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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:17 PM
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It's funny how DU used to rail against the MSM - but now that they are annointing Obama
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 02:59 PM by jlake
the MSM is to be trusted and can do little wrong and any questioning of them is "Tin foil thinking" and "Blaming the MSM for Hillary's decisions"

Sounds an awful lot like the Republicans in years past.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:24 PM
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1. A spurious claim is just that
Obama supporters have certainly not said the MSM can do no wrong. And If there are posts claiming the things you place in quotation marks, you haven't give any evidence to support it.

You're just pulling crap out of your nether regions and telling us it's fact. It's not. It's crap and it stinks.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:29 PM
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4. well said cali-

here jthat?

-keep your nether-crap to yourself!!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:25 PM
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2. its always sad when the chickens come home to roost
and people have the endure the same treatment they used on others.

oh woe is them.
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:27 PM
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3. I agree.
The whole fanatical cult energy among some Obama supporters looks and feels the same as the Republicans when they drank the Kool-Aid and came unglued over anyone's questioning of him or his supporters.

Bush was all hat & no cattle, let's hope Obama can do something wonderful despite his lack of experience and base of looney supporters (those of them that are looney, yes I know, much of his base isn't acting like this, I'm just talking about the most vocal lunatics).
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:29 PM
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5. Old J
needs to jump in a lake. Posts are getting very weak, tired, boring and just plain nuts.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:30 PM
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WTF does that mean?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:44 PM
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16. Would you like a link to an on-line dictionary?
Or should we just spell it out in monosyllabic terms for you?

Your call....
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:44 PM
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17. Please spell it out.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:47 PM
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:44 PM
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18. Self Delete
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 02:45 PM by ResetButton
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:46 PM
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20. You must work for Bush?
Take your torture practices elsewhere.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:01 PM
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28. Ahem. See my post #9 below? Still waiting on that link. Thanks.
n/t.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:07 PM
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30. Ha, if anyone is suspect for working for Bush...
Your propagandizing is so relentless, focused, and single minded, I'm not even sure you really support Hillary.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:08 PM
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31. Hillary will win. Accusing someone of being akin to water torture (pre edit) is
very Bushesque.
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:30 PM
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6. And yet, you click on them.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:34 PM
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11. Most of the time not
In this case I didn't read the poster...

However it is getting to the point that I don't even have to look at the name...I can tell by the post who it is.

good luck!
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:37 PM
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12. I think the hysterical supporters expect all matters to be
solved in the first 2 or 3 months of the presidency. Boy, do they have a surprise in store. I think many will turn on him by the end of the first year. Especially when they find he is not what he appears to be.No politician is what they appear to be during a campaign.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:31 PM
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8. Not what I am seeing on CNN today
They are now into HRC can make a resurgence mode.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:48 AM
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53. LOVED it---past time she got some good coverage of her campaign!
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:31 PM
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It's like they've been taken over by pod people.
I wonder if they ever just stop and listen to themselves sometimes. On and on about how we should disenfranchise voters; the media loves Obama, yay!; health care mandates are horrible (unless they're for children, of course); yay Republicans are on board, so we don't need large chunks of the Democratic base; the Clenis and his meaningless wife are responsible for all the ills in the world... I could go on and on.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:51 PM
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23. What you say....it's incredible what goes on here. n/t
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:31 PM
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9. And I just know you have a link to a post by an Obama supporter saying exactly that, right? Right?
:eyes:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:33 PM
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10. I agree. Remember when we sent letters to MSM for their slanted coverage?
Remember when the MSM refused to cover anything negative against Bush? And Gore lost, in part because of the media?

And now, the Obama supporters on DU cheer when Clinton is attacked. Distortions, lies, they don't care as long as it helps their candidate.

So much for democracy.

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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:54 PM
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24. And the Clinton supporters -never- do that, right?
Come on.

You've got a Hillary supporter on this board today, citing Mary Matalin as an unimpeachable source proving that Obama lies. Tell me when the last time was that anyone on DU trusted Matalin as a good source for anything besides Rightard bullshit?

I'd say that both sides engage in this, but each side is blind to their own transgressions.

- as
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:29 PM
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45. True.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:41 PM
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13. Very courageous that you posted this...
I've noted this myself, but in my strong dislike of arguing I've not voiced it. There was a time -- on this board especially -- when almost everything the MSM said was questioned; however, now the MSM, while not being called blameless, has somehow morphed into being almost completely trustworthy in its coverage and wholly without bias. Things are certainly bass-ackwards when this happens on DU. I grieve.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:45 PM
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19. Thanks. I agree. I have edited the OP to more reflect what you said.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:42 PM
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14. Isn't It Funny How The Winners Always Get The "Good" Press
And the whiners are usually losers?
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:43 PM
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15. Yes. The question is which came first the chicken or the egg.
Obama is winning because of the press.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:02 PM
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29. I Would Point Out All The "Good" Press Hillary Got When She Was The Presumtive Frontrunner...
But you're not really interested in any kind of substantive discussion, you just want to slam Obama despite your lack of foundation for any argument.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:27 PM
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41. Bush was a winner too... Might I remind you?
I also say that to point out the large gap in logic in your post. In no way do I mean to equate Obama -- a great man -- with that sniveling pile of puss, GWB.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:57 PM
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26. MSM "annointed" Hillary the front runner a yr before a vote was cast. MSM isn't going to ignore 11
straight wins.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:00 PM
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27. No, of course not - they created them.... why ignore their masterpiece?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:19 PM
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35. The people are talking; you're just not listening. nt
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:20 PM
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36. Yes, they are saying that they want Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama has not run away with the nominatinon - much to your displeasure.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:26 PM
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40. Tell that to folks who voted in the last ELEVEN primaries. nt
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:27 PM
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42. Tell that to the Democratic popular vote with is 50/50
Those GOP crossover voters are trying to torpedo our chances... I won't be fooled.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:38 PM
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49. Wow, what a margin she's ahead by!
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 03:39 PM by babylonsister
:rofl: Good luck Tuesday.
And do you have a link for that fabulous news?
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MR. ELECTABLE Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:16 PM
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32. I call bullshit
The MSM isn't anointing Obama so much as they are realigning their spin with reality.
Obama has won 70% of the primaries and caucuses, and the last 11 consecutive contests.

With the most likely scenario for Tuesday being no change with respect to Obama's 150+ pledged delegate
lead, there is essentially no way for Clinton to ever overtake him.

What the media is doing now is called saving face. They don't want the public to actually wake up and realize
the MSM is just spinning bullshit to create controversy and keep their ratings up.

The fact that they are still pushing her as a viable contender for the nomination is a laughable,
but the longer they can focus on the horse-race the more money they can make off of the respective campaigns.

The MSM con will continue until one of the campaigns leaves the race, either through bankruptcy,
realization they can not win, mathematical impossibility, or superdelegate/democratic party force.

I'm betting the MSM knows the party is about to force its hand next week, and doesn't want to be on the
wrong side of a losing argument.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:19 PM
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33. That sounds about right to me.
They desperately want to wash away that history of Hillary's 'inevitability.' They hate being wrong, so they'll just move on to the next thing that they can get right.

- as
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:24 PM
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39. Wrongo. Hillary is 44!
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:19 PM
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34. Good point.
Glad someone else hasn't got the blinders on.

Notice all of Obama's big gains have come in the states where you can cross party lines to vote?

You think any Republicans are bulking up on the Obama side to sabotage Clinton's chances? Hmmmm....

A lot of Obama voters simply aren't old enough to know what happened to the country in the 1990s. They don't remember the virulent Republican hatred for the Clintons and how they'd literally do anything to wreck the Clintons' lives.

Dollars to donuts that's what's happening here. The Obama people are walking around in a fog like they don't even know this could happen.

It's hilarious to see the Obama camp's new love for the media now that all the polls-- and anyone can order a poll, by the way-- are so up and down. They report the ones in his favor, but they say nothing about the ones that show support for Sen. Clinton. And of course they never mention the crossover factor.

It's not popular to say this on DU, but this is definitely still a race.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:21 PM
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37. I remember when links were posted and not just opinions nt
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:23 PM
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38. Back in the late 1800s maybe.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:31 PM
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46. thanks for the jackass response, fucking grow up nt
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:34 PM
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47. Sorry, but I read very few posts with links to anything other than blogs that could've been self
authored anyway.

But seriously, lighten up.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:37 PM
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48. ok
fair enough, I just hate seeing blanket statements put out on DU without anything to back them up thats all.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:47 AM
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52. I assume your comment applies to Obama supporters also?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 03:29 PM
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44. That is one of many Obama/Bush comparisons.
I will have no sympathy for the Obambots in the fall when the msm turns on him.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:33 AM
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50. The primaries and caucuses have given Sen. Obama is edge in delegates
who in turn will cast support in Denver this fall.

DU is a great place but we aren't running the election.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:43 AM
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51. well said.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 06:56 AM
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54. Does "our time"
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 06:57 AM by JoFerret
mean msm?

Why do I have the sense it does not include me?
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