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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:02 PM
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Furious Wolfson Calls Out the Media
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 06:10 PM by RamboLiberal
Obviously angry communications director on conference call with reporters says:

“I think it is true that every time the Obama campaign in this campaign has attacked Senator Clinton in the worst kind of personal ways, attacked her veracity, attacked her credibility, said that she would say or do anything to get elected, the press has largely applauded him.”

Says she focuses on contrasting the issues, while he goes after her personally “every day.”

http://thepage.time.com/

Audio: http://i.timeinc.net/TIME/2007/thepage/ClintonCall_Media_022508.mp3

On same page Duval Patrick had this to say:

Massachusetts governor again scoffs at Clinton’s speech-swiping accusation against Obama: “I guess if you have little else to say, then you turn the trivial into the meaningful.”

Says he favors the Illinois Senator because “we don’t want just a chief policy wonk” as President.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:03 PM
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1. Whoah, is he mixing Obama up with Hillary? nt
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Georgie_92 Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:05 PM
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12. That's what I was thinking.
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beezlebum Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:08 PM
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25. it's no accident either, imo
rovian tactic of accusing everyone else of exactly what they are doing/plan on doing.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:55 PM
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65. Yep, Wolfson is doing the job he was paid handsomely for .. attack dog.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:03 PM
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2. Wolfson has the credibility of an Ari Fleischer
and the integrity of a Scooter Libby.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:03 PM
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3. Shame on you Barack Obama, you naughty boy!
go to your room now!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:04 PM
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10. And take the
media with ya!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:04 PM
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4. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Fucking Whiney LIAR.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:04 PM
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5. Wolfson Is An Ass Hat nt
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:04 PM
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6. Did he provide examples?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:04 PM
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7. Keep it up, Wolfson.
Insult the media some more.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:04 PM
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8. How does he go after her personally every day???
I've heard his stump speech over and over again, and never does he attack her personally.
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:15 PM
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39. Yes he does
Calls her part of the "Status quo." Calls her "divisive." refers to her as "old politics" He lies about her health plan saying that she will "force people who CAN'T AFFORD insurance to buy it." Utter lies. Threatens riots at the convention if he doesn't get his way. ANd the suppine press just licks his rear every time he does it.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:12 PM
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70. thats an ugly personal attack to you? are you serious?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:04 PM
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9. In other words, her campaign DID give that photo to Drudge
A non-denial denial
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:06 PM
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15. Exactly, one of their staffers approached Drudge
and it is not the first time, and Obama was not the only victim.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:08 PM
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24. Good point - they're setting up their 'he did it, too' defense.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:12 PM
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35. Further down in OP link he denies it
Spokesman Howard Wolfson denies the campaign forwarded a photo of Obama in traditional African dress to the Drudge Report. On a media conference call, he challenges reporter question on the source of the photo.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:39 PM
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55. Not in the links you provided
All I read was the little text snippet about "OBAMA does it too!"

And All I head from Wolfson in the audio is "OBAMA does it too!"

I heard no denial that his campaign sent this pic to Drudge.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:05 PM
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11. I'm going to enjoy it immensely when the MSM goes after St. Obama.
We'll see some global warming here at DU.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:06 PM
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17. You are?
I assume you're for McCain, then?

Why are you here?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:17 PM
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42. You're for McCain every time you attack Hillary.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:20 PM
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45. So in other words, "I know you are, but what am I?"
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 06:22 PM by high density
BTW I don't waste a lot of time on here attacking Hillary. I do spend some time though wondering WTF she is thinking.

That still doesn't explain why you are "going to enjoy it" when the MSM "goes after" a fellow Democrat.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:34 PM
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50. I think I already mentioned that you all greet every MSM slur of
Hillary with such glee and repeat it as gospel. She's what you might call "a fellow Democrat."

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:43 PM
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58. You paint everybody with a wide brush
That's probably not wise.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:44 PM
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60. You speak with forked tongue, that's not wise either.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:08 PM
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23. You represent Hillary well.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:16 PM
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40. Obama followers in this thread represent Obama well, calling Wolfson
every name in the book, dismissing what he said. You learned your slimy tactics from your leader. He and you all are relentless because the media smooths over every one of his goofs and blames it on Hillary.

There will be a time soon when you're going to get it all back in your face. I will not defend him. I'm going to enjoy your meltdown.

Sorry, but it's true.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:27 PM
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46. Only I'm not an Obama supporter and I find the tactics of both camps to suck.
And you're in need of some major anger management classes. Wolfson deserves the names. Don't blame me, blame the campaign that hired their dumb asses.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:31 PM
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49. You sound like one. link
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:36 PM
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52. One can dislike both, no?
Are you that simpleminded?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:40 PM
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57. Just pointed out that you are part of the pile on in this thread. Could
you link me to one of your posts where you defended Hillary.

Thanks in advance.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:03 PM
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66. No search due to traffic, but here's more than one from the last 48 hours.
This thread was about McCain and Hillary using a coordinated attack; I didn't agree.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4730080&mesg_id=4733464

this thread points out how ugly the attacks on Hillary are.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4734659&mesg_id=4734890

My reasons for voting for Hillary Clinton

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4734529&mesg_id=4735835

Clinton supporters check-in thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4735670&mesg_id=4735897

Someone new called Hillary a bitch (shocking here I know). Here's my response.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4741016&mesg_id=4751037

Lirwins thread asking "If a candidate refuses to deny an outrageous claim, does that mean they are guilty of the claim?" in obvious reference to whether Hillary should deny the Obama photo thing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4763871&mesg_id=4764326

Does Obama Muslim "smear" open the door for Hillary / Huma lesbian "smear"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4764935&mesg_id=4765125

That's in just the last two days.

Now, how about returning the favor. Any posts where you defend Obama?

Thanks in advance.





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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:16 AM
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68. Read your posts.
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 03:20 AM by anamandujano
Okay you gave some half hearted support for Hillary. In this thread, you started off saying I represented her well. From your followups, it was obvious you were being sarcastic, which is fine. You were piling on with the rest, totally dismissing her spokesperson. It didn't matter to you that what he said was true. That is the behavior of an Obamabot. If the shoe fits, ya know?

I have zero links for you where I said anything nice about Obama. I do not like the guy at all. The first I heard of him was just after Kerry rolled over for Bush without a fight. He stood in the senate and said Bush won fair and square.

I think he has run the a very dirty campaign and has been supported by the MSM. I think he is an empty suit with a recycled campaign which is pure hokum.

Edit to add--my original post had to do with when the MSM gives Obama the Hillary treatment. I agree with Wolfson and you will soon see what he is talking about.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:04 PM
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69. Please
Edited on Tue Feb-26-08 03:27 PM by Forkboy
I've defended Hillary long before you were even here, and many of the rational Hillary supporters will attest to that. Unlike you I've defended all the candidates from garbage whether I like them or not.

No, Wolfson wasn't right, in my opinion. Your opinion isn't fact, it's your opinion, just like mine. My opinion from seeing Wolfson countless times is that he's an ass of the highest order.

That is the behavior of an Obamabot. If the shoe fits, ya know?

No, your behavior is that of both an Obamabot and a Hillbot, a simplistic black and white worldview like Bush, with us or against us, and anyone who pokes a whole in your bubble of illusion MUST therefore be the arch enemy.

If the shoe fits, ya know?

on and edit - Don't you thinks it's a bit hypocritical to ask someone to prove they've defended your choice when you admit you've never defended Obama. Fucking sad. :eyes:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #40
48. Why did Kerry fire Wolfson from his campaign?
Perhaps you should do some research on your subject before defending him.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:38 PM
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54. I'd more like to know why Kerry rolled over after he won the presidency and
why Obama rose on the floor of the senate to say that Bush won fair and square.

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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:09 PM
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27. Why didn't Wolfson provide examples?
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #27
43. He may have assumed you were following the news of the day.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. What's the smear there? Calling them out on the photo?
Is he saying that's a smear? What else is there - he says Obama's been doing it everyday.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:35 PM
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51. At last we agree. Obama HAS been doing it everyday.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:36 PM
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53. Wolfson says he has been - if so, there must be piles of examples for him to reference.
Instead he just made an unsupported, broad assertion.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #53
59. Supported by the few actions Obama takes, crying racism at every turn,
twisting Hillary's words, mischaracterizing her positions.

You're been reading here regularly. Stop playing dumb. I can't say it doesn't suit you, but I'm not going to waste my time playing along.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:05 PM
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13. What an asshole
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 06:05 PM by high density
I hope she's trounced on March 4th so this shit comes to an end soon. We expect it from McCain but this crash and burn shit from Clinton is really something else.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:06 PM
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14. I hope
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 06:06 PM by Patsy Stone
there was some foot-stomping and fist-shaking as an accompaniment.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:06 PM
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16. Because she HAS shown that she'd do anything to get elected...
like breaking her pledge about the MI and FL delegates after she said she'd abide by the rules the DNC laid out.

She can't contradt the issues when she changes her positions frequently, and panders to whatever group she's speaking in front of.

She's been a horrible candidate that has run a terrible campaign.
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:06 PM
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18. Good job!
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:06 PM
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19. Wrong.
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 06:07 PM by Cant trust em
Hasn't Hillary Clinton implied directly that Obama is naive and unqualified in every speech she has made? Don't those count as "the worst kind of personal ways"?

Why doesn't he try addressing the issue that we're talking about today?
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:07 PM
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20. Go Fuck yourself, Howard Wolfson.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:07 PM
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21. I've never heard of anyone named "Furious Wolfson." Who is he or she?
Redstone
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:08 PM
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26. Sounds Like A Race Horse
~
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:14 PM
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38. Someone else said a band name. It would be perfect for either.
Redstone
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:11 PM
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33. That
is the name of my new band.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:13 PM
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37. And a great name for a band, it is. MUCH better than the name of one of my bands, before we
sobered up and changed it. It was, I kid you not, "The Bucksnort Ginslingers."

(Bucksnort is a town in Tennessee, and Gin Sling is the name of a cocktail.)

Redstone
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:28 PM
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47. Wow
That would take up waaay too much room on a CD cover. And I first read it as "The Bucksnort Gunslingers", which only made it marginally better, comprehension-wise.

:)

We used to have an ever-growing list of band names at work. The only one that still sticks in my mind, but I don't know why, is Rob's Mom's Cookies.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:07 PM
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22. Wolfson must have just recieved the bad news from their internal polls
:)
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:09 PM
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28. did he deny the photo yet? Obama has come after Hillary on issues. There is a difference
and he has done it in a professional adult manner befitting a presidential candidate. Hillary comes across as an overly emotional woman. I am a woman and I am disgusted that our first viable female candidate has resorted to methods that will paint any future candidates in a demeaning and sexist light. She has done that, all by herself. As a woman who has struggled to get where she is, I am very offended by the way Hillary has been behaving over the last few days. You can blame her campaign staff certainly, but Hillary is capable of making her own decisions, or at least one can hope that she is, and she has chosen very poorly of late. It reflects very very badly on our gender as she will unfairly cause all women who seek higher office to be painting with the "overly emotional" brush.


I am so disappointed.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:13 PM
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36. He denied the photo - further down in OP link
Spokesman Howard Wolfson denies the campaign forwarded a photo of Obama in traditional African dress to the Drudge Report. On a media conference call, he challenges reporter question on the source of the photo.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:09 PM
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29. Listening to him is about as interesting as reading an in flight magazine on Air Belgium.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:09 PM
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30. wolfson is a whining little bitch.
pathetic.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:10 PM
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31. It's hell being the most desperate for power victim in the entire world.
This has got to really be driving her campaign staff to the frazzle.

Maybe they need a month off with last month's pay.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:11 PM
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34. I found it curious that the NY Times reported members of her
staff are taking time off even though it's crunch time!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:17 PM
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41. That may not mean much.
A lot of them are working without pay. Technically they may already be taking time off the payroll already.

The problem is the people who ARE getting paid. The major advisors seem to NEED a day off and won't take one.

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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:10 PM
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32. Wolfson must come from Bizarro World
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:40 PM
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56. Another Opposite Day for Hillaryworld !
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CitizenRob Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:45 PM
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61. Because Obama calling into question her credibility is not personal, it's accurate.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:47 PM
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62. "...turn the trivial into the meaningful.” A Clinton staple since the '90s.
V-Chips, school uniforms, etc. :eyes:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:50 PM
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63. In Case You Missed It: “Obama once visited '60s ‘terrorists’.” Read more.

That's from Wolfson's blog. But her campaign is focused on the issues, eh?


http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/02/22/143137
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:55 PM
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64. There you go. n/t
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:33 PM
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67. It's just not fair


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