Voting for Hillary because of gender...

[cynatnite]

I know I'll get slammed for this, but part of the reason I support Hillary is because she's a woman. I'm not ashamed to say so either.

In my family, the women hold it all together for the most part. We run the households, raise the kids, and make the big decisions for the most part. Our men are not threatened by our strong opinions and independence. In fact, that's a lot of the reason why they love us. The women in my family are strong and we're fighters. We're also compasionate, loving and full of life. We don't lose our identity in our husbands or children. We know who we are and we're damn proud of it.

Hillary reminds me of the women in my family and I truly believe she possesses many of those attributes that the wonderful women in my family have. Many of the republican women in my family have stated they will vote for Hillary should she win the nomination rather than a male republican. They feel pretty much the same as I do.

I do think a lot of women who support Hillary do so partly because she is a woman and IMO it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Men have had centuries of running the world for the most part and have done a fine job of fucking it up. They had their chance and blew it.

If Hillary wins the nomination don't be surprised if women all across the the political spectrum vote for her because she's a woman.

*puts on flame-retardant suit*

[LadyVT]

1. Lots of people vote on one issue... you have a right to decide for yourself!

I know people who vote on pro-choice and that's their #1. Some are voting for Obama because of his race. Or because he represents, to them, "change." Many people vote based on one primary thing.

You have nothing to be ashamed of.

[k8conant]

2. Sexist...would you vote for Cindy McCain or Laura Bush??? n/t

[moobu2]

6. no different than up to 90% of blacks voting for Borack

[cynatnite]

8. Hmm...you must have missed the part where I said 'partly'...

:eyes:

[DemBones DemBones]

15. Reading is fundamental. She said PART OF the reason she supports HRC

is that she's a woman.

Do you ask black people who support Obama if they would vote for black Republicans and call them racists if they say they are voting for him in part or in whole because he's black?

Didn't think so.

[Sparkly]

28. Would minorities voting for Obama also vote for Alan Keyes?

Come on, now. There's reason for pride in Obama among black voters, and reason for pride in Clinton among women voters.

It doesn't mean black Democrats would vote for just ANY black candidate, nor that women voters would vote for just ANY woman candidate. (Nor that race and gender are the only factors involved.)

Don't pretend people are stupid.

[rodeodance]

38. OP is talking 'in part"--you lose you silly argument!

[Dinger]

3. ItI Was A PART Of The Reason I Voted For Her Too

LIke I said earlier, my husband voted for Obama, and he regrets that now.

[judaspriestess]

4. I was/am an Edwards supporter becasue of his progressive views

I have always, always liked Hillary Clinton. Now that Edwards is out, I support Hillary and part of it is YES because she is a woman. To me that is part of change. a woman instead of another man.

I am not ashamed either and I don' give a rat's ass how many names I'll be called for it.

edit: typo

[splat]

5. My daughter was torn between Hillary and Obama

She ended up voting for Hillary, saying she did it in part for her late grandmother and her beloved great-aunts, who never had the chance to vote for a woman president.

[babylonsister]

Got it; her sex trumps all. Not her war vote, or experience,

but her sex. :thumbsup:

[cynatnite]

10. Hmm...you must have missed the part where I said 'partly'...

:eyes:

[DemBones DemBones]

21. If you really are a "sister," I'm surprised you misread the OP so badly.

I'll vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton over McCain, because she's progressive compared to him, but it will be icing on the cake to finally have a woman nominee on a major party ticket.

I look forward to a day when we'll have a black nominee, too, but not Obama.

If BO gets the nomination, I hope Cynthia McKinney is the Green Party nominee so I can vote for her.

I won't vote for BO and it's not because he's a man or because he's a black but because he lacks experience, has lied many times, and is very smug, acting as if he is entitled to the nomination.

[THUNDER HANDS]

7. I love my mom, but i wouldn't vote for her for president

I wouldn't ask her to fix my computer if it was broken, either.

[DemBones DemBones]

18. Your mom's not running is she? Non sequitur.

Your mom may vote for HRC, though.

[nonconformist]

9. I agree. I support her on the issues over Obama, but her being a woman is the icing on the cake.

When I finally get to vote for her, I will feel tremendous pride as a woman. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, just like I don't think there's anything wrong with blacks voting for Obama because he's black. It's completely understandable.

[cynatnite]

13. That's exactly how I feel n/t

[Mags]

36. yeah, yeah. I' m with you.

[Bread and Circus]

11. Well. In the flar flung chance you get to run things....beware of Damocles sword....

[rug]

12. I'm using my penis to pull the lever. She's a better candidate, period.

[lumberjack_jeff]

33. Cool! How do you get it to do that prehensile thing?

I'll bet it comes in handy when tying the ribbons on packages. :)

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. Gender race who the hell cares? How about the most qualified?

When did that fail as a test? I couldn't not care less what race or gender a candidate is. :wtf:

[DemBones DemBones]

23. Clinton is the most qualified. Why is that

it's OK to say it would be awesome to have a black president but wrong to say it will be awesome to have a woman president?

Your sexism is showing, along with your support for Obama, I suspect.

I've voted for white men my entire life so I am glad that we now have a well-qualified woman who will be president, a Democrat who can beat McCain.

I would certainly vote for a black candidate if I thought s/he was the best-qualified.

I'd even vote for a well-qualified white man!

[ExtraGriz]

16. she's the better candidate overall

very detailed oriented, and in my opinion she's way smarter than obama

[Mezzo]

17. There are lots of people who only support each because of their "first" status, and

I think it's unfortunate. I think she wins on substance. He wins on style.

[BlooInBloo]

19. Despite what the "reverse sexism" jackass men and "reverse racism" jackass white folks say...

... there's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to un-tilt the table, so that it becomes even.

[DemBones DemBones]

22. I agree, and it's very telling that nobody at DU ever says

that blacks are just voting for Obama because he's black or criticizes blacks who are supporting him in part or even entirely because he's black.

Women, though, are often assumed to be voting for Clinton just because she's a woman.

The OP is a woman saying that she's proud to be able to vote for Clinton, IN PART because Clinton is a woman, and she's gotten some heat from other posters, who seem to have missed the key words IN PART.

Sexism, and ageism, are accepted prejudices at DU.

[lumberjack_jeff]

30. "Assumed"? You did read the OP, right? n/t

[anonymous171]

26. It's not "reverse"

Sexism simply means discrimination based off of sex.

[lumberjack_jeff]

31. There's no such thing as reverse sexism. It's all one thing.

The type of sexism you and the OP are demonstrating is called misandry.

[Bread and Circus]

20. Great Job! You voted for Hillary Cliton! She will make an awesome President...

with all her awesome programs.

[cynatnite]

24. kicking n/t

[anonymous171]

25. What about "Bloody" Mary and other assorted Queens?

They revolutionized the way their country was run right?

[galadrium]

27. I love how the Hillary supporters constantly flame the Obama supporters for sexism

I'm glad you're not ashamed to admit your sexism.

[lumberjack_jeff]

29. I support Hillary too, but you deserve to "get slammed for this"

I would be too embarassed to admit it if I chose a candidate because they look like me, or were about my age, or drove the same kind of car.

Margaret Thatcher was a woman. Nelson Mandela was a man. Clearly, men haven't had a monopoly on fucking it up.

The main problem with this election is that people across the political spectrum are voting for their candidate because they feel that the candidate is representative of them superficially, without any evidence that the candidate will represent their interests.

[DawgHouse]

32. Interesting. My son says the same thing.

He supports her because of her platform but he also believes that women, in general, make better leaders.

[L0oniX]

34. Oh well then I'll vote for Obama because he isn't a woman. n/t

[dana_b]

35. good! and if people say that they voted for John McCain partly because

he's a man, or even a white man, they shouldn't be deemed racist, sexist or anything else. Just stupid (because he's republican). ;)

[Donna Zen]

37. In my family today and yesterday

My father and mother were very respectful of one another. In retrospect I will say that my mother was prehaps ahead of her time, but she was certainly strong and wonderful. Nevertheless, my parents shared responsibilies without giving it a thought. My father loved my mother because she was smart, and his best friend whether they were dancing on Friday nights, or playing poker; they were best friends. Maybe that's why my husband and I find it very easy to live a fully realized life together.

My father and my husband helped raise kids, clean, cook, and still found time to do "guy" stuff. Both are compassionate and funny. Neither of these men would vote for bush's damaging war, because they are also smart and don't trust people's lives to liars.

As for my mother's identity, did I mention that she was an elected Democrat for 30 years?

Personally I would hope that the goal of a feminist is to reach the point where people are judged by who they are and not by their gender. I count Washington, Lincoln (R) and FDR as people I would proud to vote for. I've been fortunate to work for some excellent men and women, and I've had some female bosses I would wish on the devil. So I'll skip the identity gender politics and continue to use my brain.

[dana_b]

40. Amen!! and I love your last name. n/t

[Donna Zen]

41. Thanks

My screen name is a long story stretching back to Dec. 12th 2000.

Oh, and our house loves Rage Against the Machine.

[mmonk]

39. That's fine. I vote on ideas and the positions and people

(such as Samantha Power) they have in their campaigns. I came to the conclusion to vote for Obama. Everyone has their reasons.