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Tue Mar-04-08 11:59 PM
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Today my lifelong liberal Democrat sister told me that if Obama wins the nomination, she is voting for McCain.
DU, this is heartbreaking news to me. What is even worse is that she didn't even have a valid reason, she just said "I don't like him".
Help me with arguments to bring her back from the dark side.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:00 AM
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1. People from my brother's work tell him that Obama is the Anti Christ. |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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Those people you can't talk to because they're too far gone nt |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:04 AM
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And they're fucking nuts.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:00 AM
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2. How about "people vote for republicans, republicans win the presidency" |
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Sounds like a pretty good argument to me.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:00 AM
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3. Nope. I haven't any good arguments anymore.My family isdoing the same. |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:01 AM
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Find out the things that mclame has said and voted for that she hates the most and remind her over-and-over how mclame sponsored them, supported them, etc
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:01 AM
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5. My coworker's niece said that same thing. |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:01 AM
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6. just wait, when I was really pissed at Clinton, all it took was one McCain speech |
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Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM by FLDem5
to make me realize how stupid that was.
Also, tell her that this Pres may choose 3 SCOTUS members. Is her anger really worth that?
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:07 AM
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Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 12:08 AM by againes654
why didn't I think of that!!!! :banghead: :banghead:
Edit for wrong smiley
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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Ask her how she can possibly vote for McCain knowing that a) he will continue the war in Iraq and b) Supreme Court. Tell her if she wants to vote for him, fine, but if he is able to appoint two or more Supreme Court justices, she will have screwed the trajectory of the country for the simplistic, idiotic reason of "I don't like Obama". If she can live with that, fine.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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once they go into hillary, there's no exit strategy.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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8. a vote for McCain will be a vote for another bush era. |
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and does she even think about the Supreme Court and what the implications will be if McCain gets in.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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9. Sorry, but your sister is a moron |
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Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 12:03 AM by Tarc
In a democracy, the voters get the type of government that they deserve. If the idiots out there are going to let ego and pettiness rather than their own self-interest decide their vote, then people like her richly deserve a John McCain administration, and all the shit that will flow downhill from it.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:12 AM
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31. so I should just throw my hands up? |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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10. Let her make her own decisions.. |
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If he wins and is a terrible President, her guilt will be enough to make her never vote GOP again.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:03 AM
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Voted for Bush in 2000, and regrets it to this day. Whenever I bring it up to him he gets practically sick over it. Thankfully his vote didn't kill us since we were in Pennsylvania, but still...He hasn't voted GOP since.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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11. Just get her to watch 'Revenge of the Sith' |
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She'll work it out when she sees how badly things turn out for Darth Vader.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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If she's saying she will vote FOR McCain rather than |
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just staying home then she just may not be recoverable.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:11 AM
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I was shocked
A few months ago, I got upset with Clinton, and said "I won't vote for her, I will just stay home", but to actually go out and cast a repuke vote.
I am so sad!! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:02 AM
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12. I call bullshit...there is no way that a liberal democrat voted for a rethuglican... |
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...they might not vote for the Dem, they might not support the Dem, but VOTE for the rethug?
Fucking stupid...
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:07 AM
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25. It's possible they're venting |
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But it is rather strange that a liberal would vote for a republikkan
Unless all she watches is matthews and insanity in which case she'd have been told that mclame
Matthews: Maverick. With wide appeal for many Democrats. A real hero.
Insanity: A liberal parading as a conservative
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:19 AM
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39. Maybe the "Democrat" people do? |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:03 AM
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:13 AM
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why exactly is that funny?
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:03 AM
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15. Don't worry, I seriously doubt it! Unless this is just hype.......NO true liberal..... |
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would ever vote for McCain....Get REAL!
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:04 AM
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16. I've had people in my family say that, too |
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Life long Democrats. It shocked me. Most have said they'd just sit out, but a couple said they'd vote for McCain.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:04 AM
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17. Is it because he's black? nt |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:15 AM
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My husband is black, and they get along just fine. He was as shocked as I was. I promise it isn't that
One quick question: why would you assume I/she were not black? Just wondering?
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:04 AM
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19. Just take the distributer cap from her car on election day |
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Sorry.
I know how you feel. My mother says the exact same thing about Hillary Clinton. THe fact that she would vote for a republican drives a stake into my heart.
TOday I convinced someone who said - ah, what difference does it make who gets into office by saying -
do you want to keep abortion legal?
Do you want to make it so the government can't spy on you?
Do you want to make it so Americans can't be taken off the street and sent to a cell indefinitely without seeing a lawyer?
She said yes.
I said, then you know who to vote for.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:09 AM
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29. Yes, but HRC looks so... so... French |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:04 AM
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20. Your 'lifelong liberal Dem sister' was never |
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any of the above, if she could vote for McCain. However, I suspect this is just another attempt to undermine Hillary Clinton's candidacy, by inferring anyone not with O is with Mc. You bad!
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:17 AM
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38. GDP has made you a bit cynical |
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I suggest a long break, say until Oct. 2008. LOL
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:05 AM
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21. I don't like Obama either... |
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but I WILL vote for him if he's the nominee. Tell your sister if she doesn't feel comfortable voting for Obama, she could try thinking about it as a vote AGAINST McCain. If she's a lifelong liberal, she should be able to see many, many reasons why McCain should get nowhere near the White HOuse.
Besides, there's the little matter of SCOTUS appointees, and working with a Democratic Congress.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:05 AM
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22. Everybody I know says that. |
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If Barack hadn’t race baited early on in the primary, a lot of people wouldn’t feel this way.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:06 AM
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23. Try going over the issues with your sister |
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Obama may be the worst of the Dem. candidates, but he's FAR better than McCain.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:08 AM
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26. You can't change her mind. |
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Only she can do it. The more you try the less chance there will be. All you can do is let her see you happy with your decision. She may come around,its a long time until we vote.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:08 AM
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27. I don't care for him all that much either |
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but he's worlds better than McCain.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:08 AM
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28. Ask her if she wants.. |
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To see abortions--ALL abortions--made illegal.
Ask her if she wants us to be in Iraq for 100 years.
Ask her if she wants to see global warming raptly ignored.
Ask her if she wants to see SCHIP abandonned, or Medicaid cut to the bone, or Social Security privatized.
Ask her if she wants to elect a president, or someone who looks like an old Soviet Politburo member.
But please, wait until she cools down before you ask her all that!:eyes:
B-)
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:13 AM
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32. Ask her if she enjoys seeing people without medical insurance n/t |
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:13 AM
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33. Remind her about 'bomb, bomb, bomb Iran' |
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If she's a liberal, she probably doesn't want this war, and it might do some good to remind her that McCain plans to stay in Iraq indefinitely, and he will likely start other wars, since he seems to be so glib about bombing Iran. Remind her the fucker is crazy. I'm not impressed with fine speeches, either, but Christ, Obama is better than McCain by far.
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:14 AM
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35. Did you ever see Moonstruck? |
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Slap her ala Cher and say ..... "Snap out of it".
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:16 AM
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37. "she just said "I don't like him"." |
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To me that's never a good enough reason. Are these people so shallow that they feel they don't need a reason to dislike someone?
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Wed Mar-05-08 12:21 AM
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and I really can't explain how smart this girl is. She is in the top 4% of her law school class.
I really hope she was just venting, and will come around. I will remind her of SCOTUS, that should do it.
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