on!

:popcorn:

[BeyondGeography]

9. The reviews are in...754 comments so far

and :thumbsdown: is waaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead.

What a shocker.

[MannyGoldstein]

13. She's Just Really, Really Angry

If she were in a good state of mind she'd say something like "Barack Obama's emphasis on bringing us together is a wonderful thing - he and I agree 100% on this. The difference between us lies in our demonstrated ability to get the job done..."

Instead we get a constant stream of "Obama is an imbecile plagiarizer cut from the loins of Karl Rove, the media and everyone else hates me because I'm a woman, states I lose don't count...". No way anyone with a brain can think that will work. And clearly, it hasn't - the more of this crap she pulls, the worse she does.

Basically, she's now throwing a $100,000,000 shit fit.

[ORDem]

16. Watch the vid. It's much worse than it looks in print. She really

pulled out all the stops to make her words dramatic. It was incredibly vicious condescending mockery of Obama. It wasn't worthy even of her. She has really lost it at this point.

:dem:

[DesertFlower]

19. i agree. nt

[MannyGoldstein]

32. Where's the Video [nt]

[City Lights]

38. Video included in this post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/24/hillary-clinton-mocks-bar_n_88194.html

[MannyGoldstein]

42. Yikes. She Has Lost It.

She needs some valium and a few good nights' sleep. I dislike the Clintons as much as anyone, but I'm starting to feel sorry for her.

[ErnestoG]

28. bingo. And "really angry" alone doesn't cut it anymore.

Anger is an energy, not a goal.

[thevoiceofreason]

41. Manny -- couldn't have said it better in a 100 years

[XemaSab]

44. I think anger is totally called for in this election.

I'm angry, and everyone I know is angry.

Are we angry with Barack Obama? No. We're angry with the BFEE, and that's where Hillary's anger should be directed towards as well.

[Cha]

50. And I guess we can thank

our Lucky Stars that they decided to go the bonkers route..The inner polls must be really bad for them to think they have to do something potentially fatal but just might be the magic bullet that sticks.

[tokenlib]

14. All that experience and she never took the time....

...to ACTUALLY LISTEN to Barack's stump speech.

Barack always talks of how difficult change is. He is honest that it will take effort...

Hillary is so FULL of crap.. but I do like the celestial choir part--it kind of feels like that when you see all the previously apathetic and discouraged people who have found a bit of hope for the future in his campaign.

[malik flavors]

15. Her chant used to be "yes we will!" Apparently now it's "no we can't!"

She's really struggling to decide what exactly her message is, and by the time she figures it out, I fear this nomination process will already be over.

[quantass]

17. Its a SERIOUS mistake by Clinton -- Making fun of his supporters does not equal votes for her

I personally think the angry approach, although looking lousy and desperate, is a better approach than this bitter mockery act she is now using....when i saw it, if i were a supporter of Obama what she did would have me scratching my head and thinking she has no chance for my vote because she is saying i am stupid? Wha??!?

She is getting desperate and its very disappointing to see someone fall like this.

[Occam Bandage]

20. It's strange. Since she's behind, she has to convince Obama supporters to switch to her.

And she does that...by mocking them?

[Danger Mouse]

23. it'll play poorly among undecided voters.

[Occam Bandage]

26. Soitenly.

[Danger Mouse]

18. Not going negative, but VICIOUS negative.

Ouch.
It hasn't helped her in the past, it's hurt her. Now she's going MORE negative?
She just wounding her own campaign even further.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

21. Whistling past the cementery!

[DesertFlower]

24. i sometimes wonder what she's like when

she's alone in her hotel room. i think of her screaming and throwing things. and if bill is around -- well i wouldn't want to be there.

i heard that she has a bad temper. back in arkansas when bill was fooling around, it was said that she ripped a cabinet door off during a temper tantrum.

[Occam Bandage]

27. I would be.

[ErnestoG]

She is rumored to have a horrible temper.

I sure do not want that sort of temperment on the GO button of the military.

[Medusa]

25. A new day

another approach for HRC. It's almost sad watching her flail away like this.

[Hutzpa]

29. Thats it I give up

one minute she is :loveya:

next minute she goes on :rant:

seconds later she gets :grr:

then after that she turns into a :cry:


what the hell is going on with her, this is becoming

intolerable can't figure her out any more, I'm

completely lost :dilemma:

[Rene]

30. Way to go Hillary...I like that righteous fire. The flyers were wrong-- bo should 've pulled them

I like that indignation when you saw something blatantly false being distributed. Gloves off my dear. You were absolutely right....that was Rove-like...distributing false info.

[Raejeanowl]

33. How Dare She Introduce Reality Into This Campaign?

What a sore loser.

[LibertyorDeath]

34. Watched this today what a sad spectacle it was

“Now I could stand up here and say, let’s get everybody together, let’s get unified the sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing,” she said, to a smattering of giggles. “And everyone will know we should do the right thing, and the world will be perfect.”

She is so Completely fucked if she thinks this will get her more votes.

She's fucked either way at this point.

[ericgtr]

35. Here's how this works

If you're for Hillary you agree, if you're for Obama you don't, if you're undecided you're turned off. That simple.

[Occam Bandage]

39. Which is awful math when you're behind.

[Danger Mouse]

40. Exactly. The Hillary supporters think it's great...

but they don't see how such viciousness turns off undecided voters.

[Cha]

36. Well, I'm glad this is out there in the NYT where

all these deluded hilarys in New York can get the latest buzz on their girl. Who else thinks hilary might be in a better position if she had played it cool the whole way? She'd still have to lie but they would be much smoother lies..harder to nail her with.

[canadian_is_cold]

37. Loved this comment off of Huff -post

HowardRoarke said-

You should have heard the rest of that speech.

"If you elect ME,
The ground will crack open,
Hellfire will erupt,
a demonic army will emerge
and everyone will know they should bow to my will
and the world WILL be perfect."

Hillary, 35 years experience in the dark arts.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/24/hillary-clinton-mocks-bar_n_88194.html

[MannyGoldstein]

43. Great Stuff!

Thanks for sharing!

[Cha]

51. Omg! That monty python 'toon

would be appropriate now. Exactly right.."35 years experience in the dark arts."..

[mudesi]

45. I don't know what in the WORLD she is thinking

Is she listening to some campaign manager? Because her political instincts are terrible.

[Occam Bandage]

46. Listening? A third of the $140MM she's spent has gone to campaign advisors and strategists.

[johnnydrama]

47. it's very telling

Edwards is angry about how there are two America's, and the loss of the middle class
Obama is angry about the partisan divide that gets nothing done in Washington
Clinton is angry at....Barack Obama and the people who voted for him.

[Occam Bandage]

48. kick

[Scurrilous]

54. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Eurobabe]

55. I think this election is giving her situational bipolar or something

:shrug:

[Occam Bandage]

56. kick

[loveangelc]

58. She has to do this tbh.

IDK if it will work or not, but honestly, if she has any chance of winning texas and ohio, she has to do something like this. Make Obama seem like someone who is just full of dreams and silly ideas about what he can do. What else is there left that she can do? She has to hope that people take another look at Obama, though it may be a little too late. Hillary is obviously a candidate who will do whatever tactics necessary to win, and this is an example...