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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:35 AM
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Obama's Pattern VERY disturbing in deed.'Damaging to the Party'
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 08:39 AM by indimuse
This ...This right here is what I've been talking about!
Obama Camp: Clinton Tactics 'Damaging to the Party':wtf:
Sen. Barack Obama's (Ill.) campaign manager asserted in a conference call this morning that the tactics employed by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) in regard to

the fight for Democratic delegates has the potential to fracture the party heading into the November election.

"This is a disturbing pattern,":eyes: said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe after the Politico's Roger Simon reported that the Clinton campaign was preparing to woo

pledged Obama delegates if the nomination fight lasts until the convention. He decried such tactics as "trickery" and added that this sort of ..:eyes:

Obama's Pattern VERY disturbing in deed....:grr:
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Obama's Pattern VERY disturbing in deed.... Make sure you accuse the opposite party of that very thing you are guilty of ...putting it out there first..hence...now opposite party on the defensive....while allowing yourself to appear clean and victim like...

How many times have you heard Obama use this phrase in interviews ~ debates..."This is a disturbing pattern,"

:wtf: Obama's disturbing pattern"..:grr:His campaign is spreading rumors such as :: If Hillary continues to Nov She will fracture the party!

:wtf: Obama's disturbing pattern"..:grr:
Accuses Hillary of:: "grasping at straws is very harmful to the party."

BUT Obama is the one GRASPING and Harmful to our party and MUCH MUCH MORE!! ::: “African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.),


:wtf: Obama's disturbing pattern"..:grr:

WOW....."trickery"...I guess that would fit in with her Witchiness...?

The Obama campaign is the most shadiest group of....

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/02/obama_campaign_manager_clinton.html

TENNESSEE GUERILLA WOMEN
Friday, February 29, 2008
African-American Super-delegates Stick With Hillary Despite Threats from Obama Fans


So it's not just on the internet and in the caucuses where you will find Hillary supporters being harassed, intimidated and threatened. African-American super-delegates

are also targeted by the subscribers to the new Politics of Hope and Unity wing of goddess only knows what party. This is exactly the kind of behavior that is feeding

the alienation of many Democrats, especially women.

The more things change. . . .

Politico: African-American superdelegates said Thursday that they’ll stand up against threats, intimidation and “Uncle Tom” smears rather than switch their support

from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to Sen. Barack Obama.

“African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who has supported Clinton

since August. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving “nasty letters, phone calls, threats they’ll get an opponent, being called an Uncle Tom.

“This is the politics of the 1950s,” he complained. “A lot of members are experiencing a lot of ugly stuff. They’re not going to talk about it, but it’s happening.” Rep.

Diane E. Watson (D-Calif.), a black lawmaker and Clinton backer, said the intense lobbying for Obama would not alter her vote.

“I’ve gotten threatening mail,” Watson said. “They say, ‘Your district went 61-29 Obama and you need to change.’ But I don’t intimidate. I can hold the ground. … I

would lose my seat over my principles.” . . . Black superdelegates are getting heavy pressure from such groups as ColorOfChange.org, a grass-roots organization

backing Obama.


Ohio Super-delegate Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones Defends Hillary from Media Race-baiting (1/08) ~~~~~~~~YouTube video~~~~~~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e40oCMqFuZs&eurl=http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/02/african-american-super-delegates-stick.html


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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:42 AM
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1. Do you have any proof from someone other than a Clinton supporter?
Your argument is poor if you don't.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:48 AM
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2. you mean there was an argument in there? Where?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:04 AM
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14. see no evil hear no evil as he walks on water throwing lies/smears at others
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:06 AM
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17. no argument...JUST FACT!
!!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:37 PM
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33. facts? my ass.
"BUT Obama is the one GRASPING and Harmful to our party and MUCH MUCH MORE!! "


FACTS? you folks are so desperate you make the Cubs look like winners.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:50 AM
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7. Go google
It's been reported enough times in the news. The African american targeting was mentioned yesterday on DU. Most have noticed this disturbing pattern about Obama long before now.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:54 AM
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8. Minimization, denial, rationalization, and blanking
The obfuscation inherent in your reply to the OP is taught in Debate 101.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:06 AM
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16. Yeah, Our Elected Officials Are Always Lying. We Can't Believe Them
Without a lie detector test.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:16 AM
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22. What Proof, And From Whom, Then?
Do you really expect signed confessions from those exerting the alleged pressure?

If multiple victims in responsible positions aren't credible enough for you to investigate, then there will be enough intimidating letters and documentations of harassing emails and so forth, and it will come out.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:36 AM
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26. and your attempt to distract is LAME--lame indeed
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:49 AM
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3. Drug dealer, fairy tale, imaginary hip black friend, gang bang, cult, shuck-and-jive, Hispanics
don't vote for black people, Obama is Somalian, Obama meets with former terrorists, all from Hillary's campaign and surrogates.

links

Hillary's campaign played the fear card in a new ad.

More: Hillary Plagiarized "3 AM" via McCain Youtube Video

It would help if her $10 million chief campaign strategist did some research. Here's the irony (sticking Bill's foot in his mouth without permission).

Bill on why Hillary's ad is bogus: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/29/155558/168/352/466445">Clinton on Fear Vs Hope


Hillary should have fired Mark Penn for consistently being wrong




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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:06 AM
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15. fairy tale re non-support was true, shuck and jive as a slur was Obama playing race card
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:26 AM
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25. BS! Were drug dealer, meeting former terrorists, Somalian claims also Obama's fault? n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 09:26 AM by ProSense
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:49 AM
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4. Wow. What a mess.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:49 AM
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5. So much energy for a candidate that is done...
...toast


Save your energy. President Obama is going to need your help.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:50 AM
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6. Nice emoticons,
Really nice emoticons -- some of my faves.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:01 AM
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11. you're ok with threatening people..dems..etc...
can you see past your nose?
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Demagitator Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:57 AM
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9. Obama with his spiritual advisor Jeremiah Wright
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:00 AM
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10. OK now I have to take an extra Gingko today.
:mad:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:02 AM
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12. The daily post and call in strategy.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:03 AM
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13. lets let the superdelegates decide
who destroyed the party
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:09 AM
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18. Good on the super delegates that have spines to speak truth about what Obama has been up to.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:24 AM
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24. his supporter are in denial..
could you imagine HIllary's campaign THREATENING people??? Hellooooo...

I feel this will truly damage a lot of people in the long run...relationships will be severed ..will take while to heal. People may become bitter and not vote again for some... Obama has become a master divider...He is practicing the SAME Politics of OLD...some change..
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:09 AM
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19. WTF????
Feel better now that you have taken a dump? :eyes:
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:10 AM
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20. wow... you're just a tad unhinged about this
The first part of your rant is about a BLOG about another story.

Obama's campaign manager was asked about somebody else's assessment of what Hillary's campaign might do if this goes all the way to the convention.
The 'grasping at straws' comment was in relation was also in relation to that assessment.

Further, it seems highly likely that if this does end up being decided by superdelegates (which is what will happen if this goes on that long) that it will pose significant problems for the party... up to splitting it .... regardless of who ultimately gets the nomination.
Acknowledging this isn't inherently anti Clinton or anti Obama, though as can be expected from campaign staffers of either side, they will attempt to cast it in that light.

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:38 AM
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27. (psst! These are instructions for the day, not facts or rational argument!)
Now, watch this nonsense spread like an oilspill from the Exxon Valdez
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:13 AM
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21. As Hillary's campaign becomes less effectual so do her supporters claims...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:39 AM
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28. as Hillary holds him at bay--many Obamasupporters more divisive -like BO
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:20 AM
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23. I just don't want McCain...
Which is why I am voting for Obama. IMO, there is way less dirt and hatred that the GOP can fling at him. But, believe me, I am once again holding my nose this time and simply voting in my party's best interests.

The sad, ugly truth is that NEITHER candidate really cares about me or you, no matter how much of a rock star/role model you think they are... Vote strategically, not personally.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:43 AM
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29. It is clear to me that Obama campaign is tearing this party apart with their lies and dirty politics
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:56 AM
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30. It's clear to me that all the hillbots are desperate as the Hillary
campaign goes through it's death throes. And I have little sympathy for the nastier ones. There are a lot of good folks here supporting Hillary, but there are a fair number of nasty hillbots who are nothing but smear artists. To hell with them.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:18 AM
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31. ...
:boring:..
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:20 AM
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32. I'm afraid..
it's going to get worse after Tues..
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 02:06 PM
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34. Hillaryis44
The Barack Obama Cesspool Threat

The Barack Obama Stench


Whoever runs that site must be on crack!

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 02:08 PM
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35. The Clintons ARE choking the life out of the party with their cheese.
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 02:09 PM by AtomicKitten
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 06:56 AM
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36. Inquiring minds need to know?
If you are trying to prove that Obama supporters are bigger assholes than Hillary supporters, then I for one need more data to decide which assholes not to support in November.
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