How soon we forget - Clinton campaign/Drudge

[Debi]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/us/politics/22drudge.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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But, typical of a campaign with a reputation for exploiting every advantage and trying to neutralize every disadvantage, Mrs. Clinton’s communications team, led by Howard Wolfson, is not leaving Mr. Drudge to the Republicans. Five current and former Democratic officials said Mrs. Clinton has on her side the closest thing her party has ever had to Mr. Rhoades in Tracy Sefl, a former Democratic National Committee official, who has established a friendly working relationship with Mr. Drudge — and through whom Mrs. Clinton’s campaign often worked quietly to open a line of communication.

That effort has helped to mix some positive stories in with the negative fare about Mrs. Clinton that Mr. Drudge still serves up regularly, they said, though Ms. Sefl’s fingerprints are usually impossible to spot.

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[Blue_State_Elitist]

1. I can't remember the last time Drudge had a really pro-Clinton headline.

[Debi]

6. I guess that clears everything up n/t

[papau]

2. "fingerprints are usually impossible to spot" - can we say a planted pretend Obama story

It is a bit pathetic that the Obama folks deny his smear/play the race card/lie campaign - or that those
"left" ideas are per Obama "on the table" to trade for GOP love and changing the atmosphere in DC.

The best part has been Obama stopping discussion of his lack of political ability to get left type victories of any size - by play the race card and getting 24/7 discussion of the "race card" - all by using his folks to say they saw racial undertones in comments by Clinton supporters - while he let it boil for a few weeks until he finally said the Clintons were not racists (not noting anything they had accomplished for blacks - like better jobs/income) but then claiming Hillary should be faulted for lack of control of all who support her - only 4 weeks later when he unleashed a few slurs/smears via supporters he claimed it was silly to assume anyone could control their supporters.

The walk on water sale via a GOP organizations/corporate media that has had its emails explaining its support of Obama as an attempt to get the weaker candidate printed on DU many times seems to work well with the men that are afraid of a women in authority.

[antigop]

3. Here is what TPM says

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/179989.php

We spent the better part of the morning trying to do is get some comment from the Clinton campaign. For the first hour or more we couldn't get any anything. Then we got this statement in which the Clinton camp says Obama should be "ashamed" at saying the picture is "divisive," without addressing one way or another what they're accused of doing.

[City Lights]

4. More "shame" lecturing from Mommy Dearest.

She can kiss my ass. :thumbsdown:

[CoffeeCat]

5. I've gone from despising her politics...

...to despising her and hoping that she loses her Senate seat.

She's a complete abomination---as a politician and as a human being.

She has no moral floor or ceiling. She'll go as low as possible, or as over-the-top as possible
to destroy an opponent--even if that person is a fellow Democrat.

Hillary not only has terrible ideas and policies, she's showing us what a disgusting
human being she is.

I hope the voters of New York remember what a bitter ass she is.

She should have NO PLACE in ANY ELECTED OFFICE!

She is an embarrassment to our party.

[Debi]

8. I'm starting to agree with your last line there

Her behavior this past weekend will be held against the next woman who runs for President. She's not just damaging her campaign she damaging future campaigns.

[City Lights]

17. Let's hope our party rejects her. Soundly.

We deserve better.

[arewenotdemo]

19. Agree completely.

[Debi]

7. Seems that a yes or no question deserves a yes or no response n/t

[antigop]

11. I agree. n/t

[papau]

27. A 2/7 GOP media photo that went to 3 million is now a problem for Obama?

Here is a link to a conservative blog that contains a photo of the page from the February 4th 2008 National Enquirer smear story about Barack Obama that contained the picture of him in traditional African garb:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-ge...

The story was titled:

"Obama's Shocking Al Qaeda Link"

Here are the circulation figures that the National Enquirer releases about their rag:

"Place a classified ad in the National Enquirer. This weekly tabloid has excellent circulation at 2,760,000. Ad is placed in the classified area of the magazine under the appropriate category. Certain restrictions apply, and ads must meet the approval requirements of the National Enquirer. Circulation: 2,760,000."

http://www.nationwideadvertising.com/naten.html

Do you think an internal Clinton staff email discussing the photo just broke this news to American voters?

[anigbrowl]

39. Untrue. Why are you still misreporting this?

The FACTS: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4762985

[stillcool]

12. Can we say....

Memories, light the corners of my mind. Misty water-colored memories of the way we were

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET

The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
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Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
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Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused. I made unfortunate comments that do not accurately reflect my bipartisan conviction, political philosophy, or most importantly, my opinions about Senator Obama and his historic campaign for the United States presidency."

Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html

January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

Scattered pictures, of the smiles we left behind. Smiles we gave to one another for the way we were

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008

The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says.

Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proud Democrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

If we had the chance to do it all again tell me, would we? Could we? Memories, may be beautiful and yet What's too painful to remember we simply choose to forget

[Debi]

15. Times like these that I wish I could rec an individual post

:hi:

[Tarheel_Dem]

20. stillcool...that is an amazing compilation...

and i agree it deserves its own thread. thanks for sharing..

[stillcool]

34. it's up...

check it out...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4762186&mesg_id=4762186

[CoffeeCat]

24. Please make this it's own thread!

You have to make this post an original thread.

Please!

This deserves more attention!

I saw the Clinton abuse pattern play out in Iowa. This is just more
of the same. Your post clearly shows that this is a common thread
that is woven through her entire campaign.

Yes, we get apologies, but after the damage is unleashed, an apology
means nothing.

Please---start a thread with this post!

[stillcool]

28. I am so reluctant..

I posted it a couple of days ago..and to tell you the truth it's been fun refuting the recycled crap. But since you're one of several that has asked me too...I will. Got a name for the title? :hi:

[CoffeeCat]

32. I like your Hillary/memories...

...connection.

You could play with that a bit.

Hillary--The Way We Were

Great post!

:hi:

[stillcool]

33. thanks! off I go...

[stillcool]

35. I did...Hillary..the way it was..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4762186&mesg_id=4762186

[SIMPLYB1980]

36. Yum spam.

[stillcool]

38. It's a 'shame' isn't it?

people keep on recycling the same old lies, and I keep on having to refute with the same old truth. It's a good think I've cut so much of it out, eh? After all, I can't post ALL of the lies the Clinton campaign has told.

[carlotta]

9. All you have to do is look at Drudge's site....

to see that all of the smears are anti-Clinton. Typical Drudge style would be to have shown the photo of Obama with a headline "MUSLIM????" No, he uses the photo to blame the Clinton campaign. "Clinton Staff Circulates "Dressed Obama" photo. He also refers to it as a "Smear Photo" in another headline. Then he has the "Hillary defended rapist and yelled at child" story.

Isn't it clear whose side Drudge is on. And it's been this way the entire campaign. Haven't you noticed all the smiling Obama and angry Hillary pictures he posts every day.

Get real.

[Debi]

13. Ooohhh .... Get Real .... That would make a great campaign slogan

for a week or so until Million-dollar Mark Penn comes up with a new one :hi:

I didn't write the NYT story - just posted it.

[Hobarticus]

10. "Mix some positive stories in"...that's a pretty weak mix...

From what I've seen over there.

[Debi]

14. Hey Hobarticus

Haven't seen you in ages.

:hi:

[Hobarticus]

16. Say hey HEY Debi...

How you doin'?

Had enough of this winter, yet?

[Debi]

22. Go over to the Iowa Forum..

rurallib has apologized for bringing us bad karma with his 'won't have any snow this winter' thread and has offered to sacrifice a virgin to get the snow to stop (I volunteered Counciltucky :evilgrin:). Since nobody stepped up to the plate we keep getting hit with storms!

Looks like we're going to get walloped again tonight x( Ugh.

Stay warm and safe!

d.

[Tatiana]

18. How soon we forget....

Hillary Campaign Acknowledges That County Chair Backing Hillary Passed Along Obama Muslim Smear Email
By Greg Sargent - December 5, 2007, 1:31PM
A day after the Hillary campaign hit the Obama camp for bullying voters in nasty phone calls, the Hillary crew has just acknowledged that an Iowa county chair volunteering for the campaign passed along the now-notorious email that smears Obama as a Muslim by repeating the false claim that he attended a madrassa as a child.

The Hillary campaign confirms that they are asking the county chair to step down from the campaign.

The charge was made by a Daily Kos diarist who identified himself as planning to "caucus" for Chris Dodd, suggesting that this happened in Iowa. In his diary he http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/12/4/95938/1959/821#c821">reported receiving the email:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/12/hillary_campaign_acknowledges_that_hillary_backer_passed_along_obama_madrassa_email.php

[Debi]

23. Gee, almost seems organized doesn't it? n/t

[Metric System]

21. If the Clinton camp sent it to Drudge and there was some kind of working relationship going on, then

you'd think that Sludge wouldn't use the headline "CLINTON STAFFERS CIRCULATE 'DRESSED' OBAMA." Use logic here. The way Sludge has framed it makes the Clinton camp look bad so I don't see how some here can claim that there's a partnership between Clinton and Sludge. If there was a relationship then you'd think that Sludge would have attributed the photo to an anonymous source. I'm convinced this is a RW smear designed to damage both Clinton and Obama. It serves to make Clinton look bad to Democrats and it serves to make Obama look bad to potential Rethug voters. And don't forget, this photo has been circulating for a while now on places like Free Republic.

[Debi]

25. I didn't write the NYT story

complain to them.

If the Clinton camp didn't alert Drudge to the story or provide the photo all they have to do is say so.

I'll wait here.

[robbedvoter]

26. NYT??????

[Debi]

30. Is the NYT now considered a non-credible source? n/t

[Straight Shooter]

29. Drudge broke the Monica scandal.

How soon we forget, indeed.

[Debi]

31. Read the story - you'll find out just how political calculating

some people can be.

[JimGinPA]

37. Hillary Will Do Anything To Win...

The Democratic party is not important to her. She's proven that numerous times.

[Debi]

40. You got it - including forming a working relationship with slimeball Drudge n/t