Obama Encourages Parents to Love their Children - Tweety Calls Him a Conservative

[K Gardner]

Okay.. I'm watching the 7 pm rerun, begrudgingly. I caught the end of the 5 pm broadcast and there was a snippet of Obama speaking off the cuff, telling parents to turn off the video games, feed their children (lol) and help them with their homework (paraphrased). Well, Tweety gets his face all scrunched up and has this furrowed brow, concerned look.. and tells Katrina V. that he sounds like he's pushing conservative themes. Katrina seems shocked. I was too ! Since when is encouraging parents to be responsible something the government is supposed to do? He ended the segment obviously quite concerned that Obama is, indeed, a conservative.

I may have missed something, but this is just odd, so I'm going to try to catch it again. Did anyone see this and find it odd?

I am of the opinion that the influx of savvy, young, new voters may be turning Tweety into the Fossil we know he has always been. He can't stay caught up. He is behind from every angle. Obama responds to an attack before Tweety has a chance to weigh in.. he is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Many of the frothing punditry are becoming irrelevant. By the time we have fully discussed, dissected and disarmed topics here on DU and in the blogosphere, the MSM is just catching up.

We may do more this time than change America. Stay tuned.. :-) :hi:

[VenusRising]

1. Wait....

I thought he was a liberal.

I'm so confused. :crazy:

[progdog]

2. He's confused

He also called it Bourgeois.

[K Gardner]

3. Oh lord.. didn't hear that. I have to record this. Its gonna be a KEEPER !

[maseman]

7. I'm a liberal and don't really care for my children

They cry, whine, take up space, you have to feed them, take them to school and cost a fortune. Should have stuck with the cat.

[babylonsister]

12. LOL!

Cats make me itch.

[Binka]

27. Take My Daughter For Instance

IMG]
No, really, I mean take her, who in their right mind could LOVE that?

[K Gardner]

31. How absolutely gorgeous !! You lucky parental unit, you !

[Binka]

34. Remind Me Of That When She Hits Puberty!

I'm gettin me a GUN. A REAL BIG GUN!

[1awake]

39. oh my..

I have that same throw rug! yea.. little things excite me.

[JerseygirlCT]

37. That's right. That's why all we liberals want the government to

raise our kids and tell us what to do, right?

Oy. <--- (Aimed at him, not you).

[HCE SuiGeneris]

38. LOL. I'm sending this to my ex.

[VenusRising]

8. I think the malaria ate his brain away.

[K Gardner]

9. Is that why he drools, I wonder?

[VenusRising]

14. I think he's always done that.

:rofl:

[JerseygirlCT]

36. He's not a liberal. He's just not very bright. nt

[VenusRising]

48. Which "he" are you referring to?

Now I really am confused.

[JerseygirlCT]

50. Tweety. (Sorry). nt

[VenusRising]

52. No worries.

I just wanted to be clear. :hi:

[BeatleBoot]

4. Obama was TRIANGULATING - the SAME thing Bill Clinton gets dissed for

But it's okay if you're Obama.

You get the "Magic Double Standard Pass"

[K Gardner]

5. Go piss on another thread. You have 4 more days. Enjoy it elsewhere.

[BeatleBoot]

16. Awwww......Come on.......

No one likes a

[geek tragedy]

11. He encourages good parenting--that makes him bad

in your eyes.

Wow, hatred makes folks like you just plain stupid.

[Forkboy]

15. So is triangulation good or bad?

If it's good then why the hostility. If it'd bad then whine to Hillary.

[BeatleBoot]

17. For Obama Supporters it's bad when Bill Does it.

And for Obama Supporters you can't recognize it when your own candidate does it.

[Forkboy]

20. Doesn't answer my question.

Is it good or bad...full stop? Regardless of who does it?

And I don't support Obama, so drop the black and white thought processes and use that noggin' for once. I know you can do it.

[BeatleBoot]

24. That's up to Obama supporters to decide

They criticized it first, then they praised it when their candidate did it.

I never crticized it, therefore I am not inconsistent in my thinking.

Obama supporters want it both ways - scream "TRIANGULATION BILL" - then do that very same thing.


It is. To Laugh.

[Forkboy]

33. Yeah, but I'm asking YOU.

Is it good or bad TO YOU. Simple enough question, man. :shrug:

[Forkboy]

67. Kick for Beatle.

You can answer, I won't bite.

[nsd]

18. This wasn't triangulating.

Triangulating is trying to play left against right, liberals against conservatives. That's not what Obama was doing.

What he said -- that parents have to act to fight childhood obesity and reduce the influence of video games -- is neither liberal nor conservative. It certainly doesn't pit one group against the other. His words are just plain old common sense.

[K Gardner]

21. Ah, that puts it in context. Thanks ! I guess Tweety thinks a real liberal would've

developed a govt. program to establish parental responsibility.

[Recursion]

40. Err... do you have any idea how long he's pushed for good parenting

It's been a central part of his community organizing for about 2 decades now.

[anonymous171]

6. Everyone knows liberals don't love their children!

:sarcasm:

[Nitrogenica]

10. Boy stereotyping Liberals has brainwashed his pathetic ass.

What a moron.

[Freida5]

13. Sounds like the "we all have to sacrifice" pitch that lost the election for carter

[K Gardner]

19. Four more days.

[TwilightGardener]

22. Katrine Van Denheuvel was right--why IS it conservative to support

your kids shutting off video games and making them eat breakfast and do their homework? Since when are those strictly conservative values? That's baffling to me.

[TwilightGardener]

23. Also, Tweety insisted that Dems are encroaching on "Rudy" and GOP territory

by fighting on national security, because "they're not as good in that area"--WTF??

[K Gardner]

25. I think he's losing it. I suspect a new generation of enlightened voters might be

scaring him.. the new kids on the block won't even remember or care who Tip was, and that's Tweety's claim to fame.

[JimGinPA]

26. Can't Let Reality Get In The Way Of Conservative Talking Points

:eyes:

[TheDonkey]

44. It is common and practical sense that many people unfortunately do not follow

I know, I've tried eating bad food early in the morning but good health care STARTS at home. Obama was right on. It isn't one way or the other. Get healthy yourself and STFU or the government will rescue you. It is a combination of the two.

[fight4my3sons]

55. I thought the same thing. n/t

[woolldog]

28. I saw that.

It was a ridiculous discussion, as if conservative own the personal responsibility, good parenting theme.

[Arkansas Granny]

29. Oh no! All those years I monitored my kids tv watching, cooked

their meals, helped with homework and tucked them in bed at night made me a conservative? Or was it the PTA meetings, teachers conferences and those damned fundraisers? How will I break the news to the kids? I may never be able to hold my head up again.

:wow:

[K Gardner]

30. LOL... break it to them gently, Arkansas Granny !! It'll be traumatizing !

[K Gardner]

32. No he did NOT ! He wants Ed Rendell as VP on the ticket with Obama?? Is he

SERIOUS??

[JerseygirlCT]

35. I didn't find it odd, I found it

infuriating. How dare he? I mean, really? Isn't it time, haven't the Bush boys proven beyond any sort of doubt, that conservatism as practiced in the US has absolutely nothing to do with personal responsibility?

Tweety isn't capable of nuanced thought. He wants everything is easy to digest soundbites, regardless of whether they make any real sense or not. Everything must be distilled to some very simplistic notion. Which he then spends the entire show flogging his guests with, interrupting them to sell his latest "brilliant" thought.

Ugh.

[madmom]

45. You hit upon something there..."he wants everything in easy to digest sound bites".. most

voters don't read or do research they "learn" from these easy to digest 30 second sound bites that's why the repugs use them and perfected them. People are just to busy these days for anything more.

[JerseygirlCT]

49. Yup. And we'd better get good at that game, b/c it isn't changing

any time soon. Unfortunately.

[Mz Pip]

41. We all know

that liberals starve their kids and make them watch reruns of "Debbie Does Dallas", don't let them play dodgeball, don't let them keep score and make pot brownies for their kids birthday parties.

Until Obama advocates pot brownies for kiddie parties we know he must be a conservative. :party:


Mz Pip
:dem:

[Cha]

42. That's why mommy's a democrat and

daddy, too.

"Last November, I published a children's book called Why Mommy is a Democrat. As described on my website, the book "brings to life the core values of the Democratic party in ways that young children will easily understand," such as the Democratic principles of fairness, tolerance, peace, and concern for the well-being of others. It also contains a few satirical jabs at the Republican party and the Bush Administration, which are intended to be too subtle for young children to notice or understand.

This is a genuine grassroots effort. Why Mommy is a Democrat is self-published and 100% self-funded, and no political organization played any role in its creation. Its primary goal is to encourage Democratic parents to discuss their political beliefs with their children in an open, honest, and positive way. It also serves to remind adult Democrats what it means to be a Democrat, i.e., what our party truly stands for. Finally, the book is a fundraising tool, with at least 5% of the profits going to Democratic candidates and party organizations."

more..
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/2/24/115129/798

[K Gardner]

51. Thank you for this link !

[pdxmom]

43. The commentators don't get it. None of them. Obama has always said,

"Yes, we can." It's all a part of that. People can take things on themselves and by doing those things, they can help improve their own lives and the lives of others. Tweety and the commentators just don't get that it's still all a part of the same message he's been giving from the beginning.

[skipos]

46. Yeah, I didn't get wtf Matthews was talking about

What the hell does being a disciplinarian have to do with conservative/progressive?

[K Gardner]

47. Here's what I got on Re-Run, badly and sparsely transcribed:

It was truly disgusting and insulting to me as a parent and grandparent.

Obama in video clip: "Turn off the tv, put the video game away, watch them do their homework, help them, call their teacher if you don't know how to do it, make them go to bed at a reasonable time, keep them off the streets, give em some breakfast.. C'mon ! Can I get an Amen here?" Crowd goes wild.

Tweety: "Why that message of self reliance?"

Some other guy: "This is from the church of Obama. He was speaking to voters in suburbia."

Tweety: "Was he talking to whites or blacks ? Why would this tough love message sell between now and Tuesday?"

(rather disgusting discussion about whether low class whites or blacks would respond to this message)

Tweety: "This is an unusual message to unveil right before a primary. Not about a government program, but about self-help."

Katrina: "He speaks to the unfinished business of this country."

Tweety: "He's not saying the govt is on the way with help. He's telling the people to get their act together. Its what YOU GOTTA DO!

(Comparison to Bill Cosby. What is the public policy implication??)

Tweety: "I think he is saying to voters, more conservative dems, I share your bourgeois values. He's not pushing more government. I'm just asking about that part. I'm asking you to respond to that part.. its SELF HELP. (berating and interrupting katrina here) He's talking about what the people have to do for themselves, not what the government can do for them."

[Cha]

53. Fuck tweety and his drivel corp.

They get paid to throw shit on America.

[bigbrother05]

54. Tweety can't keep up

maybe we can change a lot more

[medicswife]

56. I saw this stump speech

watched the stream from TX on CNN, and loved EVERY minute of it!!!! It's about time that someone told parents what they need to hear. I was curious after that if he was going to bring nutrition into the mix when the next question had to do with diabetes. He did. I thought it was great!

It's logical, true and refreshing. Not conservative. Keeping your kids off of the street, not blaming the teacher if they misbehave and having responsibility for them and their behavior is paramount. This was to me, the moment that I really, really got on the Obama train. Considering I got out my Master-card at this point, I'd say he scored big with this Mama of 4.

[K Gardner]

57. Medicswife !! Thanks for this Ground Report and your update ! I'm getting out my Debit

card in the morning for the first of my Ides of March donations !!

Welcome Aboard and thank you again ! Love those kiddies !

[medicswife]

59. As long as he includes

Biden in his cabinet, or at least offers, I will feel very, very vindicated.

:)

Loved me some Biden, Obama has been growing on me, and now I'm on the train.

[K Gardner]

62. I was a Bidenite too and hope like hell to see him HIGH up in an Obama cabinet. He's

said unequivocably that he didn't want VP, but I also saw a quote from last week where he seemed to be wavering on that. Those two would make a wonderful team !

I'm surprised how much Obama has "grown on me", considering he was like my LAST candidate to land on. But boy howdy, he has :-)

:hi:

[Catshrink]

61. I'm a teacher and I loved every word of it.

It would be so great if kids came to school alert and fed and had their work done. What's with kids staying up until midnight texting their friends?

[jenmito]

58. It WAS very strange. Katrina Vanden Heuvel kept TRYING to explain to him how that was

only PART of what he said, and it was NOT a conservative message, he just kept disagreeing with her. He gave Obama NO credit for ANYTHING-not even Obama's response to Hillary's scary ad, saying he doesn't understand why BOTH of them are using fear tactics. As if he didn't GET that Obama was RESPONDING to HER fear-card ad. Very strange comments by Matthews tonight! Not even ONE comment on how confident and relaxed Obama seemed in the speech.

(I saw the whole speech on cnn.com and it was GREAT! He seemed like he was just riffing and having fun. One of his best!)

[medicswife]

60. I love that he says, "Not to offend anyone"

And then speaks it loud and true. No pandering, just the facts. Plain and simple. Tell it like it is.

I suspected that he had this in him, and it was what I loved in Biden, no pandering....

[K Gardner]

64. Yeah, that riled me too when he started dissing BOTH candidates for

running fear ads and did not even differentiate that Obama's was a copy/response to Hillarys.

Like I said, I think he's behind and just can't get caught up. The world of information moves too fast for him now and his Time is Passing Him By. (old Joan Baez song!)

[Sparkly]

63. I also thought I heard an implication that self-reliance is a turn-off to black people?

Did I hear that? I don't remember the words, but got the sense he was saying the message of self-reliance is something black voters would have a hard time with.

:wtf:

Why does Tweety have his own show?

[K Gardner]

65. Yes, there definitely was that implication. The whole segment was

horribly race-tinged and demeaning to huge segments of people. I'm hoping the transcript is up soon. He needs to be called on this crap.

By the tens of millions of voters who are voting Obama and turning this country around. No room for Tweety in THIS big House we're building, LOL.

[KLee]

66. It's called American Values.....

or did the conservatives think they monopolized that value?

[DemGa]

68. This is easy to explain

First, parents loving their children and telling them to do their homework needs no encouragement from St. Obama -- he is stating the obvious and it is quite silly, really.

And since their is no real substantive message being put forth, it is then a simple matter of examining affect -- and this is no doubt what Matthews was driving at.

Republicans put forth just such drivel -- as if to say THEY alone posses those values. And there is your parallel. I've seen the commercial/spot -- Matthews makes the good observation here.

[K Gardner]

69. Kicking for all the positive comments

[BenDavid]

70. Gee......maybe if there is a debate as to what candidate has the

best parenting skills then all the voters need do is look at the remarkable Chelsea Clinton. Bill and Hillary would win hands down.....Obama and michelle have a lot of time left to raise their kids up proper, but for now The Clintons win the parents contest....