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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:52 PM Original message |
Obama HAS to pick a military, foreign policy guy as VP |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Democrats have a lot of generals too. |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. and therefore |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. Those three would all work for me, but especially Biden... |
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MidwestTransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. I like Biden and Webb the best. Biden is great. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Bob Graham. He's the perfect choice. |
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madaboutharry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. I really like Webb |
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Liberal Veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm an Obama supporter, but he should focus on winning the nomination first and foremost. |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. but this issue could surface in the primary too |
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existentialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. Of the three |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. AGREED. McCain's trump card is his national security experience (so people believe). Take it from hi |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yup. |
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Obamaniac (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Not Clark, he's too hated by the military. Besides he's a Clinton guy. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
42. Clark is hated by the military? |
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Obamaniac (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. He's hated passionately by the military brass. Even those on our side. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
74. "The Army" doesn't give out stars. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
11. I like Clark. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
12. Richardson |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. I've heard Zinni's name tossed around by talking heads too. eom |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
67. Zinni would be an excellent choice. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. Here's an article posted today on just this topic if anyone is interested: |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
50. Excellent article! I recommend anyone reading this thread to check it out. Thanks! nt |
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ristruck (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
15. Good Point |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. He will--I don't see him going with a Governor this time around (and no, not Richardson either)-- |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Didn't even think about Hagel - I think that's a great suggestion!! nt |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. A lot of people here would be pissed at the mere suggestion (although Kerry/McCain almost |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. Yeah, probably not a popular choice. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
71. Obama-Hagel could swing Kansas and Nebraska if the Blue tide is big enough. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
63. Isn't Hagel the one who won the election by vote fraud with Dibold |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. LOL! Let's harness that power for OUR side, for once! |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
18. Maybe, or he could pick a someone from the Foreign Relations committee or.. |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. Graham or Hart |
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Suzie57 (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
20. Richardson |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
21. I'm thinking of maybe General McPeak |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
23. No he doesn't. That's why you have a Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State for. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. It's not so much for policy--it's to fill a gap in Obama's resume, or to |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. I find a lot of fault in this logic, but if you were to pick a Democratic Foreign Policy wonk.... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Well, Bill Richardson is a solid bureaucrat, but was a little gaffe-prone |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. that's why its a good combo: Obama has the charisma, and Richardson the diplomatic cachet |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. I didn't see the diplomatic cachet--he made a lot of campaign goofs |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #34 |
79. I do not agree |
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k8conant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. Only if McCain picks a human n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
25. Good point about going up against McCain. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. Petraeus, if only because I'd like to watch the internet explode. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. The "ass-kissing little chickenshit", according to Admiral Mullen-- |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
29. I disagree. Bob Dole wasn't defeated with a ticket... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. Those were different times, though - it's a whole new ball game now. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
31. I disagree: the best person would be Richardson, with DIPLOMATIC experience |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Largely agreed. We need experience avoiding unnecessary wars, not fighting them. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. exactly. IF you make diplomacy the first and most important choice on the table |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
70. I agree - BUT - I think a strong milatary/diplomat would be good |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
32. Yes, especially since he lacks those skills. |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. and Clinton has skills running a war, I guess. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. And your guy voted to pay for it. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. So does everyone who doesn't want to see Chimpy snatch canteens and |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Yes, the funding bill was all about canteens, wasn't it? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. You really don't understand how defunding would be portrayed, do you? |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. I do. And this country sorely needed a Senator to passionately denounce it on the Senate floor. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Part of it was getting the MRAP vehicles to the troops. Bush would have |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Sure he would. Just give him what he wants. Doesn't matter one bit. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. We're not going to agree on this. I DO understand your feelings, though. I've |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
40. I've heard Zinni a few times |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Is he pro-choice? Does he know anything about anything other than the military? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
45. What an original canard. |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
49. Obama people. Don't count your chickens! Keep working having said that. Not webb |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. General Anthony Zinni |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
52. He doesn't have to pick military. Feingold's strong on foreign policy. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. But, Russ is needed in the Senate. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #56 |
72. Not really. A Dem would replace him and we have many great progressives there. |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
53. Biden has knowledge but not the Military creds. No service. Obama needs that. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
54. Why not a woman? |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Is there a politician female w/ military experience? |
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From The Left (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
59. Gen. Anthony Zinni |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
61. True. But watch the party folks pressure him to choose a "fave" pol who they "know" |
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LucyParsons (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-26-08 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
69. WEBB! WEBB! WEBB! |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. I agree with Webb on many issues but he voted with Mikulski on the FISA bill |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
73. Yeah, he does. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Biden didn't endorse Obama. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Whoops... |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:49 PM Original message |
he hasn't endorsed Clinton, has he? Maybe with Dodd moving to O, Joe will too? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
81. No, not to my knowledge. I don't think Biden particularly cares for either |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. he hasn't endorsed Clinton, has he? Maybe with Dodd moving to O, Joe will too? |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
78. It won't be Clark... |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
82. Nah, a woman then we don't lose the HRC voters. Like this one... |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-27-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. My prediction in 04 was Obama 08. I now say Obama/rice 08. Susan Rice that is. |
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