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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:08 AM
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The Slow-Motion Implosion of Hillary Clinton’s Campaign: It Took a Village

The Candidate AGAINST Hope And Aspiration?

By Oliver Willis on February 24, 2008

Wow, this thing is going of the rails. This seems to be the positioning Sen. Clinton wants to place herself in, and the exact opposite of the majority of the Democratic primary electorate to date. Clinton is essentially saying in this tirade that touting hope and aspiration isn't the job of the presidency.

Haven't we had enough of that for the last eight years? It was her husband, after all, who succeded by telling us that he "still believes in a place called Hope".

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Hillary's America based on her campaign talking point: Give us your tired, your hungry, your poor, but don't expect us to deliver hope, especially if you live in states where the majority of people voted for our opponent. Since Hillary's campaign strategy to demonized "hope" is proving a failure, she's counting on the strategy to work:

Ad shows Hillary's vulnerability dilemma

By: Kenneth P. Vogel

CINCINNATI — A new Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign ad featuring an emotional answer the New York senator gave during Thursday’s debate highlights a central dilemma that has dogged her slipping candidacy.

On the one hand, Clinton, who’s been knocked as overly scripted, seems to connect most — particularly with women voters — during the rare times she shows emotions, generally, and vulnerability, specifically.

On the other hand, the initial premise of her campaign was that she is the safe, steady choice for commander in chief, and vulnerability erodes that image. Though the campaign has embraced moments like Thursday’s answer — and Clinton’s now-famed pre-New Hampshire primary choke-up — it has framed them not as signs of vulnerability but as proof of her deep concern for, and identification with, the American people.

The Clinton campaign’s late — and inconsistent — emphasis on Clinton’s softer side reflects a staff that has been at war with itself over how to present her and over how to fight back the unexpectedly resilient onslaught by Illinois Sen. Barack Obama’s rival campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Clinton aides are hoping for a strong sympathy vote from women in the pivotal March 4 contests in Ohio and Texas, but she continues to mix emotional appeals with ferocious attacks on Obama.

That's the moment Hillary Xeroxed Bill and Edwards.

Can someone explain why the link above at "campaign ad" goes to Hillary's donation page?

In any case, Hillary went from that touching Xeroxed moment and this, "I am honored to be here with Barack Obama. I am absolutely honored," to this:

rovian highschool mocking mentality

coming from a candidate "some would say" is republican light.

"some would say, let's get everybody together, let's get unified. the sky will open. (crowd laughs). the light will come down. celestial choirs will be singing. and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect."

mocking a fellow democratic party presidential candidate after saying that there was honor in being on the same stage as him. mocking americans who choose obama over her. mocking those who hold religious beliefs...on sunday no less. i don't know who is advising the clinton camp...but it seems that they really don't want the woman in the white house.

huffpo has the video up now.


Well so much for the "I am honored" moment, which was weird because she accused him of plagiarism earlier in the debate. All telling signs that something isn't right:

The Slow-Motion Implosion of Hillary Clinton’s Campaign: It Took a Village

February 25th, 2008 by SHAUN MULLEN

It’s not a good sign when the post-mortems are pouring in and you’re not dead.

But that is what is happening to Hillary Clinton although her latest and possibly last firewall — the Texas and Ohio primaries — is still eight days away and she still maintains the lead in some national polls.

As it is, some bloggers, myself included, have noted for some time that Clinton was in trouble. My own catharsis was expressed in a post headlined Why Hillary’s Coronation Is on Hold back on December 17.
Now the mainstream media has caught up and is echoing the obvious:
  • The strategy of running as Ms. Inevitable has been a disaster.
  • There was no Plan B for her to fall back on when Plan A came a cropper.

  • An inattention to detail, notably in organizing on the ground, matched by a misallocationof funds.
  • A fundamental misreading of the national mood.
The point at which the Clinton campaign’s slow slide became a headlong rush was the run-up to the South Carolina primary on January 19.

That was when her husband and other race-baiting surrogates unintentionally unleashed a backlash that reverberated far beyond that state that in the eyes of some voters contrasted the campaigns of a dirty-dealing Washington insider and a fresh-faced outsider.

Less obvious is that Clinton’s disastrous campaign has been a team effort and she could not have done it without the help of three other key players — George Bush, Barack Obama and an electoral pump primed for change.

Bush has been a disaster in so many ways in the last seven-plus years, Obama has caught lightning in a bottle with his vision of a new America and voters have transformed his improbable candidacy into a phenomenon.

Clinton does not need my sympathy. After losing the last 11 primaries and caucuses by wide margins, she needs a miracle. But while my head is with Obama and he is doing a pretty good job of winning my heart, I believe Clinton to be a decent person who did a lousy job of doing her homework.

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How much damage was done in SC: Hillary is still apologizing for Bill. Even so, Mullen's is generous criticism. This is blunt, from Andrew Sullivan:

Watching senator Clinton attempt to regain some lift as she paraglides into history is almost enough to evoke pity. Almost. The Clintons come with their own boundless reserves of self-pity so further reinforcements seem unnecessary to me. And I suppose they could somehow still find a brutal, soul-grinding path to the nomination. But we've learned something important these past couple of weeks.

Clinton is a terrible manager of people. Coming into a campaign she had been planning for, what, two decades, she was so not ready on Day One, or even Day 300. Her White House, if we can glean anything from the campaign, would be a secretive nest of well-fed yes-people, an uncontrollable egomaniac spouse able and willing to bigfoot anyone if he wants to, a phalanx of flunkies who cannot tell the boss when things are wrong, and a drizzle of dreary hacks like Mark Penn. Her only genuine skill is pivoting off the Limbaugh machine (which is now as played out as its enemies). Her new weapon is apparently bursting into tears. I mean: really.

It's staggering to me that she blew through so much money for close to nothing (apart from the donuts). Without that media meltdown in New Hampshire, she would have been forced to bow out much earlier. She didn't plan for contests after Super Tuesday. She barely planned for any before that. She was out-organized in Iowa and South Carolina, and engaged in the pettiest form of politics in Florida and Michigan. Her fundraising operation was very pre-Internet. She has no message that isn't about her and the Republicans. Her trump card - Bill - managed to foment a 27 point loss in South Carolina. The Clintons, we can now safely say, got lazy. Or rather their old and now forgotten lackadaisical attitude toward governing returned like a persistent flu to campaigning. We tend to forget that their entire governing agenda after 1994 was essentially finessing Gingrich and battling impeachment. (Their entire agenda before 1994 was successful Eisenhower economics, and disastrous Hillarycare). It's been fifteen years since the Clintons actually stood for a coherent message, and it turns out they had forgotten that you kind of need that for a presidential run.

How did they come this close to losing this? They had all the money, all the contacts, all the machine levers, the entire establishment, the biggest Democratic name in decades, and they've been forced into a humiliating death-match by a first-term black liberal with a funny name. It seems obvious to me that the Clintons blew this because they never for a second imagined they could. So they never planned to fight it. Once put in a fair contest, they turned out to be terrible campaigners, terrible politicians, bad managers, useless executives, wooden public speakers. If you're a Democrat, that's good to know, isn't it? All that bullshit about Day One and experience? In retrospect: laughable.

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There is another weird twist to Hillary campaign's attacks against Obama, the McCain factor. It appears there is collusion between
Hillary Clinton's chief strategist Mark Penn and John McCain's top adviser Charlie Black:

  1. Plagiarism-gate: Before the Deval Patrick brouhaha, the McCain and Clinton camps both accused Obama of "stealing" policy proposals from Clinton in Wisconsin.
  2. Both Clinton and McCain have challenged Obama's readiness to be commander in chief.
  3. After Thursday's debate, both Clinton and McCain attacked Obama on Cuba.
  4. Clinton's mocking attack today was very similar in tone to McCain's mocking attack after the Potomac Primary.


Hillary and McCain attack Obama on accepting public financing.

Way too many coincidences.

Bill Clinton: John McCain and Hillary are 'very close':

"She and John McCain are very close," Clinton said. "They always laugh that if they wound up being the nominees of their party, it would be the most civilized election in American history, and they're afraid they'd put the voters to sleep because they like and respect each other."




Hillary surrogate's McCain lovefest: Taylor Marsh smears Obama, praises McCain's character and Who Gets the Reagan Democrats?






To anyone watching this campaign, it should be clear that Hillary is not a victim. She is manipulative and prepared to go as nasty as required to try to win. She mismanaged her campaign and underestimated Obama and his campaign.

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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:12 AM
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1. excellent
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 11:12 AM by MBS
fully documented, and illustrated, in trademark Prosense style!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:29 PM
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15. Thanks! What is with
that bizarre image of McCain?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:12 AM
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2. wow they really love each other, a lot! that is kinda wierd
we know what mccain is attracted to.
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:14 AM
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3. I don't know how anyone can support Hillary Clinton
It's fairly obvious she's in bed with McCain and the republicans. It makes me puke. :puke:
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:44 PM
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9. Umm...
Don't look now, but you're sporting a Hillary avatar.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:14 AM
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4. You are such an asset to this community.
And you bring up a valid assertion about the collusion of Hillary Clinton and John McCain.

There are many coincidental methods of attack between the two.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:51 PM
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13. As I have said many times, ProSense deserves a 10 thread a day limit
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:32 PM
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16. Penn can only lose if Obama wins - that's why he's arguing to go negative, even if it hurst the Dem
party in the fall.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:36 AM
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5. Thanks for
comments and recs all!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:05 PM
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6. Great work...again! nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:35 PM
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7. Thanks!
The denial that Hillary is running a dirty campaign is appalling.

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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:38 PM
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8. She is so jealous of Obama's campaign - the mocking of it
is immature. I expect more professionalism from someone with "35 years experience".
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:47 PM
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10. The meltdown and implosion of Hillary's campaign is historic.
It's been the worst run campaign in modern history.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:49 PM
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11. In a nutshell.
A meticulously documented nutshell.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:51 PM
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12. Excellent OP, really appreciate this info brought together in one post. K & R.
n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:22 PM
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14. Hillary: Obama as a dangerous risk on foreign affairs
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 03:22 PM by ProSense
Hillary Clinton Monday portrayed her Democratic foe Barack Obama as a dangerous risk on foreign affairs, implying he would need an instruction manual on the world's hot-spots if elected president.

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More fear mongering.

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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:33 PM
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17. isn't displaying vast emotional swings a dangerous risk against the country?
Why would anyone vote for somebody that is acting like the political equivalent of Britney Spears(aka bipolar)? Ok one day and off the deep the next.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:07 PM
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19. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:48 PM
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20. You're vile! n/t
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:55 PM
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21. Check out the post to which I was replying.
If you wish to align yourself with the "hysterical female, mood swing, bi-polar, PMS" accusers, spare me the bullshit faux outrage when I throw it back in your fucking face!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:57 PM
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22. Your comment is vile! n/t
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:05 PM
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24. If the shoe fits ...
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 10:07 PM by 11 Bravo
It was your friends who accused Hillary of not only making political hay out of the death of a motorcycle cop, but one asshat actually accused her of orchestrating the accident. Now the meme from your camp is that Senator Clinton suffers from all kinds of "chick-related" maladies. Face it, you hang out with whack jobs, sweetheart, and when you get called on it, you need to come back back with something a bit more substantive than "OOOH, that's not nice."
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:08 PM
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25. "Face it, you hang out with whack jobs, sweetheart," I'm not your sweetheart, trust me on that. n/t
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:12 PM
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26. Way to avoid the point.
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 10:16 PM by 11 Bravo
Care to address the substance of my response, or will you fall back once again on the trademark NoSense response of n/t? (As in not/thinking?)

And no, you are not my sweetheart, I do trust you on that. In fact, that may be the only thing you have ever posted that I do trust you on, but just to be sure, can you possible link it to 10 or more of your previous tedious bullshit posts?
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:37 PM
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28. HaHa You make a point of Sexism then you call her "Sweetheart"
They really do make grunts dumb. You're logic circuits are rusty.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 07:39 AM
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32. Sweetheart is a gender neutral term.
My 85 year old father calls me sweetheart. I call my sons sweetheart. When old ladies thank me for helping them across the street, I respond, "You're welcome, sweetheart." (By the way, when calling someone dumb, it's generally a good idea not to confuse "you're" with "your". Then again, I'm just a dumb ex-grunt, while you clearly are possessed of a superior intellect, right, genius?)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:06 PM
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44. Huh?
Why are you exploiting the motorcycle accident tragedy to attack Obama supporters?
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 03:43 AM
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54. ..
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 06:50 PM
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37. Please remove your stinking turd of a post
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:16 PM
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41. Go Diddle Yourself!....you obviously need something and can't find it.
Edited on Wed Feb-27-08 09:17 PM by KoKo01
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:02 PM
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18. K & R
:thumbsup:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:03 PM
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23. Thanks for another excellent post!
K&R :toast:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:15 PM
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27. I've got more of an Andrew Sullivan
type take on this whole hilary and bil fiasco. Excellent work ProSense..thank you so much for all the complilation of the hilaryland campaign, so far.

"mocking a fellow democratic party presidential candidate after saying that there was honor in being on the same stage as him. mocking americans who choose obama over her. mocking those who hold religious beliefs...on sunday no less. i don't know who is advising the clinton camp...but it seems that they really don't want the woman in the white house."

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:46 PM
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29. Tale of the Tape (Obama's climb since mid Jan.)
Tale of the Tape:

CBS News/NYT national poll:

Jan 13: Clinton 42%, Obama 27%
Feb 3: Clinton 41%, Obama 41%
Feb 25: Obama 54%, Clinton 38%


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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:50 PM
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30. "The strategy of running as Ms. Inevitable has been a disaster."
That sums it up, right there.
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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:59 PM
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31. Exceptional work there pro
I don't know where you find the time...and sorry about the off-color comments up-thread.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:46 PM
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34. Thank you. Good news:
Two more DC superdelegates endorse Obama:


Washington, DC – Two more superdelegates have endorsed Barack Obama today. Shadow United States Senators Paul Strauss and Michael D. Brown endorsed Obama, citing his longstanding commitment to the rights of DC residents and his ability to unite Americans to bring change.

Senator Paul Strauss said, “I am excited to endorse Barack Obama today. Barack Obama has been a leader for promoting unity and equality for all Americans, and has shown a steadfast commitment to the DC voting rights and full representation in Congress.

“We feel strongly that we should use our vote to uphold the will of the people who by decisive margins chose Barack Obama in contests across the country and by our region’s voters in the Potomac Primaries. Barack Obama inspired voters from every part of Washington, DC to turn out on Primary Day and give him victories in every single voting precinct. His diverse experience, from his days as an urban community organizer, to his service in the US Senate, proves he is qualified and ready to unite us and lead our nation. “

“Senator Hillary Clinton has also served the American people well and has been a fighter for DC’s rights, but it is our considered belief that Senator Obama is the best person, at this time in the history of our nation, to lead us all into the future.”

Senator Michael D. Brown said, “I wholeheartedly give my endorsement to Senator Barack Obama with the audacious hope that the change he brings to America will include the full restoration of rights to the 600,000 good citizens of the District of Columbia. I proudly stand with my constituents in supporting his candidacy and pledge my assistance to help him win the nomination of our party and become the next President of the United States.”

Senator Obama said, “I thank Senators Strauss and Brown for their support. Even without the vote, they have always been strong advocates for the rights of DC residents -- rights I will continue to support as President. And I look forward to working with them and Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton and Mayor Adrian Fenty in the months ahead to bring about real change not just in the District of Columbia, but all across this country.”


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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 08:33 PM
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39. Thats great...thanks
plus Dodd,Lewis, and Dorgan....I smell a landslide..maybe a reverse McGovern.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 10:14 AM
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33. Team Clinton: Down, and Out of Touch

Team Clinton: Down, and Out of Touch

By Dana Milbank
Tuesday, February 26, 2008; Page A02

As Vice President Cheney knows, such predictions can be perilous. Still, there was no mistaking a certain flailing, a lashing-out, as two Clinton advisers sat down for a bacon-and-eggs session yesterday at the St. Regis Hotel.

<...>

First came Harold Ickes, who gave a presentation about Hillary Rodham Clinton's prospects that severed all ties with reality. "We're on the way to locking this nomination down," he said of a candidate who appears, if anything, headed in the other direction.

But before the breakfast crowd had a chance to digest that, they were served another, stranger course by Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer. Asked about an accusation on the Drudge Report that Clinton staffers had circulated a photo of Barack Obama wearing Somali tribal dress, Singer let 'er rip.

"I find it interesting that in a room of such esteemed journalists that Mr. Drudge has become your respected assignment editor," he lectured. "I find it to be a reflection of one of the problems that's gone on with the overall coverage of this campaign." He went on to chide the journalists for their "woefully inadequate" coverage of Obama, "a point that has been certainly backed up by the 'Saturday Night Live' skit that opened the show this past Saturday evening, which I would refer you all to."

The brief moment explained everything about the bitter relations between Clinton's campaign and the media: Singer taunting the likes of Broder, who began covering presidential politics two decades before Singer was born, with a comedy sketch that showed debate moderators fawning over Obama.

"That's your assignment editor?" responded Post columnist Ruth Marcus.

"That's my assignment editor," Singer affirmed.

That Clinton's spokesman is taking his cues from late-night comedy is as good an indication as any of where things stand in the onetime front-runner's campaign. To keep the press from declaring the race over before the voters of Ohio and Texas have their say next week, Clinton aides have resorted to a mixture of surreal happy talk and angry accusation.

Yesterday, Ickes played the good cop. "We think we are on the verge of our next up cycle," he reported, even suggesting the apparent impossibility that Clinton "may be running even" with Obama when all the contests are over. "This race is very close," he judged. "This is tight as a tick."

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 05:13 PM
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35. This is a great speech and one that shows the real difference between Hillary and Obama.
Machinist's Union TELLS it like it is

Machinists Union President Tom Buffenbarger, introducing Clinton, talks about Maytag. He talks the betrayal by Barack Obama, who only gave those Maytag workers a speech. WORDS. Baloney. But then Obama collected huge sums from the Crown family of Chicago, owners of Maytag who shipped those workers’ jobs out of the country. The Crown patriarch says that when he talked to Barack Obama, the subject of those jobs NEVER came up. WOW. Now, the snooty press reports — like that of Politico — leave OUT the part about the story of the Machinists’ Union, concentrating on a few phrases union president Buffenbarger used.


http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/20/machinists-union-tells-it-like-it-is/
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:58 PM
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50. "Tom Buffenbarger"? "betrayal by Barack Obama"?
Is that Buffenbarger character the one who repeated the talking point that the states that Obama won don't count?

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 05:49 PM
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36. Panetta's Lament: They Had No Plan
Panetta's Lament: They Had No Plan:

In an interview with The Observer, Mr. Panetta compared Mrs. Clinton’s top strategist Mark Penn to Karl Rove, suggested that the Clinton campaign had totally underestimated Barack Obama’s appeal, and complained about the overall lack of planning that he said had characterized the former First Lady’s bid to return to the White House.

Mr. Panetta, who served as chief of staff in the White House from July 1994 to January 1997, and who has contributed $2000 to Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign, complained that Mr. Penn “is a political pollster from the past.”

”I never considered him someone who would run a national campaign for the presidency,” he said.

He asserted that Mr. Penn “comes from an old school, like Karl Rove—it’s all about dividing people into smaller groups rather than taking the broader approach that was needed.”

Referring to Barack Obama, he said, “I think he really captured early on this deep feeling in the country about needing change in Washington. And people have underestimated how deep that sense was, just how much people felt the need for change.”

Mr. Panetta added that “for the money they brought in” the Clinton campaign “should have done a much better job.”

On the now-deposed campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle, Mr. Panetta said, “Solis was someone who was obviously close to the First Lady and had good relations with her, but again she didn’t have the experience that you need.”

Mr. Panetta served for 16 years in Congress prior to taking up his Clinton White House position and is now a director of the Panetta Institute, a nonpartisan center for the study of public policy at California State University.

Aside from his criticisms of specific people at the top of Mrs. Clinton’s team, he also asserted that the campaign in general had neither created an efficient ground operation nor shown tactical wisdom in its deployment of available resources.

“It seems to me like they rolled the dice on Super Tuesday, thinking that would end it,” he said. “And when it didn’t end it, they didn’t have a plan. And when it came to the caucus states, they did have a plan—which was to ignore them. I think those were serious mistakes.”


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 06:53 PM
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38. Geeze....doesn't sound like a very positive appraisal from
Clinton's Chief of Staff!

" the campaign in general had neither created an efficient ground operation nor shown tactical wisdom in its deployment of available resources."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-27-08 09:14 PM
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40. Look to "Neo-Gore".........he is "THE ONE!"
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 12:13 PM
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42. Houston superdelegate switches support to Obama
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 12:13 PM by ProSense
Feb. 27, 2008, 10:24PM

Houston superdelegate switches support to Obama

AUSTIN — Democratic superdelegate and state Rep. Senfronia Thompson, of Houston, defected from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign Wednesday and joined a growing list of superdelegates to endorse Sen. Barack Obama for president, according to his campaign.

"I'm honored to have earned the support of Representative Thompson and am pleased that she'll play an important role in advancing our grassroots movement for change in Houston and across Texas," Obama said in a statement. "Throughout her three decades in the Legislature, she's been a tireless advocate for working families and when I'm president we'll work together to put the American dream within reach of every child in Texas and across our country."

Thompson, one of the longest serving Democrats in the state House, is one of the party insiders who, as a superdelegate, help choose the Democratic nominee at the national convention this summer in Denver.

Her defection was the second loss of the day for Clinton: Civil rights leader and Atlanta congressman John Lewis, a Democratic congressman from Atlanta, is the most prominent black leader to defect from Clinton's campaign in the face of recent near-unanimous black support for Obama.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:04 PM
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43. According to Harold Ickes, it took Mark Penn
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 04:06 PM by ProSense

Ickes: Mark Penn Is Responsible For Hillary Campaign

By Greg Sargent - February 28, 2008, 2:57PM
More infighting in Camp Hillary? Clinton adviser Harold Ickes seems to stick the knife in Mark Penn in an interview with The New York Observer...

“Mark Penn has run this campaign,” said Ickes in a brief phone interview this morning. “Besides Hillary Clinton, he is the single most responsible person for this campaign.

“Now, he has been circumscribed to some extent by Maggie Williams,” said Ickes, who then pointed out that that was only a recent development.

When asked about the assertion by one senior Clinton official the campaign was effectively run by committee, diluting Penn’s authority, Ickes was incredulous.

“I don’t know what campaign you’re talking about,” said Ickes. “I have been at meetings where he introduces himself as the campaign’s chief strategist. I’ve heard him call himself that many times, say, ‘I am the chief strategist.’”

Asked if Penn preferred the title of chief strategist to pollster, Ickes said, “Prefer it? He insists on it!”

When asked if Penn was therefore responsible for the campaign’s strategy, Ickes said, “It’s pretty plain for anyone to see that he has shaped the strategy of the campaign. He has called the shots.”

“Mark Penn,” he said, “has dominated the message in this campaign. Dominated it.”

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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:13 PM
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45. Wow, that picture is very telling.
thanks for a very well-done and informational post, ProSense! K & R

:yourock:

:kick:
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 04:18 PM
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46. Hillary and the DLC are joined at the hip
Hillary has run a pathetic race and her administration would be equally horrible.

Her anti-hope and despair campaign will go into history books as a signpost to all as to what not to do! :rofl:


Out with the bums!

Its a new day with new leaders!

:party:GOBAMA!:party:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:25 PM
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47. Hillary Xeroxes McCain: 3 a.m.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:05 PM
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48. "I don't think anyone can stop her"

Clinton's surprising roller-coaster ride

By NANCY BENAC, Associated Press Writer

<...>

When Clinton joined the race in January 2007 with a cozy Webcast from her living room couch, the notion of a former first lady-turned-senator running to be the first female president was so new, so different, she quickly eclipsed rival candidates such as Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, all seasoned politicians with solid credentials.

"I'm in to win," Clinton proclaimed. And she had the money to back up her bravado.

"I don't think anyone can stop her," John Catsimatidis, a New York businessman and member of Clinton's finance team, trumpeted in February 2007. "She's unstoppable; she's got such a machine."

Clinton, intent on keeping 2000 nominee Al Gore out of the race, seemed to regard all other rivals as "Lilliputians," says Democratic pollster Peter Hart

Her Democratic opponents didn't buy it, though, and neither did the public.

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Hillary's campaign blames the media







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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:21 PM
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49. Hillary for McCain
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:27 PM
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51. Expect the fighting and
parallel Hillary/McCain attacks to continue.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 10:32 PM
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52. Rod Parsley
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 04:40 PM
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53. Hillary endorses McCain again
In a Cabinet-style setting, surrounded by retired military leaders, Sen. Hillary Clinton said the public should ask whether Democratic presidential rival Barack Obama has met the criteria needed to become the nation’s commander in chief.

“I think that since we now know Sen. (John) McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

“I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said.

Calling McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee a good friend and a “distinguished man with a great history of service to our country,” Clinton said, “Both of us will be on that stage having crossed that threshold. That is a critical criterion for the next Democratic nominee to deal with.”

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 04:37 PM
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55. McCain endorses Hillary's 3 AM ad
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