Obama supportors/Hillary haters - GET A FUCKING GRIP ON REALITY

[dbackjon]

She did not Endorse McCain.


Your lame smears are tearing the party apart.

[mohc]

1. Project much? n/t

[Angela Shelley]

2. Close, but no cigar.

[SoonerPride]

6. Are you sure you should use the word "cigar" in post re: a Clinton?

Just sayin'.

[Angela Shelley]

27. I´m sure, thanks for asking.

I thought it to be a bit amusing :-)

:smoke:

[HughMoran]

34. That was uncalled for

See ya.

[emilyg]

36. Dumb.

[bowens43]

3. Hillary's implication that McCain is a better choice

then Obama along with the Rovian tactics, lies and distrtions Clinton has been using since day one are tearing the party apart.

[dbackjon]

7. No = she did not say that

She made a comparison.

End of mountain outta molehill story.

[tabatha]

30. Well, both Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow

were not impressed.

[emilyg]

38. Think for yourself.

[Saturday]

4. They won't hear you, they have their fingers in their ears. n/t

[damntexdem]

25. Are you sure those aren't cigars?

[marylanddem]

5. Wrong. HILLARY is tearing the party apart

with her abominable lowlife stoop-to-nothing tactics. Whether you call it "endorsing" or "Praising" McCain it amounts to the same thing - she's sticking it to Obama. And it is a disgusting and traitorous tactic.

[aquarius dawning]

11. Obama praised Reagan. Where was the outrage then?

[melody]

18. I was outraged -- I complained all over the place -- but I'm much angrier about this

Go ahead, do a search under my name and "Obama" and "Reagan" -- all will be revealed.

But this is far worse.

[anigbrowl]

19. Not by contrasting him with Hillary

You don't have to like Reagan's policies to acknowledge that he was a hugely successful and popular politician.

[bellasgrams]

32. anig, you are either a repb or are very young. Reagan was not

a popular president to anyone but repbs. He was not successful. A lot of his admin was found guilty in the Iran-Contra scandle. He was mentally incapacitated while in office but it was not made public. I thought he was senile until they later told us his disease. But NO, he was not a good president. Nancy called in physics to help him make decisions.

[anigbrowl]

40. You need to take some remedial reading lessons

I said Reagan was a popular and successful POLITICIAN. I also think he was a terrible president, but he was very popular at the time. Consider the 1984 elections.



Your post is a typical example of partisan thinking blinding you to reality. Not only are you unable to acknowledge Reagan's demonstrable popularity at the polls, but it's made you unabel to read what I wrote - instead you replied to what you thought I was saying instead of what I actually said.

[VolcanoJen]

20. Are you kidding? You guys (and Bill Clinton) screamed about it for weeks.

And then she lost 11 straight contests.

[Window]

43. LOL!

:rofl:

[Thepricebreaker]

39. Reagan isnt running for President to use those words against him.

[zulchzulu]

44. Bill and Hillary praised Reagan as a leader

1. Bill Clinton as paraphrased by the Washington Post on 10/17/91 Washington Post:

The Democratic presidential candidate (Clinton) who has tried to differentiate (himself) by tacking to the center on some key issues, said yesterday that former president Ronald Reagan’s defense buildup had hastened the collapse of Soviet communism. Breaking with the widespread position of liberals that Reagan’s military program had little to do with the Soviet system’s collapse, the candidate also praised Reagan’s "rhetoric in defense of freedom" and his role in "advancing the idea that communism could be rolled back." (Clinton) was careful to add that the Reagan military program included "a lot of wasted money and unnecessary expenditure." Still, (the candidate) said, Reagan deserved credit for "the idea that he wanted to stand up to (Communism)"

2. Bill Clinton Dedication of Reagan Library, 5/5/98]:

(I feel Reagan’s) unflagging optimism, his proud patriotism, his unabashed faith in the American people…. I am confident that we will again make the right choices for America, that we will take up where President Reagan left off — to lead freedom’s march boldly into the 21st century.

3. Hillary Clinton, quoted in Tom Brokaw’s book "Boom," page 404:

(Reagan was) a child of the Depression, so he understood (economic pressures on the working and middle class). When he had those big tax cuts and they went too far, he oversaw the largest tax increase. He could call the Soviet Union the Evil Empire and then negotiate arms-control agreements. He played the balance and the music beautifully.

Obama, on the other hand, merely said we need to have a Democrat who is as popular as Reagan was to move the progressive agenda forward. Granted, this falls on deaf ears to college dropouts who tend to support Hillary...

[dbackjon]

13. Same crap the homophobe is pulling

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. Alright, I'll disregard my lying ears.

And take you at your word, as far as I know.

[DJ13]

9. Hillarys hero

[marylanddem]

15. Is that Falwell? Whoever it is, great art!

[DearAbby]

23. HOW GREAT THOU ART! nt

[RememberWellstone]

10. Desperation!!

They have no substance in the Obamalama ding dong campaign..it is and has been a bumper sticker campaign. Now they act like 5 year old children pointed out who is chewing gum in class.

[Drunken Irishman]

17. Funny, I thought desperation was spelled H-I-L-L-A-R-Y.

[Drunken Irishman]

12. She pretty much did.

Even if she didn't mean it.

Hillary has made this a campaign about EXPERIENCE, not judgment, not issues. To her, the bottom line for her campaign and this election centers around experience. So when she says McCain has more experience than Obama, and that is her central campaign stance, she's suggesting McCain would be a better president than Obama.

[anigbrowl]

14. And McCain won't use that quote if Obama is the nominee?

You know full well that we'll be hearing it from now to November, and it'll be on every freeper's list of reliable flamebait.

[truebrit71]

16. You're right. She said McCain was better than Obama, she didn't endorse him...

...:eyes:

What she said was despicable and borders on unforgivable...

[jgraz]

21. Name any other candidate who praised the opposition at the expense of a primary opponent.

[bellasgrams]

35. jgraz, BO in his praise of Republicans

[anigbrowl]

42. Untrue

But as you've shown above, you're not troubled by things like accuracy.

[bluestateguy]

22. You are right

But the remark she made is tailor made for a soundbite that could be used in one of his ads. That may not be what she meant, but that is what happened.

[damntexdem]

24. No she didn't -- she just rated Obama behind McClain.

But "so far as she knows," Obama isn't a Muslim. Oh what a nice, happy campaign she is running. ;-)

Hopefully it will end tonight.

[Window]

45. Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully!!!

Yes!

[bunnies]

26. Has everyone forgotten that "experience" is her platform?

Her argument for herself is EXPERIENCE. She has it = good, McCain has it = good. Obama doesnt = bad.

Its not complicated.

[mmonk]

28. I didn't take it as an endorsement, just bad taste smear politics.

[Mass]

29. No, she is tearning the party apart.

It was not an endorsement. It was worse: smearing her opponent by comparing him unfavorably to the Republican nominee.

[MoonRiver]

31. I really don't think they care.

Matter of fact, I absolutely believe that many here WANT TO DESTROY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

[dionysus]

33. here, you needs your banky

[wryter2000]

37. Since you asked so sweetly...

<yawn>

[zulchzulu]

41. If you still support Hillary, YOU HAVE NO GRIP ON REALITY...

...or at least you would rather a Democratic candidate praise our OPPOSITION than shut her fucking piehole.

She is a turncoat. The Clintons want power at all costs...even if it means destroying the Democratic party.

[dbackjon]

46. Actually, at this point, both candidates are making me puke

As are their blind supporters.

[zulchzulu]

49. So what is your solution then...

I don't agree with EVERYTHING Obama stands for, but to me and anyone else who thinks that a turncoat to the Democratic Party is poison to this party, there is no other choice.

I don't think there is any such thing as a "blind" supporter. Not in real life anyway...

[dbackjon]

50. both sides share plenty of blame

And the relentless attacks calling either "traitors" or "turncoats", or bitches, or worse need to stop, today.


From my standpoint, what Obama has done pandering to homophobic bigots is far worse.

Both are bad, but I don't trust Obama.



Solution: AL GORE!!

[Hoof Hearted]

47. Well DU maybe. But you're right, it's LAME, and unbelievably desperate.

[Rocky2007]

48. You're joking -- right???

[dbackjon]

52. Do I look like it?

[NanBo]

51. You're the one YELLING

perhaps a grip should be gotten by you?

[donheld]

53. They are not tearing the party apart

You have to remember 99.99% of the world will never see that crap. Only us nutjobs who live at DU.

[barack the house]

54. It's meant to ber OPPONENT.

[jazzjunkysue]

55. Black pot, meet black kettle. "HEllo! Mr. Black Pot!"

[rodeodance]

56. Yes--you hater's are "Your lame smears are tearing the party apart."!!