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Mon Feb-25-08 01:43 PM
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Let's put the shoe on the other foot. If Obama staffers were circulating the picture of HRC in a |
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Muslim headscarf in the context of an Obama staffer having been fired earlier in the campaign for sending an email saying HRC is a Muslim, would the HRC supporters here be crying foul or not?
Maybe someone has the picture I am talking about to illustrate.
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Mon Feb-25-08 01:47 PM
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1. Why would a campaign be pushing a photo of another candidate? |
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Putting someone's picture in the media brings attention to that candidate, positively or negatively. Clearly they don't want to give positive exposure to their rival so the obvious purpose here is to smear. There's no other reason to circulate this photo.
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:49 PM
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26. Exactly. Clinton campaign smearing. n/t |
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Mon Feb-25-08 01:47 PM
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2. Wouldn't be the same... because there are no "Hillary is a closet muslim" rumors circulating.... |
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An equivalent photo would be something like Hillary hanging out in a lesbian bar.
What makes this photo ONLY able to work is because of the "muslim" whispering campaign against Obama. That makes it "believable" for some people. A meme of "Hillary is a closet muslim" is not believable, and hence, easily disregarded.
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Mon Feb-25-08 01:54 PM
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It patently goes against the 'all dems are heathens' meme.
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Mon Feb-25-08 01:58 PM
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8. I understand what you're saying, but Barack is going to HAVE TO |
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find a way to put that rumor to death! I don't know who was/is circulating the Obama pic but if you think the Pubs won't do WORSE than that, you're living in a dream world! I don't know what to suggest to him to put an end to this stuff. Maybe more pics of him attending church services, or picks of his kids being baptized, or something like that from his past history that would show how he & his family worship all the time.
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:05 PM
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11. No, Obama can do little to combat that rumor. Only the MSM can combat it. |
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And they do have a responsibility to combat it, as the rumor is news and it has been reported on by the MSM so they should work to set the record straight. Actually I think the people who would believe the rumor are pretty much people who would never vote for Obama or any other Democrat anyway.
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:22 PM
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13. The MSM won't do that anymore than they put an end to the Swiftboat |
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stories! You know that! Barack is going to have to find a way! That's just not something the media does. They didn't do it for McCain either.
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:25 PM
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I think I used the lesbian analogy earlier, if a photo of her kissing gloria stenhem was circulated by the obama campaign after a couple of low level bullshit lesbian hit pieces on her the HRC camp would be crying sexism.
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Mon Feb-25-08 01:48 PM
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Mon Feb-25-08 01:54 PM
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5. "Wouldn't we be seeing this on the cover of every magazine if it were Obama?" |
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Mon Feb-25-08 01:57 PM
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7. You nailed it. This is indeed a better analogy. I stand improved. You should post this as an OP. |
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Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 01:59 PM by yellowcanine
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:36 PM
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23. You win the discussion. |
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Mon Feb-25-08 01:58 PM
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9. Let's say, for the sake of argument, they started circulating this one? |
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:01 PM
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10. Good one also but Continental really nailed it. |
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:24 PM
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16. Actually, that's one of the very few good pictures I've seen of her |
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recently.
Looking loose and relaxed, enjoying herself.
Not a recent picture, is it?
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:30 PM
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There's nothing wrong with being Wiccan, is there?
:P
I don't think it's recent, no.
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:21 PM
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12. They're Not - She Is.......nt |
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:24 PM
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15. I am still waiting for proof.... |
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:24 PM
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14. Hillary isn't black, wasn't raised overseas |
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wasn't accused of going to a Muslim madrassa. There is no comparison and anybody who is honest about it, knows it.
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:34 PM
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20. More on honesty. I would think Sen. Obama knew he would be fighting this battle when he decided |
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to run for president. Every presidential candidate has had to defend their past, regardless. Lies are told about everyone. I would think this is mild compared to what he would face from the right *if he is the nominee. If he's not prepared, he should be. I hope he is. I don't want another repuke in office.
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:41 PM
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25. Wow. Defending a liar. At least you admit it n/t |
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:34 PM
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19. The difference is Hillary is not paranoid and her supporters are used to rough and tumble politics. |
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For Obama to publish a similar photo of Hillary would not damage Hillary one whit, because Hillary is not afraid of the truth and does not try to hide the things she has done.
Apparently, Obama is not only ashamed of wearing the clothes, and of getting his photo taken in them, he is also furious that somone would show that photo to someone else.
Maybe if he had less to be ashamed of, he wouldn't be so overely sensitive?
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:35 PM
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22. Which is why she threw that huge shitfit about campaign mailers? |
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:34 PM
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21. Depends. Has Hillary been fighting off racist "Covert Muslim" smears all campaign? |
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Mon Feb-25-08 02:39 PM
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24. It just struck me this whole incident is a bit racist. |
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Because Obama is dark skinned and has had a connection to Islam, the photo is pushed out there to make people "afraid of the terrorist." If he was blond and blue eyed, this wouldn't fly. That's why a similar photo of Hillary would just be a nice travel photo.
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