Can we have some sanity here? Please?

[Tennessee Gal]

I saw the Obama photo a long time ago. I have no problem with it. Why would anyone? And why on earth is anyone here allowing whatever is posted on Drudge have any bearing whatsoever on this site?

Please people get a grip.

[chimpymustgo]

1. It's the Obama outrage du jour by the whiners. The bitch and moan about everything.

Unless you bow down, you are sacrilegious and evil.

[Tennessee Gal]

2. Come on. Let's not bash each other on this issue.

Let's not give Drudge that divisive power.

[EmilyAnne]

7. Thank you. I agree. Everyone needs to calm down. There is no proof that Hillary Clinton

did anything wrong. There is proof, however, that Matt Drudge would love nothing more than to foment the sort of outrage seen on this site. He wants a divided Dem party.

[Tennessee Gal]

11. Yes, Drudge would like nothing better.

[emilyg]

26. Yep.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

42. Kos comments, says Clinton not to blame, says Obama response was GREAT

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4757111&mesg_id=4763677

[cliffordu]

24. BINGO!!! N/T

[chimpymustgo]

16. Tennessee Gal, I applaud and appreciate your call to civility. I'm just outraged about the

crap being flung at Hillary - every day it's something - and the chorus of Obama supporters call for her head. This photo - which she didn't even have anything to do with, is just the latest. And what's WRONG with the photo???

I'm not even a Hillary supporter. But I do respect her, and hate the way she's being treated.

[Tennessee Gal]

22. Me too.

[Kajsa]

8. What a crock of crap!

n/t

[Kajsa]

3. I don't understand, either. Why the noise

about that photo?

:shrug:

[Faygo Kid]

4. What disingenuous, low balling crapola. Get a grip, indeed.

Here is the latest from the Washington Post. Note both the explanation of the harm (which you and your cohorts are already well aware of) and the failure to deny:

"The picture, taken of Obama while he was in Kenya in 2006 on a Senate trip to Africa, shows him in Somali garb, and Obama aides suggested the Clinton campaign circulated it to call attention to Obama's African ancestry and give credence to persistent and false allegations circulating online that he is a Muslim. Obama is a Christian who attends a United Church of Christ congregation in Chicago.

Clinton campaign officials did not deny sending Drudge the picture. Instead, in a statement, campaign manager Maggie Williams said "if Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely."
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/25/obama_slams_clinton_camp_over_1.html?hpid=topnews

This is what you are reduced to, and then you shrug your shoulders and say Obama supporters should "get a grip."

Well, get your own grip, because soon you're through.

[Tennessee Gal]

25. Oh, I am through?

So you don't want my vote?

[Faygo Kid]

41. I'm not running for anything. Make up your own mind in November.

Spare me the crap in the meantime, however. And if you want to make up your mind how to vote based on my response, thanks for giving me that power.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

5. Stop the FRIGGING DUPES - read why the "photo story" is being pushed

I stopped counting prior to 12:00 today. Here are at least 12 of the same threads, meant
to distract from Clinton's huge losing streak, campaign finances, and meltdowns.

Absolutely NO PROOF anyone from Clinton camp connected in anyway to 'the photo' Mon Feb-25-08 11:02 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758267&mesg_id=4758267

There's NO proof the Clinton campaign approved of the Drudge pic. So, he's a legitimate source now?? Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758517

*WHY* is it a "smear photo"? Mon Feb-25-08 11:30 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758733&mesg_id=4758733

To address the recent Drudge photo...Mon Feb-25-08 11:49 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4759060

Hillary doesn't mind pictures of her in traditional clothing being published. Why is Obama so upset? Mon Feb-25-08 11:26 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758646

RETHUGS sent the Photo! Mon Feb-25-08 11:57 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4759207&mesg_id=4759207

rebuttal

Politico: Obama slams smear photo Mon Feb-25-08 10:11 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4757652&mesg_id=4757652

The Clinton goes ON RECORD re: PHOTO SMEAR and DOES NOT DENY, just change subject Mon Feb-25-08 11:18 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4758523&mesg_id=4758523

in addition to being a low political move, distributing that photo would be an offense to muslims Mon Feb-25-08 11:37 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758867

Hillary's use of Islamophobia against Obama, will hurt our Democratic candidate for Congress Mon Feb-25-08 11:21 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758564

As long as Clinton supporters can blame Drudge the HRC camp will never be called on race baiting Mon Feb-25-08 10:10 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4757636&mesg_id=4757636

Why is there so much spectulation as to where the photo came from? Mon Feb-25-08 11:41 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4758939

[Tennessee Gal]

6. Well, please forgive me for trying to bring a little sanity here.

I stand corrected.

[yardwork]

32. You left out the thread comparing Hillary Clinton's campaign to lynchings.

[MethuenProgressive]

9. It was in the National Enquirer (3 million readers) weeks ago. Why blame Clinton??

[shrub chipper]

48. Actually, you're wrong

It was in the Examiner , NOT the Enquirer.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. Are you familiar with the "Obama is a muslim" e-mails?

[Tennessee Gal]

12. Yes. And every single time I get one, I send the facts back denying it.

I do not abide lies about any Democratic candidate.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. But why?

What's wrong with being a muslim?

:shrug:

[Tennessee Gal]

14. Nothing as far as I am concerned.

But I know that those who send the emails are fear mongers attempting to discredit Obama.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. Well there you go.

You just answered your own question.

:thumbsup:

[Tennessee Gal]

18. Which question was that?

I would think that people who post here are more politically educated than to allow anything posted on Drudge to disrupt our support for Democrats.

That was my point.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. "I have no problem with it. Why would anyone?"

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

39. Caring About Accuracy And Truth Is Completely Different Than Acting Outraged Or Offended.

Responding to the emails with truth is not even CLOSE to being comparable to the fanatical, irrational, and borderline insane reaction some have put forth to this today. Not even close. Nice try though! (well, really, it kinda wasn't)

[Tennessee Gal]

43. I use truth all the time.

Some people don't want the truth.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

44. Hear Hear To That.

:toast:

[jlake]

17. A chance to whine and call Hillary evil.... same old.

If they really think that that pic is so damaging, they still don't get what the GE will be like.

[robbedvoter]

19. Maybe this image will help:

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. Sanity and GD:P=oxymoron.

:evilgrin:

[Tennessee Gal]

23. You may be right.

[Tennessee Gal]

27. I am disgusted by what is going on here today.

I thought Democrats were better than this.

Whoever sent something to Drudge is attempting to divide us. I amazed that people cannot see it for what it is. It certainly is not beneficial to the Clinton campaign and they are smart enough to realize that. I believe the right wing is behind it.

[Midlodemocrat]

28. If you want sanity, head over to the Lounge.

It's the only safe forum these days.

:rofl:

[Maddy McCall]

29. SOOOO many times in the past, we've stood united against Drudge's lies.

Today, the people who want to believe Drudge is right will believe it. It fits their agenda to cast Hillary as Beelzebub's bride.

No sense in arguing with fools today. Let them throw their hissy fit, and they'll get over it and move on to the next "huge" anti-Clinton smear.

[Tennessee Gal]

30. Maddy, I know you are right about the agenda against Hillary.

I am just having a hard time understanding why anyone at DU would allow a post on Drudge to be a source for attacking any Democratic candidate.

I fight smears from the right wing against Obama, even though I did not vote for him in the primary.

I have spent years and years fighting the right wing smears against the Clintons on the net. I never thought I would have to fight FOR the Clintons here.

I am truly sad.

[Maddy McCall]

31. I have appreciated your posts here.

You are an objective, honest person, regardless of who you voted for in the primary.

Thank you for doing what is right. :hug:

[Tennessee Gal]

33. Thank you, Maddy.

:hug:

[enki23]

34. more disingenuous bullshit

that this photo *shouldn't* matter doesn't mean it *doesn't* matter. if it didn't matter, we wouldn't be talking about it.

[ClayZ]

K and R

[ClayZ]

35. K and R

[intaglio]

36. You want sanity?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8755903989181872962&q=they%27re+coming+to+take+me+away&total=796&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

37. His More Fanatic Supporters Became Totally Unhinged Today. Totally Unhinged.

I feel embarrassed for them. Seriously. It totally exposed their lack of objectivity, experience and mental maturity.

[endarkenment]

38. Locking - wrong forum.

[Tennessee Gal]

40. Nice try. You are not a moderator.

[endarkenment]

45. It was a joke.

Obviously I am not a moderator. The point is GDP is a looney bin.

[Tennessee Gal]

46. Not funny.

[endarkenment]

49. lol

[Gormy Cuss]

47. There are good reasons to discuss how the photo is problematic.

First and foremost, Drudge has a wide audience among the thought-free brains of some on the right.

There's also the issue of whether the Clinton campaign was involved in its placement on Drudge's radar, thus making it a dirty trick. That's worth discussing in the same way that last week's Clinton claim that the Obama campaign flyer deliberately used a retracted quote against Clinton. Dirty tricks do happen in politics and being aware of them will help those undecided form an opinion.