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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:24 PM
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Obama did not vote against the war.His entire campaign is built
around the notion that he was bravely against the war when all the 'Chicken Littles' voted to 'protect America,' yet he never cast that vote.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:25 PM
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1. Strawman.
He's never said he voted against the IWR. Just that he was against it.

Were you, Ben?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:26 PM
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2. Which candidate was it who was in the Senate at the time and DID vote?
:think:

Whatshername voted for that instrument, even though tens of thousands Americans with less access to INTEL knew the whole pretext for war was a lie.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:30 PM
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6. worse yet momma
was that she didn't even read the NIE-she had her staff read it for her-now that is amazing. The most important vote in a generation and she, who will "be ready from day one" couldn't even be bothered to read the National Intelligence Estimate-pitiful. Thanks Mrs. Clinton your vote is in part responsible for 4000 dead Americans and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi men, WOMEN and children
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:36 PM
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12. Right you are. Too busy getting the right look for a presidential run to attend to details about war
Ambition is good, but taken in such quantities to blind an intelligent person like HRC, well, that has reached toxic levels.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:27 PM
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3. Did he vote for the war?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:27 PM
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4. It isn't his entire campaign.
Although it has become more important as McCain gets more vocal in support of the war.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:27 PM
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5. he wasn't even in the Senate then.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:32 PM
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7. Oh, come on.
Do you even remember what it was like back then? The drum beat for war was overwhelming. We at DU were part of a very small group of people who opposed the war. Obama was one of those people. He bravely spoke out against the war when it probably would have been better for him politically if he had supported it then.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:34 PM
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8. BenDavid, you let me down. I was expecting your normal hate piece
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:35 PM
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9. Plus, you can't believe a word he says. I read on DU all
weekend about his being born or not born to a single mother and no one could come up with anything concrete. He wrote one thing in his book and said another thing in Little Rhody. He basically calls Canadians liars, then we find out, they are telling the truth according to the AP regarding a memo they have in their possession. Then there is his boneheaded MISTAKE regarding his home purchase, then we learn that they have been close friends and allies for 18 years or more. Yeah, he said he was against the war, then said he wasn't to protect Kerry/Edwards. I do not believe ONE WORD he says anymore. When you add up all the bull crap, how is anyone suppose to believe him?
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:38 PM
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13. He's just having some bone-headed moments........
A lot of them. :sarcasm:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:43 PM
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17. OMG..you want proof...
his mother, and grandparents raised him? Or do you find fault with the fact that his mother remarried? I missed the Canadians are liars thing..do you have a link? His home purchase has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, as has his 'work' involving Rezko. He said no such thing about being for the war to protect Kerry/Edwards. What he said was that he did not wish to disparage them for that vote...seeing how they both stated they'd made a mistake. Don't believe ONE WORD the guy says, but don't post bullshit.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:35 PM
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10. he made one small speech at one small rally one time - and then fell silent
Wow. That's awesome!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:35 PM
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11. The point is Hillary DID abdicate her war-declaring powers to an idiot.
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:38 PM
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14. I didn't know you had to be a senator in order to make a stand
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 01:39 PM by George_Bonanza
Guess all those peace activists were just wasting their time as well since they didn't have a senate vote to cast.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:40 PM
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15. Just like his speech about not voting for war, he gave one about not funding the war
But what did he do? He not only voted for funding, but he didn't stand with other Democrats (including Clinton and Edwards) in demanding that Bush include timelines for withdrawal. Nope, he immediately rolled over and said if Bush vetoes the bill, they'll send him another with Bush's objections removed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4825736

Obama says one thing, then does another.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:40 PM
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16. REC
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:51 PM
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18. is that the best you got?
On top of sounding desperate, as usual, you also sound lame.

Time to give it a rest, methinks.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 01:52 PM
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19. dupe
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 01:52 PM by onenote
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:30 PM
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20. yes, that is what Hillary said on the trail yesterday---you go Hillary
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:36 PM
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21. If Obama was truly against the war, he'd invent a time machine, and run for Senate in 1998
Obviously, he didn't have the foresight in '98 to win his Senate seat, so he could be available to vote against the IWR.

Besides, haven't you heard? Voting for that resolution was actually a vote AGAINST war! :sarcasm:
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 02:37 PM
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22. you are right
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:58 PM
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23. SOS
different asshole.
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