How is it that Team Hillary doesn't understand the racial implications of the African garb photo?

[BuyingThyme]

ON EDIT:

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If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7336622

[Cronus Protagonist]

1. Other, they never sent it

And since it was published in a newspaper a while back, this dead horse isn't going to give Obama a ride home any more.

[End Of The Road]

3. I'll ditto that. eom

[BuyingThyme]

8. I've never said they sent it, nor cared because I saw their response.

Instead of renouncing or rejecting racism and related bigotries, they pretended be be unaware of any such implications.

[Cronus Protagonist]

23. Is the photo racist?

I don't think so. Is the photo "related" to bigotry? No, not at all. It's a photo of Obama doing something presidents have done for decades. The "racism" is in your own mind. I bet you think me using Barack Hussein Obama's full name here is also racist, right? It's not. It's his name. Period. The photo is not a photoshop job, nor does it have anything to do with the Hillary campaign, nor is it racist or about racism. Period.

[BuyingThyme]

26. You, like Hillary are pretending not to understand the issue.

You both know that the photo has a racial implications that have, historically, and otherwise, been eaten up by racists.

But because you and Hillary have both decided that racism might serve your objectives, you pretend not to know anything about that racism.

Right?

[CitizenRob]

50. THANK YOU. Seriously stop pretending to not understand the issue. You're talking to equals!

This is more irritating than when my own mother pretends she doesn't get a joke because it's not politically correct. If the joke is offensive to her, fine, don't laugh... but don't fucking pretend you don't get it!

[JVS]

2. By team hillary do you mean her actual campaign or some of her supporters here who post the photos?

[BuyingThyme]

5. Her campaign for sure, plus the people who don't want the truth to be posted.

[Yael]

4. Just like Tubbs-Jones didn't know?

About the Somalian refugee "issue" in Cincinnati?

Yeah right.

[BuyingThyme]

6. I don't know much about that.

Remind me.

[HeraldSquare212]

10. There are threads on it - a large Somali population in Columbus,

not well assimilated, reviled by many, including some who fear many of them have AIDS. It's a good sized population - 30,000 - 40,000.

The Congresswoman must know of the issue, and by calling Obama a Somali on national TV, I'm guessing she was trying to exploit it. A few from Columbus have posted on it here, and at Ambinder's site he featured a reader's comment on the issue.

[BuyingThyme]

11. Oh, yeah, she said he's a native Somali. Now I remember.

Very nice.

[Yael]

16. "exploit" -- thats it right there.

[BuyingThyme]

27. As in use in an unethical (or less than ethical) manner?

[FlyingSquirrel]

7. How much more Thyme can you buy?

Don't answer that... this plus your last post tells me enough to add to my growing list.

[BuyingThyme]

What about this poll makes you want me to go away?

[BuyingThyme]

9. dupe

[rodeodance]

12. BO got duped--he belived a RW (drudge) website. shameful on him

[BuyingThyme]

14. Actually, he took Hillary's word for it.

To bad Hillary couldn't do the same thing with that Farrakhan thing, eh?

Both on national television, too.

Two more points for Barack.

[rodeodance]

17. drudge published, BO believed, BO dissed Hill, Hill defended herself. simple as that.

[BuyingThyme]

25. When did this dissing occur?

Do you have a link?

[rodeodance]

13. This issue died when Team Obama realized how foolish it was to believe DRUDGE

[BuyingThyme]

15. Only if you don't have a problem with Hillary's decision to

ignore the racial and racist implications.

But if that's your kind of candidate...

[rodeodance]

18. silly--drudge started this and BO got duped.

[BuyingThyme]

24. Duped? How so.?

[Doctor_J]

19. It was the Republikkkons who publicized this, not Clinton

Jeez, you're dumb

[BuyingThyme]

28. Umm... Wasn't Hillary the one who issued the statement

in which she said she didn't even understand what it was all about?

And isn't that EXACTLY what you've done here?

You guys are simply not very good pretenders, you know.

[Barack_America]

20. Willful ignorance.

We all know that what something is and how something is perceived don't always match-up.

[AtomicKitten]

21. It's passive-aggressive fear-mongering, plain and simple.

[BuyingThyme]

29. Otherwise known as RACISM.

(Among other evil, dirty things.)

[dansolo]

22. It reminded me of Britney Spears acting puzzled about her jailbait image.

Britney Spears became successful by portraying a highly sexualized image of herself, and then had the gall to express confusion as to why she was getting propositioned by older men. She was well away of the image she was selling. It is the same type of fake naivete shown here.

[BuyingThyme]

30. I don't know if I would have used that example, but

I think the BAIT part is spot on.

[MethuenProgressive]

31. It was in a national newspaper weeks ago. Where was the "outrage" then?

Obama probably sent the pic to Drudge. It's his style.

[BuyingThyme]

32. And he knew Hillary would lie about it in hopes of appealing to racist

pieces of shit?

If that's the case, do you approve or disapprove? Do you think it's a good thing Barack has exposed Hillary as a racist in your eyes?

[MethuenProgressive]

33. Only an idiot would think Hillary Clinton is a racist.

Idiots and victims of Obama's hateful Swiftboating of the Clintons on race.
Are you a victim, Thyme?

[BuyingThyme]

34. Well let's just go to the issue: Why do you think Hillary pretended

not to know the implications of the African garb photo?

STOP. I know this is where you go back to your nonsense, but please, please, please don't.

Just try, for once, to answer a simple question about Hillary Clinton.

[MethuenProgressive]

35. What you claim happened never happened outside of your imagination.

The simple answer to your simple quetion is: You should ask a friend to come over and sit with you a while.

[BuyingThyme]

36. I'll try again. Please, please, please, explain this official Hillary statement:

...

If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely.

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7336622

AGAIN, STOP.

Please resist the nonsense which you have been taught to spew. Try--please try--to explain the statement.

[MethuenProgressive]

37. You've been caught with your own words, again:

You asked:

"Why do you think Hillary pretended not to know the implications of the African garb photo?"

and then posted:

"If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely."

Which is a quote from Maggie Williams, who is not Hillary Clinton, for your information.
You have quite the confused imagination. But then, to be an Obama supporter, I suppose that's a requirement.

[BuyingThyme]

38. So your argument is that official statements from the Hillary campaign

are not the words of Hillary Clinton.

Is that right?

Again, please try your darnedest to answer the question. It's pretty much a YES or NO.

[MethuenProgressive]

39. HRC writes every word said by every employee in every statement, email, and chat they have?

Wow. She is amazing in your imagination.
Almost as God-like as Obama, who writes and controls every thought thunk by every Obamanaught everywhere...

[BuyingThyme]

40. Well now we know why you won't denounce or reject Hillary's racism.

You don't hold her responsible for it.

See how easy it is if you just deal with the facts?

[MethuenProgressive]

42. Only an idiot would think Hillary is a racist.

Only an idiot or a victim of Obama's Swiftboating Clinton on Race.
Are you a victim, Thyme?

[BuyingThyme]

43. Well, to you, using racism to appeal to racists is not racist.

So I guess it's a matter of semantics or something.

So, would you like to now discuss your use to the term Swiftboating?

[MethuenProgressive]

44. You see racism where there is no racism, and cry wolf where there is no wolf.

Keep falsely crying wolf, and the time will come when a real wolf will threaten you.
And when no one comes to your aid to becuase of your history of falsely crying wolf,
that wolf will eat you.

Go ahead. Accuse me of wolfism.

[BuyingThyme]

45. Oh, you don't understand the CRY WOLF analogy.

For you see, I showed you the wolf. Then you said that the wolf is not there. But everybody here knows that whether the wolf is named Hillary or Maggie, it's the same exact wolf, and it's right there for everybody to see.

[MethuenProgressive]

46. You cry wolf where there is no wolf, and someday a real wolf will eat you.

The wolf is in your head.

[11 Bravo]

53. Dude, you are trying to have a rational conversation on an adult level ...

with SpongeBob Squarepants. Sic the Telletubbies on this clown, and move on.

[cottonseed]

41. They don't "understand" a lot of things.

They act first. Poll. Then spin afterwards.

[SeaLyons]

47. Photo was used

as a race card. The Clinton camp would have absolutely nothing to gain, and the photo is nothing. It's all hype by the media and the Obama camp. There is nothing wrong with the photo.

[BuyingThyme]

48. I think they're trying to "gain" votes from racists.

[Iggo]

49. Explain again what the racial implications are.

Please?

[BuyingThyme]

51. Hillary has decided to pretend that she doesn't know the difference

between herself wearing the traditional African garb and Barack wearing the traditional African garb.

Of course, she actually knows that racists are using the photo to infer that a brown man who sports traditional African garb is obviously a Muslin and thus probably a terrorist.

Of course, she is doing nothing less than denying the long, ugly history of racists and racism in this country.

Of course, she could have told the truth--she could have denounced or rejected the circulation of the photo for these purposes--but Hillary decided instead that it would be to her advantage to pander to the racists in order to garner support from the racist community.

Of course, her less-than-honest-with-a-touch-of-racist wing of support is similarly pretending not to understand the difference between Hillary wearing the garb and Barack wearing the garb.

And, of course, that wing of support is similarly denying the history of racism.

They post as much right here in this forum.

Too bad, eh?

[Iggo]

52. So then...

...it's racist because someone wants me to believe that he's Muslim?

Was it then racist when the pukes went after Mittens for being a Mormon?

See what I'm getting at?

[BuyingThyme]

54. Yes, you're pretending that the fact that Barack is black

does not play a role in the way people view him in African garb.

[Iggo]

55. So it's the African garb and not the Muslim thing.

Thanks for clearing that up. And I'm not pretending anything. I'm not a racist, so I didn't see any racism. You saw what you saw. I didn't see it that way. I was trying to get you to explain how being Muslim-phobic and terrorist-phobic was being racist. That's all. Call me a liar again, if it makes you feel better, but that's the truth.

(Yeah, I know. I made up a couple of words there. But I'm typing this on the fly, and I couldn't think of a couple of slicker terms than "Muslim-phobic" and "terrorist-phobic."...lol.)

[Raffi Ella]

56. oh,I do understand it.

And I also understand why it would be beneficial to ObamaCo. to put it out there and blame Hillary for it which is what I believe happened.


This is a particularly nasty ploy from ObamaCo.Not much Hillary can do about it unless she wants to accuse him of playing the race card...the answer given by her Campaign is one of the few they could give without doing just that.