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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:26 AM
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Hillary doesn't mind pictures of her in traditional clothing being published. Why is Obama so upset?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Clintons_response_the_days_Drudge.html

The Clinton campaign puts out a response from Maggie Williams, which doesn't respond to the question of whether a staffer was circulating the photo of Obama in Somali garb, but takes issue with the Obama campaign's embrace of the issue:

Enough.

If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely.


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Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:27 AM
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1. because he is running a republican standard campaign.
he can dish, but he cries holy murder when it gets dished back.


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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:18 PM
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20. Great distraction from Hillary's downturn, see below

Don't Look at How Badly Hillary's campaign is sinking

look at this instead:

There have been 12 duplicate threads posted about the Clinton campaign circulating a photo of Obama in "muslim" garb
6 duplicates trying to defend Hillary Clinton for this, and 6 duplicates condemning this smear campaign.

Absolutely NO PROOF anyone from Clinton camp connected in anyway to 'the photo' Mon Feb-25-08 11:02 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758267&mesg_id=4758267

There's NO proof the Clinton campaign approved of the Drudge pic. So, he's a legitimate source now?? Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758517

*WHY* is it a "smear photo"? Mon Feb-25-08 11:30 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758733&mesg_id=4758733

To address the recent Drudge photo...Mon Feb-25-08 11:49 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4759060

Hillary doesn't mind pictures of her in traditional clothing being published. Why is Obama so upset? Mon Feb-25-08 11:26 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758646

RETHUGS sent the Photo! Mon Feb-25-08 11:57 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4759207&mesg_id=4759207

rebuttal

Politico: Obama slams smear photo Mon Feb-25-08 10:11 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4757652&mesg_id=4757652

The Clinton goes ON RECORD re: PHOTO SMEAR and DOES NOT DENY, just change subject Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758523&mesg_id=4758523

in addition to being a low political move, distributing that photo would be an offense to muslims Mon Feb-25-08 11:37 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758867

Hillary's use of Islamophobia against Obama, will hurt our Democratic candidate for Congress Mon Feb-25-08 11:21 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758564

As long as Clinton supporters can blame Drudge the HRC camp will never be called on race baiting Mon Feb-25-08 10:10 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4757636&mesg_id=4757636

Why is there so much spectulation as to where the photo came from? Mon Feb-25-08 11:41 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758939





People should be worried to hear of the connections between the Clinton and McCain campaign advisors, or the fact that Obama has won 25 contests, Hillary only 11. This cute distraction seems to be working.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:27 AM
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2. If Obama were to send out a picture of her in a headdress, and insinuate
that McCain was going to call her "weak on terror" because of it, her campaign would rightfully cry foul.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:35 AM
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10. There is already a picture of her in a head dress,
and I missed it if there was some sort of insinuation that was made with the picture.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:29 AM
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3. First they have to answer the question
Did they circulate the photo to reporters and what was their motive?

Until then nothing else her camp says matters.
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:37 AM
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12. Drudge headline
clearly states: "CLINTON STAFFERS CIRCULATE 'DRESSED' OBAMA"

He is clearly stated that it came from the Clinton Camp.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:40 AM
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13. But Drudge is clearly Drudge.
nt
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:09 PM
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18. True but it wouln't be the first time the Clintons leaked something to Drudge
They reportedly did it when they were trying to claim that the boys were ganging up on her during a debate.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:58 PM
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23. Oh sure, Drudge is to be trusted because" he is clearly stated
that it came from the Clinton camp." It appears that some people don't know a helluva' lot about
Drudge's tactics. Those who have observed Drudge for many years know that he is not to be trusted to tell the truth, especially when it involves his 'liberal enemies'.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:30 AM
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4. Hillary was never accused of being a muslim
You know why this photo could be damaging to Obama
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:06 PM
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16. Bingo. Those supporting its use in the campaign are being disingenuous.
If I read one more post that "it's just a photo" from a Hillary supporter here I will be tempted to hurl. Everyone knows damned well why it's being used - to reinforce the lying smear campaign about Obama being a Muslim. If this is being done by Hillary's campaign, she has much to answer for.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:30 AM
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5. Because his name is 'Barack' and it pushes the false meme that he is muslim. You really that dense?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:30 AM
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6. um, duh, because the hellary campaign is trying
to insinuate something here. Now, what do you suppose that could be?
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:36 AM
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11. Well, at least they didn't photoshop a bin Laden beard on his face
Maybe that's next?:shrug:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:33 AM
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7. I think it is a question of context. Usually when campaigns circulate photos of the opposition
they are not trying to be helpful to the opposing candidate. Let's not get cute here. It was a blunder that came at a bad time and is indicative of a campaign that is floundering.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:03 PM
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15. Other than Drudge, is there any source linking the Clinton campaign to this?
nt
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:11 PM
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19. Well there is this defensive response from Maggie Williams that speaks volumes.
'Clinton campaign manager Maggie Williams tried to turn the tables on Obama's campaign Monday, releasing a blistering statement that did little to disabuse the notion Clinton's staffers were behind the photo's distribution.

“If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely," Williams wrote in an e-mail to reporters. "This is nothing more than an obvious and transparent attempt to distract from the serious issues confronting our country today and to attempt to create the very divisions they claim to decry. We will not be distracted.”'


http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_campaign_blasts_Cli...

Still think there is no link?

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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:34 AM
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8. So what was their point in emphasizing that photo?
If they did not intend to turn voters off with it, why release it?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:41 AM
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14. Who is "they"?
nt
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:35 AM
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9. hmmm. could it be the intended effectes of circulating each photo?
or are we all gonna keep pretending to be STUPID?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:08 PM
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17. Does this really require an explanation?
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Somebody, be it freepers, the Hillary campaign, Ralph Nader, who knows... is most likely attempting to use it to prop up the Obama-is-a-Muslim bullshit. The Freepers had a field day with that photo a while back.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:39 PM
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22. Well it sure as heck isn't Ralph Nader -- he is Syrian Christian.
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 02:48 PM by Leopolds Ghost
just like Barack is the Christian son of Swahili (?) father.

In Swahili which is one of the national languages of the former
East African colonies of Oman, there are many loan-words and
naming conventions taken directly from Arabic, just as there
is a lot of French spoken in southern Louisiana, a former
colony of France. Nobody ever accuses them of being "too
french" for dressing up as Cajuns. Oh, wait.

Somalia considers itself a Middle Eastern nation despite
the fact that they are more closely related to Ethiopians.

They don't much like Kenyans and Ethiopians AT ALL -- they
distinguish themselves from black africans, and they don't
like Ethiopians period.

As such, they can be expected to be devout Muslims, just as
people in Texas who are not "Southern" can nevertheless
be expected to be devout Christians.

Kenya and Tanzania, however, are strictly African nations
that happened to be former colonies of Oman, ruled by the
sultan of Zanzibar. The Swahili, the ruling caste of Zanzibar
and everyone's favorite African language, imported Arabic into
the region. They were black slave-owners and slave-traders,
like many of the ruling coastal elites (the Kongo and Benin).

German is also popular there because the Germans took over
Kenya from Oman.

The region of Somaliland is a peaceful former Italian colony
that is at peace with its neighbors, unlike the US-occupied
Somali heartland to the south that the US recently funded
another invasion by Ethiopian Christian army backed by US
gunboats, to wipe out local militias that were deemed "too muslim".

I'm sure Hillary & co. whole-heartedly backed that invasion.

Many Christian rulers of the Crusader states spoke Arabic
and exported Arab customs, dress, and architecture to Europe,
creating Renaissance art and Gothic architecture in the process.
In light of that fact, what does Hillary have against it?
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:25 PM
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21. Oh, heavens, he couldn't possibly be bothered by all this
Because we all know that no one in this country has a problem with Muslims, so being portrayed as one shouldn't bother him at all. It's not like anyone is trying to portray him as a Manchurian candidate.

Your innocent act is pretty lame.
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