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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:32 PM
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Hillary lost big tonight -- she needed supermajority victories in 3 or 4 of these states...
to catch up with Obama. Didn't happen.

Hillary's out. She doesn't know it or recognize it yet.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:33 PM
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1. Perhaps you should dash an email off to her.
No doubt she'd appreciate your insight.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:33 PM
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2. Stop spinning already
you'll get so dizzy you'll fall flat on your ass!
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:34 PM
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5. How is that spinning? Even her own campaign was saying as much a week ago.
Before they spun and moved the goal posts.

She just doesn't have math behind her.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:34 PM
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3. I haven't seen a 65% win yet or anything very close.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:34 PM
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4. She is in it to win it (in 2012)
The longer she stays in, the better her chances are to win in 2012.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:36 PM
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7. Do you think she'll contest the nomination against Obama if he is the sitting Pres?
:wow:
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:40 PM
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13. No, which is why she is staying in this year
The longer she stays in, the more it distracts and hurts Obama's chances to win against McCain. So Hillary's actions will help McCain, which helps her chances of being able to run in 2012.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:55 PM
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28. I said it two weeks ago
She will go down clawing the Democratic Party with her.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:35 PM
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6. I wouldn't say she lost or won. She survived.
I still haven't had a Clinton supporter give me a detailed analysis of how she overcomes the delegate math stacked against her.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:37 PM
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9. OMG thanks for getting that song in my head
At first I was afraid, I was petrified...........

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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:38 PM
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11. Easy peasy. It's called the RULE. The RULE is a candidate needs 2025 delegates.
Ya know, the RULE --- just like the RULE that discounts the FL and MI primaries.

The RULES of the DNC.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:42 PM
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16. She maintained at the treading water stage...
And the beat goes on.

Obama's delegate math is basically the same, which means he still is the winner --- and still in the lead for the nomination!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:52 PM
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25. what are the totals tonight, minus texas yet so far?
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:37 PM
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8. Okay...this is just plain silly
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:37 PM
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10. Thank you for the sanity and logic!!!
Phew.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:39 PM
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12. another spooge thread
LOL
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:40 PM
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14. ~ * ~ ......
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:42 PM
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15. In the end, Obama may win more delegates
Wait and see.
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:42 PM
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17. Bingo! She only gains a whopping 20 delegats..
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:43 PM
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18. Another Obamalamadingdong heard from.
:boring:
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:44 PM
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19. Yay! Post 2 more, quick!
:bounce:
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:46 PM
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20. She did not accomplish what she needs to win the nom
that's for sure.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:46 PM
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21. LOL! Perception is all. COMEBACK KID!!!!
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:59 PM
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31. Perception
Perception is not all, and momentum means nothing when you have already lost the race. She is embarrasing herself and the party by not dropping out.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:12 AM
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34. I'm not a bit embarrassed.
And how dare you pull that crap tactic on me? I'm thrilled she didn't back down to your "movement." I'm delighted she stayed and fought. I've been looking for a candidate like that.

Did you really believe a WOMAN with the GUTS to run for president would back down to your stupid "shaming" pressure?
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:47 PM
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22. Not really....there's still PA left....PA, the fifth largest voting state...IF... she wins PA too...
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 11:49 PM by GreenTea
it'll come down to (without doubt) the convention....PA is now the key for both!!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:53 PM
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26. is this sarcasm?
:shrug: I'm not sure
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:47 PM
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23. NEITHER candidate has enough delegates to win the nomination
You know that right?
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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:48 PM
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24. hahahahahahahaha funny
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:54 PM
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27. ~ * ~........
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:57 PM
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29. LMFAO!
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 11:58 PM
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30. Um.... okay.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:01 AM
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32. What part of brokered convention do you not understand?
She will stay in the race until the bloom is off of the Obama rose - that is her entire strategy right now - ie as March and April roll along he gets brought down to human proportions and is seen as a regular politician (one with very little experience I might add) by the Rezko trial and the incompetence that he has shown in managing the NAFTA fiasco. Once Obama is brought down from the heavens, he has a REALLY hard time keeping any sort of momentum because once you get past all of the hoopla around him, there just isn't enough there there...

He has absolutely no choice right now but to go negative with her because by taking the body shots without going negative, he looks the fool. And when he does go negative, it will blow up in his face because he is supposed to be the 'transcendent' candidate.

Once the bloom is off the rose, the national polls with shift with the buyers remorse and the supers will take the permission that they were just granted by Donna Brazile tonight and make their choice based on "electability".

Don't ever underestimate the desire of the DNC to win the election. Hillary won the states that matter. They know this now. Ohio was the test of this.

They know that if she gets the nod, she will have a cordial and respectful debate with McCain because they respect one another. The campaign between Hillary and McCain will be about the substantive issues and with the mood of the country where it is and the economy in the crapper, Clinton will win in November.

She'll pick him as her running mate and he will accept this position because he won't have any choice.

You heard it here first :)
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:07 AM
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33. If he accepts second fiddle to her..he's lost me for sure
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:13 AM
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35. Not a chance.
Nobody picks a running mate who will knife you in the back.
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