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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:28 AM Original message |
Hillary's last minute desperation -- versus Al Gore's and John Kerry's |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree... |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. I'm not sure she's been inauthentic the last few days. I'm afraid that's the authentic, unvarnished |
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MBS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. I share your memories of both Gore and Kerry in the home stretch |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. "we have also seen the real Hillary this week" -- I wonder? |
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Skoods (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. Yeah.. |
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Independent-Voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
3. What makes you think this isn't how HRC really is? She certainly comes off as a shrill person. |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
4. He's got her on the defensive... |
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femmedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. K & R. nt |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
7. Well-written and compelling |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. Spot on. |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
9. Its a republican style that would do better in the GE |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
10. Divisive and polarizing--the two words I always use to explain why I'm not supporting her candidacy. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Hillary has a world view that it's all about her, and everyone else is wrong. |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
11. Tonight's debate will spell the end of her. n/t |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I agree. Tonight is it for her, and she won't come out of it looking good. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah, I agree, it was sad to see it come down to that level. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
13. HamdenRice I think she over reacted about the fliers |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. You know--there are always two ways to react to things if you feel wronged: |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
14. Politics is theater. Success depends on a moving Narrative, a solid Persona & a convincing Actor. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. " "Inevitable/Experienced" as a Narrative, Hillary was mortally wounded " |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. And "Change" is a brilliant Narrative. It holds it's own capacity for being altered, if necessary |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. You nailed it |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. You nailed it |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Good analysis. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
18. Methinks Mark Penn... |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
21. She might have won the nomination if she kept to the "softer" Hillary that won NH. Why the |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I like to think that's the real Hillary |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
27. Note also that you're comparing Gore and Kerry's GE campaigns ... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Agreed, but |
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